Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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I guess it's a general practitioner, and they are a half-assed excuse of a doctor.. I don't know who you need to be referred to, but someone in this thread probably knows.
He is a GP and the best one in town. He just thinks lifting is "dangerous" and wants me to lose weight more than gain muscle. I otherwise generally like him.
 
He is a GP and the best one in town. He just thinks lifting is "dangerous" and wants me to lose weight more than gain muscle. I otherwise generally like him.
Don't got any advice unfortunately, I'm not well-versed in the horror of the Murican healthcare system.
 
@anustart76 Docs in general are shit and are more concerned about selling drugs and retaining patients through controlling diagnoses' rather than helping them. You'll have to find a doc that actually knows what the fuck they are talking about but the whole medical industry is infested with midwit people trying to justify their degree and ego.

If he says lifting is dangerous then run, don't walk. The guy isn't informed and doesn't want to be. You are wasting your time and money.

As an aside, here's a fun article talking about statistical errors in meta-analysis that all of the science based youtubers/influencers like Nipples like to lean on.

85% have at least one significant error.
 
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Ditch that quack and find a doctor who lifts. Ask at your local powerlifting gym.
@anustart76 Docs in general are shit and are more concerned about selling drugs and retaining patients through controlling diagnoses' rather than helping them. You'll have to find a doc that actually knows what the fuck they are talking about but the whole medical industry is infested with midwit people trying to justify their degree and ego.

If he says lifting is dangerous then run, don't walk. The guy isn't informed and doesn't want to be. You are wasting your time and money.

As an aside, here's a fun article talking about statistical errors in meta-analysis that all of the science based youtubers/influencers like Nipples like to lean on.

85% have at least one significant error.
He's not a quack or anything, he's just afraid I'll drop the weights on myself or something like that. He's a family friend, and I've known him since I was a kid, which is probably why he's telling me that; he still thinks of me as a clumsy kid.

Semi-related, I think I overdid it and was only able to do one set today before my elbow started hurting. How long can I skip that exercise to let the joint recover before atrophy and I lose those gains?
 
I can't get into proper starting position for deadlifts without back rounding. Decades of computer time have fucked up my body. Feels bad.
Use lower weight, try doing Romanian Deadlifts, and focus on driving the weight through the back of your heels. Also a lifting belt might help. Sorry about your back fren, take it easy. You can do it 👍
 
I think I overdid it and was only able to do one set today before my elbow started hurting. How long can I skip that exercise to let the joint recover before atrophy and I lose those gains?
Recovery time varies individually. You may find you can simply vary the movement without further aggravating the elbow e.g. with dumbbell shoulder presses, try turning the dumbbells 90 degrees within the horizontal plane, so they are parallel to the sides of your head rather than at right angles.
I also use and recommend neoprene compression sleeves.
 
He's not a quack or anything, he's just afraid I'll drop the weights on myself or something like that. He's a family friend, and I've known him since I was a kid, which is probably why he's telling me that; he still thinks of me as a clumsy kid.

Semi-related, I think I overdid it and was only able to do one set today before my elbow started hurting. How long can I skip that exercise to let the joint recover before atrophy and I lose those gains?
Take a week off from that movement and focus on other things or do one light work set (50% 1 RM). I had tendonitis in my upper shoulder/bicep and it worked for me.

Didn't mean to come across as overly harsh regarding your doc but I and people around me have had bad luck with most GPs. A friend I know broke her foot and the doc literally didn't do anything or prescribe anything other than Ibprofun. No cast, no therapy, no nothing. She had to go to her friend who was a physical therapist to get actual advice and buy a walking boot with her own money. You'd think going to a doc and getting back advice like "yeah that sucks, oh well, now pay me" would be unacceptable but here we are. Same thing with "don't do that thing that makes you hurt anymore".

I get all of my info from a fat Texan anyways. Here is his podcast talking about docs

In other news I'm about to hit 1300lbs total for my big 3 lifts (Squat, Bench, Deadlift), so that's exciting.
 
I can't get into proper starting position for deadlifts without back rounding. Decades of computer time have fucked up my body. Feels bad.
what cues are you using when you get into position? like what are the little thoughts you use to stress the mind muscle connections?
 
