Opinion When marijuana is legalized, societal statistics go to pot - The more studies that are done on the growing of marijuana, the more it is becoming clear legalization of the drug is becoming a major public health crisis.

The more studies that are done on the growing of marijuana, the more it is becoming clear legalization of the drug is becoming a major public health crisis. Controls on marijuana should be not eased but strengthened.

In a December report in the New England Journal of Medicine, Dr. David A. Gorelick and others show that cannabis-related mental health problems are rising rapidly nationwide in conjunction with increasing legalization of the drug. Gorelick reported that almost 20% of those aged 12 and older used marijuana in 2021, with 16 million suffering from “cannabis use disorder,” which is the inability to stop taking the drug even as it causes health and social problems. And almost half of those addicts suffer other mental health illnesses such as anxiety, major depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, hallucinatory delirium, suicidality, or schizophrenia.

Another study released jointly last May by researchers at the U.S. National Institutes of Health and the National Institute on Drug Abuse and Mental Health Services in the Capital Region of Denmark showed that among men aged 21-30, “as many as 30% of cases of schizophrenia among men aged 21-30 might have been prevented by averting cannabis use disorder.” This isn’t just to say that many schizophrenics smoke weed. The study says marijuana use often triggers schizophrenia, which otherwise would not develop at all.

As it was put by Denmark’s study co-author Nora Volkow, “The entanglement of substance use disorders and mental illnesses is a major public health issue, requiring urgent action and support for people who need it.” And the problem is worse now than ever because today’s street marijuana typically has a far higher potency than that commonly used 50 years ago.

Indeed, the December study shows that marijuana use is responsible for 10% of all drug-related emergency room visits in the U.S. And among those aged 18-25, an astonishing 14% use marijuana at problematic levels. And cannabis use leads to a 30%-40% rise in the risk of car crashes. This coincides with a 2021 study of motor vehicle statistics showing that “the percentage of fatalities involving cannabis and coinvolving cannabis and alcohol doubled from 2000 to 2018.”

Other recent studies, all of them by entirely reputable outlets, have shown that heavy marijuana use often can cause permanent brain damage, that legalization has actually increased the vast illicit market for the drug and a rise in criminal violence, and that it really does serve as a gateway to higher opioid use and mortality. Even at the genetic level, marijuana use can be measurably dangerous.

Marijuana is far from the nearly harmless substance that popular culture believes it is. Its deleterious health effects are numerous, serious, and indisputable.

That’s why, except for extremely targeted, limited use under a doctor’s supervision to treat adverse effects of dreaded ailments such as cancer, marijuana should be illegal at both state and federal levels. And while alternative sentencing can be a worthwhile idea for minor users, marijuana offenses definitely should be prosecuted. Its heavy use or sale, moreover, should be criminally punished.

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>still grasping to the muh gateway drug theory


So basically tl;dr obvious teetotaler is mad that pot is legal; nobody asked for their opinion.

Either smoke weed or don't. Some of us get legitimate relief from using it - the alternative for me is becoming yet another SSRI zombie. I know that (((they))) would prefer I did that instead, but fuck that and fuck them.
 
How do you smoke weed without tobacco?
I was curious about this and it turns out this just doesn't seem to be something people do in North America. Probably one of the reasons why the debate about this seems to be more partisan over there, much less overlap in userbase between the two substances.
 
I was curious about this and it turns out this just doesn't seem to be something people do in North America. Probably one of the reasons why the debate about this seems to be more partisan over there, much less overlap in userbase between the two substances.
I wonder if hitting bongs or smoking straight weed from a crack-pipe has a different effect on people, or if the strains have to be different due to the nature of consumption?

It may explain why the eternal stoner seems to be an epidemic in America, vs Europe. Though the Americans are genetically predisposed to retardation, so that may play a part as well.
 
Weed these days is crazy strong compared to the nineties. "Back in the day" it was harder to get and was dry, filled with seeds and stems, chiseled off a brick smuggled from Mexico. In the past 15-20 yrs especially its become incredibly potent. And there's all this weed stuff now, not just a joint or a bowl. There's gummies, vaporizers, dabs, oils, infused candy, etc. And it's just EVERYWHERE! (It's akin to porn now that i think about it. It's gotten more and more extreme and niche over the years and easier to access.)
I've seen with my own eyes people go mental after a couple years of non stop weed smoking and fuck their lives up.
The weed available today can definitely act as the environmental trigger for someone predisposed to mental conditions.
I've always been anti-legalisation, not for this reason but because fuck the government.
 
Fascinating. Now let's see the articles on prescribed pharmaceuticals and how they ravaged rural america enriching the people and company who made them in the process.
This article could cancel out anything legal by calling it bad. They could make this article on alcohol, tobacco, fuckin ATV 4x4s or single engine planes if they wanted. Hell they could claim water causes death, therefore its dangerous. you might drink too much! PUT DOWN THE NUTMEG, IT COULD KILL YOU!
careful, that thing could kill you, so you should go to jail for doing it.
I was curious about this and it turns out this just doesn't seem to be something people do in North America. Probably one of the reasons why the debate about this seems to be more partisan over there, much less overlap in userbase between the two substances.
Its called a Spliff, but pot smokers who don't smoke tobacco don't do it.
 
