Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

[Vingle]

I'm obviously not going to change your mind, but not everyone is a perfect human specimen such as yourself and needs a little help to get their feet off the ground correctly.

Not saying I'm that either, but I'm not trusting people I have to pay just to get to help me. For information I easily get for free.
Never asked for help either, someone in the other thread wanted to see my routine and I just wrote it up. The more advanced lifters here doesn't say much about it, and honestly. I view frequent users of PT's as beginners, so of course I'm not going to listen to you.

And injuries heal, and you learn from it.

Edit: Not the guy deadlifting. As floors in gyms should be designed to stand against being deadlifted at. It's not like platforms are free all the time.
My gym only has one platform and I refuse to use it, as there is always people pestering me about when I'm done deadlifting.
@Ahriman

 

[Ahriman]

Not saying I'm that either, but I'm not trusting people I have to pay just to get to help me. For information I easily get for free.
Never asked for help either, someone in the other thread wanted to see my routine and I just wrote it up. The more advanced lifters here doesn't say much about it, and honestly. I view frequent users of PT's as beginners, so of course I'm not going to listen to you.

And injuries heal, and you learn from it.

Edit: Not the guy deadlifting. As floors in gyms should be designed to stand against being deadlifted at. It's not like platforms are free all the time.
My gym only has one platform and I refuse to use it, as there is always people pestering me about when I'm done deadlifting.

I get your point, but at the same time, we are not a PT's target audience. We are a lot more invested in fitness so we are willing to put in the work, and do the research for ourselves.

For someone like my normie mom who can't be bothered to watch AthleanX videos and needs things to be explained to her nice and slow, then a PT would work. Those are their bread and butter.

I'd say it's 50-50 between the hapa not doing a slow and controlled descent and slamming the weight, and the other karen busting his balls over nothing.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PeV3pMbf97c
Who was in the wrong here?

Everyone involved in this is a faggot. - The Gook, for wearing a mask and slamming his weights down for attention. - The old man who complained, for being a complaining old man. - The other dude, for taking sides. - The gym, for not having a properly set up deadlifting pad (or at least some spare rubber floor tiles that can be moved around to wherever they are needed).

 

[Vingle]

I'd say it's 50-50 between the hapa not doing a slow and controlled descent and slamming the weight, and the other karen busting his balls over nothing.

True, I would say an important part of the exercise is to do an slow and controlled descent. If you can't do that, then it's too heavy and just ego-lifting.

But the others deserve a beating for being such insufferable fags.

 

[Ahriman]

Also, look at his arched back... oof.

See, this guy could really use a PT who could tell him right there, "stop what you're doing; not only you're using too much weight, you're doing it wrong and risking an injury."

 

[Vingle]

Also, look at his arched back... oof.

See, this guy could really use a PT who could tell him right there, "stop what you're doing; not only you're using too much weight, you're doing it wrong and risking an injury."

Yea, reason for why I don't lift as heavy on deadlift. I'm more aware about pushing my core and having a straight back.

But I see why someone could need a PT. But it's about pride and not being helpless + PT sessions are expensive. Not everyone can afford it, or see the worth.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I said we should keep it in the thread, but nobody wants to comment on my routine.

I thought the terrible dieting/training advice merited some sharing.

Regarding PTs, it is both my opinion and experience that if you don't shit gold you'll find mostly hacks and dangerous scammers.

And if you do, there is a real risk you'll still find those, but more expensive.

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PeV3pMbf97c
Who was in the wrong here?

So glad I have access to weights and machines without having to go to a gym and deal with this bullshit.
This is exactly the kind of shit that makes people not want to work out.

 

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

400 lb front squat is respectable. I suggest including front squat volume on at least one of your lower days during the week. Get to sets of 20 @ 225. It's absolutely worth the investment.

My opinion of enhanced lifting is if one wishes to partake, it's best if they follow that obsessively to their particular zenith. Think of someone like Serge Nubret. If you want to reach that level, gear is worth it. If not and you don't need it for a medical reason, I'd say stay away from it. It is powerful stuff, it can definitely push you well beyond what most can achieve if you're not fucking retarded and lazy, but it has costs you'll likely hate.

Another recommendation that I can tell you for certain is worth it: include Anderson squats regularly in your training. Truly excellent for pushing your 1RM past sticking points. When I say regularly, I mean something like every 8 weeks. Not only are they a valuable conjugation of your normal training, they're a solid diagnostic tool for your 1RM.

My programming is primarily weightlifting oriented, so frontsquat reps beyond five are pretty rare. I can only imagine the suffering one might endure doing 20x100kg, unless of course you're trolling.

In related news, earlier tonight I did the 'pig squat' made famous by Olympic weightlifter Milko Tokola. Start at 20x20 (bar) then 19x30, 18x40, etc, until you hit 210kg for a single. I managed to get to 1 rep of 200kg before dying. I applaud anyone who has ran that hell to completion.

 

[Dean Pentel]

My programming is primarily weightlifting oriented, so frontsquat reps beyond five are pretty rare. I can only imagine the suffering one might endure doing 20x100kg, unless of course you're trolling.

In related news, earlier tonight I did the 'pig squat' made famous by Olympic weightlifter Milko Tokola. Start at 20x20 (bar) then 19x30, 18x40, etc, until you hit 210kg for a single. I managed to get to 1 rep of 200kg before dying. I applaud anyone who has ran that hell to completion.

Not at all trolling. Working up to a set of at least 20 at 102.5 was a goal for me, and I think it should be for any lifter of intermediate experience. This is especially true for both powerlifting and weightlifting. It'd be a harder sell for bodybuilding.

