What do we do with failsons and faildaughters? - With a link to a different thread on preventing bad parenting.

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Edit: While you can create punishments for bad parents, preventing it is ideal. Talk about how to prevent bad parenting and promote good parenting here. This is about what to do with the end product of mostly good parenting but the child is a fuck up.

If you do as much as you can right and by the grace of God your child comes out as a pants on head pretentious retard, irresponsible retard, apathetic lazy retard, or other flavor of choosing not to be a functional human being, what should be done with them?

Back in the day Brits sent their family embarrassments overseas to colonies and former colonies. What should be done with modern dipshits?

Edit: Parents are human, so it's as much as they can within reason. I'm talking about mostly decent to good parenting by humans with flaws, as all parents are. See this post for elaboration.

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Beelzebub's Lawyer dijo:
What constitutes "as much as you can"?
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"As much as you can" means you tried as much as you, the person, possibly could. Some people weren't meant to parent. They can have a separate thread where we discuss what to do with those lazy neglectful retards.

But some parents true and honest tried as much as they could, but their child developed free will and decided to be a lazy asshole on their own. Maybe the kid got into a bad friend group when 16-18 and the parent tried to get them out, but the kid insisted on seeing their friends. Maybe the kid got into drugs at 19 purely by...
 
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What constitutes "as much as you can"?
You clearly fucked up somewhere if your child is "a pants on head pretentious retard, irresponsible retard, apathetic lazy retard, or other flavor of choosing not to be a functional human being", you're just not willing to admit it.
 
NoCockatrice dijo:
If your child is at that state you already lost
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Of course. But what do you DO with them? Are they going to be a burden on the state or on you, the parent? Are they going to troon out and you encourage it as a subtle ploy to get them to cut you off or kill themselves?

Personally, I think it depends on the failchild. Sending all art school graduates/dropouts who have nothing to offer on a boat then sinking it might work.
 
Beelzebub's Lawyer dijo:
What constitutes "as much as you can"?
You clearly fucked up somewhere if your child is "a pants on head pretentious retard, irresponsible retard, apathetic lazy retard, or other flavor of choosing not to be a functional human being", you're just not willing to admit it.
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Oh, come on. Parents don't get magical mind control of their children. There's only so much they can do, especially past a certain age. Sometimes parents do the best they can and the kid still turns out fucked up.

I mean, my parents were honest, hardworking people.
 
AMHOLIO dijo:
Of course. But what do you DO with them? Are they going to be a burden on the state or on you, the parent? Are they going to troon out and you encourage it as a subtle ploy to get them to cut you off or kill themselves?

Personally, I think it depends on the failchild. Sending all art school graduates/dropouts who have nothing to offer on a boat then sinking it might work.
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send them somewhere where they'll need to work physically, like a mine or something

then they'll understand the worth of money and labor, which is a good start
 
Lord of the Large Pants dijo:
Oh, come on. Parents don't get magical mind control of their children. There's only so much they can do, especially past a certain age. Sometimes parents do the best they can and the kid still turns out fucked up.
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There is definitely an element of neglect somewhere in there if a child turns out a failure who doesn't even want to improve.
Lord of the Large Pants dijo:
I mean, my parents were honest, hardworking people.
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Do you consider yourself a failure?
And if you do, have your parents relegated your upbringing to a screen of some sort?
 
Beelzebub's Lawyer dijo:
What constitutes "as much as you can"?
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"As much as you can" means you tried as much as you, the person, possibly could. Some people weren't meant to parent. They can have a separate thread where we discuss what to do with those lazy neglectful retards.

But some parents true and honest tried as much as they could, but their child developed free will and decided to be a lazy asshole on their own. Maybe the kid got into a bad friend group when 16-18 and the parent tried to get them out, but the kid insisted on seeing their friends. Maybe the kid got into drugs at 19 purely by their own choices and not because their parents encouraged it, and dropped out of college because dude lmao drugs. Maybe the child is autistic and got a stupid idea in their head they will never let go of, so nothing will keep them from doing shit. Maybe your kid just has a genetic temperment diceroll that either ends up as a personality disorder or as a complete asshole by choice.

Bad children turned bad adults don't occur in a vacuum, but can you say every mistake was due to the parent failing to raise them properly? I'm not talking ghetto kids or generations of shitty human beings kids, I'm talking failures of being that kind of human.
 
Beelzebub's Lawyer dijo:
There is definitely an element of neglect somewhere in there if a child turns out a failure who doesn't even want to improve.
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Make your own thread for what to do with fail parents. This is specifically for children who had decent enough parents (as no parent is perfect) who fuck up and stay fuck ups out of their own choice. If a child doesn't improve once out of the nest, because humans can choose to do that, then what do we do with those.

You can be spoiled and then realize you need to straighten the fuck up and clean your college dorm once you live on your own after enjoying days old dishes. You can be whiny and self pitying, but snap out of it with the help of friends or your own self. Your parents influenced a ton in your life, but people develop free will and can't just wallow in their own misery once their parents are out of their lives.
 
Have you considered that in some areas things got so bad that there really isn't a future for the next generation, and as such some young adults just give up? I assume we're talking about White people here, as most other demographics are a net burden on the state - as you mentioned that as what I assume to be a factor determining failure of life or not. At the end of the day I think a lot of the failure you see can be chalked up to hopelessness. My friend died to an overdose when we were 13, sold to him by some Asian shitskin. A couple of my friends had siblings getting addicted, taking their own lives, etc. These people are 'failures' not due to their parents who didn't abuse them, worked to support them, but instead by the Government who decided to make the area I was born majority foreign. A lot of people moved - like my family - but it's hard seeing this stuff as a child, having your parents move you, and then see it happen elsewhere. My family moved me to the other side of the Earth. Now I see it happening in Australia. In an environment so cruel what does failure matter - and what can the parents best efforts do? I'm sure some of my dole mates would jump at the opportunity to be sent to undiscovered lands in order to build better lives for themselves without the overbearing weight of an overreaching Government to regulate every minor aspect of their lives while at the same time letting foreigners get away with everything. Where are you from and how old are you?
 
This better not be a subliminal diss on BossMan, because he's a successful streamer who makes over $600k a year and owns clean shoes and a $2k chair.

Unfortunately, the military frequently won't want this kind of failure because they've got something objectively wrong with them. Failures tend to collect mental diagnoses and/or legal incidents that recruiters may have a hard time working through. Also, the service is a temporary solution. Maybe they get right? Maybe they get blowed up? Probably they just come back home, with some new BS baggage, after a couple years.
 
Sign them up for the military, duh. Who wouldn't trust some broccoli headed, mumbling retard with a Colt M4 and a package of m67 grenades? I know I would, especially amongst our friends and greatest ally.
 
A one and only rebel child
From a family meek and mild,
My mama seemed to know what lay in store...
Despite all my Sunday learnin'
Towards the bad I kept on turnin',
'Til mama couldn't hold me anymore.

And I turned twenty-one in prison, doing life without parole!
No one could steer me right, but mama tried! Mama tried!
Mama tried to raise me better, but her pleading I denied!
That leaves only me to blame, 'cause mama tried.
 
95% of how a child turns out is down to parenting. Here's two tips to ensure they turn out right if you're doing everything else correctly:
1) don't let them watch anime
2) don't let them go to college/university
 
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