Take a week off from that movement and focus on other things or do one light work set (50% 1 RM). I had tendonitis in my upper shoulder/bicep and it worked for me.

Didn't mean to come across as overly harsh regarding your doc but I and people around me have had bad luck with most GPs. A friend I know broke her foot and the doc literally didn't do anything or prescribe anything other than Ibprofun. No cast, no therapy, no nothing. She had to go to her friend who was a physical therapist to get actual advice and buy a walking boot with her own money. You'd think going to a doc and getting back advice like "yeah that sucks, oh well, now pay me" would be unacceptable but here we are. Same thing with "don't do that thing that makes you hurt anymore".

I get all of my info from a fat Texan anyways. Here is his podcast talking about docs

In other news I'm about to hit 1300lbs total for my big 3 lifts (Squat, Bench, Deadlift), so that's exciting.
GPs are extremely hit-or-miss. Not to sperg out about the medical industry, but the fact is that your best bet is an older or immigrant GP because here in America being a GP sucks, so older doctors advise students not to pick that and instead specialize in something, so the younger GPs are the ones who couldn't hack it in a specialty. The older guys and immigrants chose to be there so they know what they're doing. Tack on the way the modern healthcare industry is run, with all the regulations and profit-focus of corporate healthcare providers, even if your doctor wants to help you, he's stuck trying to run you through as fast as possible and spending most of that time doing paperwork lest the business retards get upset.
 
I can't get into proper starting position for deadlifts without back rounding. Decades of computer time have fucked up my body. Feels bad.
You don't have to lift all the way from the floor. Try, for example, laying a couple of plates stacked on top of each other at either end of the barbell, with the barbell plates resting on them. This will raise the starting position of the barbell.
 
My doctor keeps telling me to stop lifting entirely and just do cardio.

I'm not a woman, damn it.
I am not a healthcare provider so I am not trying to offer medical advice.

Some life advice I can offer is this: start lifting seriously and never give it up until you physically can't do it anymore.

I've said this before a number of times here but I'll repeat it ad nauseum: getting physically stronger and more capable is among the best thing any human being can do with their lives. Not only does it make you much harder to kill by basically any means, it makes you more mentally efficient, more hormonally balanced (lots of good things come from that), and more psychologically secure. It's not going to fix you, per se, but it gives folks a much better platform from which to change their lives.

Most importantly, it's satisfying on a very basic, primal level. Sex, love, money, new stuff, none of that even comes close to how good it feels to get stronger. The only thing that is on a similar level is destroying an opponent in a fight, and doing so very obviously.

One last thing fellow KF lifters: make sure your recovery is solid. In my experience, successful lifting is about 30% lifting and 70% recovery. Make sure your sleep is as good as it can get, stay hydrated, and do not neglect mobility work/stretching.
 
One last thing fellow KF lifters: make sure your recovery is solid. In my experience, successful lifting is about 30% lifting and 70% recovery. Make sure your sleep is as good as it can get, stay hydrated, and do not neglect mobility work/stretching.

Changing lifestyle habits to attain goals seems to be harder than the actual lifting.
 
Not at all trolling. Working up to a set of at least 20 at 102.5 was a goal for me, and I think it should be for any lifter of intermediate experience. This is especially true for both powerlifting and weightlifting. It'd be a harder sell for bodybuilding.

I don't know how long you have been lifting. I've been at this just under 10 years, and I have discovered that the human body is capable of so much more than I'd been told. I train 7 days a week, 2 of those days being max effort, and I've been doing this for almost a year.
So I did 100kg for 20 earlier tonight, it was playing on my mind since you mentioned it. My strategy was to take a 150kg single, then go back down so it felt light.

Did it, but that single set was easily the most disgusting set I've ever done- worse than the pig squat I mentioned previously. Last few reps required some immense mental fortitude, god damn.

I'm not sure whether to thank you or tell you to get fucked lol
 
Been lazy this week so did back to back sessions today so I could restart my week with a clean slate and not be lagging on days.

A real I want to die moment. My last round of sprints was true pain.
 
Anyone take caesin? I am working on figuring out a digestive health issue and just got casein powder to rule it out. Have you had any negative or different effects compared to whey aside from, allegedly, slower gains? Do any of you use it as a meal replacement?
 
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