Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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I hit what were effectively my lifelong squat goals last month, never thought I'd get them after only 2.5 years of training. 182kg front squat, 227kg backsquat - 400 and 500lbs respectively.

Focus at the moment is divided equally between working toward a 600kg total, and putting more work into the snatch and clean and jerk. When I hit the former I'll probably give up on chasing numbers (at least for the deadlift and bench,) and probably adopt weightlifting programming full time.

The longterm goal for the latter is a 120kg snatch and 140kg clean and jerk. The strength is there, I just need the technique. Maybe then I'll consider competing.
400 lb front squat is respectable. I suggest including front squat volume on at least one of your lower days during the week. Get to sets of 20 @ 225. It's absolutely worth the investment.
If you hop on the chemical Jew, best case scenario you cycle off and loose every bit of mass you gained, completely wasting your time, or worst case scenario you shut down your own hormone production, making you dependent on pharmaceutical industry for the rest of your life, lest you have testosterone of an old man and feel miserable. Also really gay and weak considering what you can achieve with good old fashioned autism and your natural, God-given body.
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My opinion of enhanced lifting is if one wishes to partake, it's best if they follow that obsessively to their particular zenith. Think of someone like Serge Nubret. If you want to reach that level, gear is worth it. If not and you don't need it for a medical reason, I'd say stay away from it. It is powerful stuff, it can definitely push you well beyond what most can achieve if you're not fucking retarded and lazy, but it has costs you'll likely hate.
Well, if you read up on the history of the Silver and especially Bronze Eras, they weren't purely bodybuilders as we think of them today. Many circus strongmen, Olympic lifters, wrestlers, gymnasts, what would eventually be called powerlifters, the majority of them were athletes from a ton of different worlds who took pride in their physique. Then we can see the evolution of what an ideal physique was through time, and at the end of the day it's subjective and heavily influenced by the current culture.
One of my idols who I try and base my physique goals on is John Grimek. That is a Herculean physique if I've ever seen one, with massive arms, a wide and thick back, and perfect proportions it was just a work of art. Not to mention his monstrous strength. And while there are some rumors the US Government tested out some PEDs on him to see if they could get a leg up on Russia, he was almost certainly natural for the vast majority of his career.
But if you want to learn about an absolute legend, Paul Anderson AKA The Mightiest Minister was probably one of the strongest pure natural men to have ever lived. And he did all his training in his backyard with shit he found in a junkyard. He was also, as you may have guessed, a minister. He was the ideal of a Christian man by all accounts, you can find his sermons online today, and his youth home is still up and running. Even if you aren't religious, the man is respectable.
Man, I'm such a nerd for this history.
Another recommendation that I can tell you for certain is worth it: include Anderson squats regularly in your training. Truly excellent for pushing your 1RM past sticking points. When I say regularly, I mean something like every 8 weeks. Not only are they a valuable conjugation of your normal training, they're a solid diagnostic tool for your 1RM.
 
400 lb front squat is respectable. I suggest including front squat volume on at least one of your lower days during the week. Get to sets of 20 @ 225. It's absolutely worth the investment.

My opinion of enhanced lifting is if one wishes to partake, it's best if they follow that obsessively to their particular zenith. Think of someone like Serge Nubret. If you want to reach that level, gear is worth it. If not and you don't need it for a medical reason, I'd say stay away from it. It is powerful stuff, it can definitely push you well beyond what most can achieve if you're not fucking retarded and lazy, but it has costs you'll likely hate.

Another recommendation that I can tell you for certain is worth it: include Anderson squats regularly in your training. Truly excellent for pushing your 1RM past sticking points. When I say regularly, I mean something like every 8 weeks. Not only are they a valuable conjugation of your normal training, they're a solid diagnostic tool for your 1RM.
Oh I know all about Anderson squats.
They are magnificent, even in a growth context they are great. Those squats are nasty, absolutely no momentum or bounce at the bottom. You just have to muscle it up from a hard position, no wonder Anderson was such a monster.
 