I don't know how long you have been lifting. I've been at this just under 10 years, and I have discovered that the human body is capable of so much more than I'd been told. I train 7 days a week, 2 of those days being max effort, and I've been doing this for almost a year.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

I've realized that, as my training and theories around it develops, I've essentially just gone further and further back in time.
If you look at any program you would find today, most of the time it's nonsense science-meme exercises.
High rep and intense squats build tree trunk legs, pullups and rows build barn-door backs, curls and extensions with large roms build arms, bench press and deep flies build the chest, so on and so forth. Everything else is essentially refining the details of your training but the basics have worked since we invented barbells.
That's what I've noticed, anyways.

 

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

Not at all trolling. Working up to a set of at least 20 at 102.5 was a goal for me, and I think it should be for any lifter of intermediate experience. This is especially true for both powerlifting and weightlifting. It'd be a harder sell for bodybuilding.

I don't know how long you have been lifting. I've been at this just under 10 years, and I have discovered that the human body is capable of so much more than I'd been told. I train 7 days a week, 2 of those days being max effort, and I've been doing this for almost a year.

Man, I might just give it a shot soon. Currently not chasing any numbers, so it's time to get wild.

Been lifting for 3 years come March, about 18 months dedicated strength training. I'm a big cunt though, so my numbers aren't as impressive as they'd seem.

Also, 7 days? Bruh. I do 6 usually, off on Sundays.

 

[Rupin]

Everyone involved in this is a faggot. - The Gook, for wearing a mask and slamming his weights down for attention. - The old man who complained, for being a complaining old man. - The other dude, for taking sides. - The gym, for not having a properly set up deadlifting pad (or at least some spare rubber floor tiles that can be moved around to wherever they are needed).

Shit like this is why I go to the gym after 12 at night. So I don’t have to deal with assholes like them.

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

Gains continue. Still limiting my cardio due to rampant hunger if I go too crazy with it.

 

[anustart76]

I finally broke through my dumbbell press plateau and was able to lift the higher weights today. I feel pretty good about it.

 

[Harambe]

I hit 3 plates at squat the other day! My bench has been lagging with some minor wrist and forearm pain and some palpable tightness and swelling above and beyond a pump in the muscle that runs on the outside of the ulna. Went to the doctor today, have wrist tendonitis. They want me to avoid weight lifting for about 3 weeks, which really sucks. Worried about my gains now.

Anyone have any advice for this kind of problem? My weightlifting buddy is continuing to make progress so it's really, really frustrating to see him excel where I'm falling short. I know it's not actually a contest, but I've keeping at parity with him, within 5kg of one RM and outdoing him on a couple of back-centric lifts. Wondering how I can mitigate this L my shitty tendons are dealing to me. Should I try machines and stuff to mitigate any load on my wrist?

 

[Rupin]

I hit 3 plates at squat the other day! My bench has been lagging with some minor wrist and forearm pain and some palpable tightness and swelling above and beyond a pump in the muscle that runs on the outside of the ulna. Went to the doctor today, have wrist tendonitis. They want me to avoid weight lifting for about 3 weeks, which really sucks. Worried about my gains now.

Anyone have any advice for this kind of problem? My weightlifting buddy is continuing to make progress so it's really, really frustrating to see him excel where I'm falling short. I know it's not actually a contest, but I've keeping at parity with him, within 5kg of one RM and outdoing him on a couple of back-centric lifts. Wondering how I can mitigate this L my shitty tendons are dealing to me. Should I try machines and stuff to mitigate any load on my wrist?

I had a similar problem with my wrist. I like to calistetic stuff like pull ups, daimond push ups and planches. I‘m fairly certain I got it from a failed close grip bench press. Anyways, the problem lasted a couple months and I dealt with it by going light with my exercises and trying new stuff that wouldn’t cause pain to my wrist until my problem went away.

I never went to a doctor for my problem so I don’t know if it was wrist tendinitis or just a bad sprain. But it sounds similar to what you have and that‘s what worked for me. Don‘t worry about what your buddy does, focus on your healing and stay safe. You can always catch up to him later.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

I hit 3 plates at squat the other day! My bench has been lagging with some minor wrist and forearm pain and some palpable tightness and swelling above and beyond a pump in the muscle that runs on the outside of the ulna. Went to the doctor today, have wrist tendonitis. They want me to avoid weight lifting for about 3 weeks, which really sucks. Worried about my gains now.

Anyone have any advice for this kind of problem? My weightlifting buddy is continuing to make progress so it's really, really frustrating to see him excel where I'm falling short. I know it's not actually a contest, but I've keeping at parity with him, within 5kg of one RM and outdoing him on a couple of back-centric lifts. Wondering how I can mitigate this L my shitty tendons are dealing to me. Should I try machines and stuff to mitigate any load on my wrist?

I have found that this advice can apply to a decent amount of arm tendon issues:

Basically, grab light dumbbells and do really light wrist curls and reverse wrist curls a couple times throughout the week during workouts. This does a few things, it balances those muscles out and gets blood into the area. It works well for me, but you would probably want to ask your doctor or someone for advice since they can actually diagnose you in person.

 

[anustart76]

I have found that this advice can apply to a decent amount of arm tendon issues:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cllThHcjYRcBasically, grab light dumbbells and do really light wrist curls and reverse wrist curls a couple times throughout the week during workouts. This does a few things, it balances those muscles out and gets blood into the area. It works well for me, but you would probably want to ask your doctor or someone for advice since they can actually diagnose you in person.

My doctor keeps telling me to stop lifting entirely and just do cardio.

I'm not a woman, damn it.

 

[Vingle]

My doctor keeps telling me to stop lifting entirely and just do cardio.

I'm not a woman, damn it.

I guess it's a general practitioner, and they are a half-assed excuse of a doctor.. I don't know who you need to be referred to, but someone in this thread probably knows.