I'm not defending them, but I have to wonder how much of the original marijuana plant even exists anymore. I remember people reading High Times magazine and there being articles about chemists and shit doing gene manipulation or something like that to not just breed a better plant but other stuff as well; and part of me wonders, how much of these people fucking around with the plants is part of what's causing more severe issues with the addicts. I knew hippies who lived through the 1960's and 1970's, and sure they were annoying, but they also seemed somewhat more competent than the younger generations who just want to blaze 24/7 and can't fucking tie their shoes. Though I'm also certain another part of it is weed being laced with God knows what, since people are more likely to buy from their usual dealer than the state licensed dispensiaries.


I'm not defending the FBI in any manner; but being an arcade rat back in the day, this had a stronger influence on me when I was young and impressionable than the D.A.R.E. program did. If anyone doesn't know; this splash screen was required on every commercially released arcade game from the late 1980's to the late 1990's or so. It did it's job for me at least, can't speak for anyone else.
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Back in the 60's the strongest weed strains rarely exceeded 5% of THC content now it's 15-20%. Over the decades we engineered seedless super weed a lot of people cannot stomach at all.
 
Medical cannabis should be legal. Recreational should be illegal but largely unenforced.
I'm not sure I understand the logic behind this stance. If a drug is illegal, then it ought to be because having that drug freely available would have a deleterious effect on society as a whole. In other words, if you have a strong enough reason to keep a drug illegal then you're at the point where there's no reason not to take the Rodrigo Duterte approach and stamp it out wherever it appears. Society would be slightly better if we took this approach with drugs like Fentanyl rather than protecting their right to shoot up in playgrounds.

Cannabis and other drugs of comparable risk (psilocybin, for example), should only have the same restrictions on it as tobacco and alcohol - free for anyone to buy and use either medicinally or recreationally for anyone over 18 (or 21 if you're a yank, I guess). Penalties against hard drugs like cocaine and heroin should be more harshly and proactively enforced than they are now. Having a grey area of legality, where most drugs are still illegal but enforcement is loose and spotty just seems like the worst of all worlds to me, and blurs the lines between soft and hard drugs.
 
So basically tl;dr obvious teetotaler is mad that pot is legal; nobody asked for their opinion.
About the only thing I agree with this on is the way California has done it is absolutely disastrous, which has a lot to do with the fact that California also has declared itself a "sanctuary" for cartel members and illegal aliens in general, so amazingly their state parks and wilderness in general has turned into a free fire zone where you get shot or killed by booby traps for being in the wrong place.

Never mind the strain to the power grid when you have whole towns that have been taken over by both legal and illegal grow operations such that there are parts where half the "houses" are just weed houses.
 
Sounds like something a pill pusher would say. Why is there still diabetes, because the pills are cheap and sell for a lot, why is there still cancer because the economy around cancer treatment makes too much money. Even if the study has a modicum of truth, it is absolutely sullied forever. Science has chosen activism and should never be trusted when it is being reported on.
 
I wouldn't think it would be a gateway drug if it's legal, its one thing to go from weed to heroin when they are both illegal, but when one is legal its a far far jump to the other. I will say the weed today is way more powerful then the weed from when I was a kid for whatever thats worth
 
I'm not sure I understand the logic behind this stance. If a drug is illegal, then it ought to be because having that drug freely available would have a deleterious effect on society as a whole. In other words, if you have a strong enough reason to keep a drug illegal then you're at the point where there's no reason not to take the Rodrigo Duterte approach and stamp it out wherever it appears. Society would be slightly better if we took this approach with drugs like Fentanyl rather than protecting their right to shoot up in playgrounds.

Cannabis and other drugs of comparable risk (psilocybin, for example), should only have the same restrictions on it as tobacco and alcohol - free for anyone to buy and use either medicinally or recreationally for anyone over 18 (or 21 if you're a yank, I guess). Penalties against hard drugs like cocaine and heroin should be more harshly and proactively enforced than they are now. Having a grey area of legality, where most drugs are still illegal but enforcement is loose and spotty just seems like the worst of all worlds to me, and blurs the lines between soft and hard drugs.
The point is that it should still have a bit of taboo attached to it, something people do in private, but someone shouldn't have their life ruined for experimenting with pot in colleege.
 
Smoke a blunt and ride a dirtbike through the woods, bitches. Smoke a bowl and build a deck, fuckers. The boozehounds and pillheads I know are all in therapy and constantly broke. My group of smokers own businesses, are buying/building/refurbishing houses, dirtbikes, a god damned $40k kubota tractor plus a new trailer to tow it "because I can use it maintain my track AND for work, bro! Priorities!"