Did my first 300 lbs deadlift tonight at the gym. I’m pretty stoked about that. I’ve been working up to that bitch for months.
 
Today when I was doing one armed pullups my scapula awkwardly went into retraction (didn't feel secure, only partial). Think I've got a slight rounding of the shoulder on that side. What's the best pec minor release or stretch in your opinion so I can get my shoulder to sit back?
If you have the space I like to lay down on a bench and rotate the minor pec while holding a 10-15lb dumbbell. There’s also the classic doorway stretch.
 
rotate the minor pec while holding a 10-15lb
I'll give it a try, pec minor feels tight as could be as it moves up on the shoulder. Fear mild calcification of the tendon might have started. Still have decent motion, but dreaded "pop grind" happened a few months back. Appreciate the input.

I continue to make gains and lose fat but one of the biggest problems is how fucking hungry I am all the time. Suggestions appreciated.
Welcome to why it's not sustainable. Even professionals have to find a plateau or give up on a competition cycle because it will drive you insane.
If you want to stay natty.
Water intake: Fills stomach up, reduces inflammation/stress
Purposeful calorie burning: Burn extra calories so you can ingest another meal. Example, walk for a few minutes so you can eat a clementine. Therefore adding food to your digestive system and curbing some of the hormones involved in hunger.
Mindfulness "idle hands": keep yourself busy, stay upbeat, but don't allow your focus to drift too far from whatever you're engaged in. Keep you stress low, most cuts are broken by stress.
Understand you will have to recalculate your macros(calories) and there is nothing wrong with doing this. If you feel that hungry, you should take a quick moment to address if you are cutting too much too quickly. Adding an extra 100 calories back into your diet, but ensuring you're not breaking your goal is better than dropping it all.
The not natty route (at your own risk).
>stimulants
>hormones
>esoteric soul bounding
 
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>spending 12k a month to look like a 40k dwarf
If he didn't live in a resort i would legit be mad
This sounds like a good way to die from a heart attack.
see Gigachad's post
horrors of supplement usage is insane.
I'm running l-citrulline, l-carnitine (three variations), nac, pomegranate extract, k2, vitamin d and cialis. that's just my vasodilation spread.
Wanna be more than the average human you have to start doing things the average human won't do.
 
I'd never heard of Liver King.
It took about five minutes of Googling to know this goofball was using roids.
How could people believe in this guy?
 
Here's a question. I used to have a pretty good regime until I started working night shift. I'm not fat or overweight, but I can feel it (I'm a manlet, a little weight change is noticeable) these shifts doing nothing for my health. What would you guys recommend for losing weight and exercising in between these crappy shifts? I can do a little whilst working and a bit when I'm awake.
 
I can't get into proper starting position for deadlifts without back rounding. Decades of computer time have fucked up my body. Feels bad.
Several things I do:
1. warm up with some back extension/hinge type movement. Banded Good-Mornings, back extensions, reverse hypers have served me well. They also have the side effect of warming up most of the prime movers
2. engage the lats. think about trying to hold a pen in the back of your armpit
3. Unless you brace proper your back is gonna round the instant the weight leaves the ground. I use the Pallof press for this
4. Hip mobility might be causing the issue. Try elephant walks, i also use a piriformis stretch, my legs in 4-shaped formation and me trying to push my torso into it. You could also "cope" by using a wider stance, or better yet, sumo deadlifts
5. remove the slack from the bar before pulling it
I know it sounds like a lot, but eventually you'll get used to it. I used to tick off a checklist in my head like some stereotypical scene from a movie where theyre starting up a bunch of tech
 
I can't get into proper starting position for deadlifts without back rounding. Decades of computer time have fucked up my body. Feels bad.
I recommend deadlifts other than standard barbell. I injured my back one day and it took a couple weeks to recover. Dumbbell, hex bar, different variations such as romanian split dumbbell. There are also other exercises that work your back like pull ups and farmer walks.
 
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