That said, I'm also certain that my group is not representative of our demographic, because other fuckign smokers, man... Fuck them. The worst thing about smoking is other smokers, because the shitty, loud, lazy "420 BLAZEIT!!!1!" kids give us a bad name. What about white people who still have a work ethic and smoke? You never hear about us. We smoke a bowl and say stupid shit, too. We say shit like "Do you think we could bang out this job by 3 so we can go ride?"

Booze has been fuckin up lives for millenia. Why should alcohol get to have all the fun? Especially since all the drunks I know are miserable fucks, and smokers I spend my time with actually do shit and enjoy life.

/spergmode off
 
The point is that it should still have a bit of taboo attached to it, something people do in private, but someone shouldn't have their life ruined for experimenting with pot in colleege.
I would argue we should do the exact opposite and make it as boring and uncool as possible by removing any associated taboo. Kids don't want to do it anymore when it's something their parents and grandparents do, remove any appeal it might have as a "forbidden fruit". If the same legal restrictions apply to it as currently apply to cigarettes (i.e you can't smoke it in indoor public venues like bars and restaurants, you can't smoke it around children, etc.) then this would be enough to curtail concerns about second-hand exposure.
 
This is just another blatant fear mongering article but it reminded me how ever since weed was "legalized" a few years back there's been a predictable rise in obnoxious"quirky" corporate ads that censor the word cannaibis like it's a swear word and a bunch of chain smoke shops dedicated solely to weed shit showing up everywhere nearby me. Basically the situation has predictably become the kinda thing people were worried was gonna happen if it got legalized. IIRC it's still illegal for people to grow their own which is fucking stupid if I'm remembering right because people have been doing that for decades both before and after it got banned forever ago. I'm also sick of the worst of reddit/twitter types now that it's legal start acting like they're so cool and subversive and commie or whatever the fuck for smoking it because of course everything ties back into fucking stupid politics clout games now. I want out of this fake ass world that's been forming for real.
The point is that it should still have a bit of taboo attached to it, something people do in private, but someone shouldn't have their life ruined for experimenting with pot in colleege.
The "taboo" shit is the sole reason it became extremely fucking marketed after legalization. I don't know about college but back in High School well over a decade ago now the way you got into weed was if you knew a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy that knew how to grow and prep weed; Usually from either internet info, or someone older that did it before them that they knew personally. Through casual interactions it usually eventually became clear that the "taboo" was just utter bullshit and the actual thing was just an extremely mundane legalese red tape trap. Unless someone tried sending the cops on you, nobody fucking cared and viewed it as a mild nuisance at best due to the fucking weed smell. Weirdly never smoked it myself despite interacting with a lot of guys that did. Knowing my shit luck it's probably for the best but not due to it potentially fucking me up mentally or anything.

Smoke a blunt and ride a dirtbike through the woods, bitches. Smoke a bowl and build a deck, fuckers. The boozehounds and pillheads I know are all in therapy and constantly broke. My group of smokers own businesses, are buying/building/refurbishing houses, dirtbikes, a god damned $40k kubota tractor plus a new trailer to tow it "because I can use it maintain my track AND for work, bro! Priorities!"

That said, I'm also certain that my group is not representative of our demographic, because other fuckign smokers, man... Fuck them. The worst thing about smoking is other smokers, because the shitty, loud, lazy "420 BLAZEIT!!!1!" kids give us a bad name. What about white people who still have a work ethic and smoke? You never hear about us. We smoke a bowl and say stupid shit, too. We say shit like "Do you think we could bang out this job by 3 so we can go ride?"

Booze has been fuckin up lives for millenia. Why should alcohol get to have all the fun? Especially since all the drunks I know are miserable fucks, and smokers I spend my time with actually do shit and enjoy life.

/spergmode off
I agree with almost everything but the implication of 420 being lame because it's the trifecta day of Weed, Hitler's birthday, And mother 3's original release. Oh and that mass shooting too though that was less funny. The people right now on social media though hyping up weed? as I said before in this post I absolutely can't fucking stand those guys.
 
I agree with almost everything but the implication of 420 being lame because it's the trifecta day of Weed, Hitler's birthday, And mother 3's original release. Oh and that mass shooting too though that was less funny. The people right now on social media though hyping up weed? as I said before in this post I absolutely can't fucking stand those guys.
I'm rapidly approaching 40, and it really just seems like dumb edgelord shit. Has for over a decade. I got shit to do, I don't care or need an excuse for my libations.
 
I brought this up in the rekeita thread but for me personally I've soured on THC in general. I still think that, at least for myself, it is a better alternative to drinking but man it makes me a lazy nigger that just wants to sit in front of my computer, eat cheetos, and play various rougelike games from my steam library. Good times for my early 20s I guess trying to de-stress from everything I did in college but to be avoided now in my late 20s.
 
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