Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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Jasper2K dijo:
If anyone wants to build their leg strength fast try doing light-moderate Romanian dead lifts after squats, maybe even super set them if you can. Enjoy not being able to sit down for few days :)
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just did this today (what a coincidence!) and yeah wow indeed.. my grip strength was suffering too LOL but totally worth it
also im loving the ammount of posts on female bodybuilders :) and i dont know much about male bodybuilders but my favorite is steve reeves
absolutely agree with disliking the bbl cardio bunny instagram bodytype. a well developed upper body looks soo good and balanced on women, especially because usually the hips emphasize the v taper look so well. plus training upper body is so fun. i dont think i could ditch it...

what is you guys' opinion on the push pull legs split for beginners? :\
 
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I hit what were effectively my lifelong squat goals last month, never thought I'd get them after only 2.5 years of training. 182kg front squat, 227kg backsquat - 400 and 500lbs respectively.

Focus at the moment is divided equally between working toward a 600kg total, and putting more work into the snatch and clean and jerk. When I hit the former I'll probably give up on chasing numbers (at least for the deadlift and bench,) and probably adopt weightlifting programming full time.

The longterm goal for the latter is a 120kg snatch and 140kg clean and jerk. The strength is there, I just need the technique. Maybe then I'll consider competing.
 
Shidoen dijo:
Any advice on how to get some great workouts in preparation for the marines?
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Their training is focused on endurance more than anything, so other than running 5 miles a day, maybe do light weights with lots of reps. Work on your pull-ups, too.
It doesn't really matter what you do, the Corps will break you down and build you back up.
Probably the most important thing is to understand you are voluntarily joining a group whose members treat military service like a cult.
 
Flavius Claudius Julianus dijo:
I hit what were effectively my lifelong squat goals last month, never thought I'd get them after only 2.5 years of training. 182kg front squat, 227kg backsquat - 400 and 500lbs respectively.

Focus at the moment is divided equally between working toward a 600kg total, and putting more work into the snatch and clean and jerk. When I hit the former I'll probably give up on chasing numbers (at least for the deadlift and bench,) and probably adopt weightlifting programming full time.

The longterm goal for the latter is a 120kg snatch and 140kg clean and jerk. The strength is there, I just need the technique. Maybe then I'll consider competing.
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Your numbers are already high enough you should compete just for the experience. You don't get better at something by not doing it. The technique will come but for Olympic lifting it's been said not to try and PR at the meet.

I've found that since signing up my training and progress have gotten significantly better since there is a target in the distance now. I've been training for it seriously around 5 months and am rapidly hitting and exceeding PRs weekly. Just do it.
 
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Ewan McGregor dijo:
Roids. Lots and lots of roids.
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If you hop on the chemical Jew, best case scenario you cycle off and loose every bit of mass you gained, completely wasting your time, or worst case scenario you shut down your own hormone production, making you dependent on pharmaceutical industry for the rest of your life, lest you have testosterone of an old man and feel miserable. Also really gay and weak considering what you can achieve with good old fashioned autism and your natural, God-given body.
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ITK dijo:
If you hop on the chemical Jew, best case scenario you cycle off and loose every bit of mass you gained, completely wasting your time, or worst case scenario you shut down your own hormone production, making you dependent on pharmaceutical industry for the rest of your life, lest you have testosterone of an old man and feel miserable. Also really gay and weak considering what you can achieve with good old fashioned autism and your natural, God-given body.
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It's why I am a huge fan of the Silver Era. Those dudes were physical perfection and all they really had were barbells, dumbbells, and maybe cables if they went to a fancy gym. I've been off gear for almost half a year now and yeah I'm smaller and weaker but it's worth it and you don't need it to be jacked and look great.
 
ITK dijo:
If you hop on the chemical Jew, best case scenario you cycle off and loose every bit of mass you gained, completely wasting your time, or worst case scenario you shut down your own hormone production, making you dependent on pharmaceutical industry for the rest of your life, lest you have testosterone of an old man and feel miserable. Also really gay and weak considering what you can achieve with good old fashioned autism and your natural, God-given body.
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All the Noble Natty channels have amazing physiques. It's really sad that PED users have corrupted the lifting industry into a dichotomy of natties as only big from genetics or forever small. Natural lifters need good role models like the noble natties.
Also Bald Omni Man. Dude's a fucking vascular tree trunk. Awesome advice and sick physique.
 
VeteranOfTheRetardWars dijo:
It's why I am a huge fan of the Silver Era. Those dudes were physical perfection and all they really had were barbells, dumbbells, and maybe cables if they went to a fancy gym. I've been off gear for almost half a year now and yeah I'm smaller and weaker but it's worth it and you don't need it to be jacked and look great.
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Silver Era physiques are beautiful. Usually people like Steve Reeves from that era are praised for having beautiful physiques but so many of the pre-gear physiques are great. Especially when you go further back to the 1890s-1920s you see these people that are built like greek gods. Something interesting that also parallels to the Greek comparison, a lot of the very early bodybuilders had physiques similar to greek statues, where the V taper was less of a focus and instead they were built like a tree trunk of muscle. I've heard some people say this could be because of the lack of a lot of pressing movements, but I am unsure about that.
Also I heard that Steve Reeves snuck a barbell into his barracks and hid it under his bunk while he was fighting in the war.
 
Dr. Crittershawn dijo:
Silver Era physiques are beautiful. Usually people like Steve Reeves from that era are praised for having beautiful physiques but so many of the pre-gear physiques are great. Especially when you go further back to the 1890s-1920s you see these people that are built like greek gods. Something interesting that also parallels to the Greek comparison, a lot of the very early bodybuilders had physiques similar to greek statues, where the V taper was less of a focus and instead they were built like a tree trunk of muscle. I've heard some people say this could be because of the lack of a lot of pressing movements, but I am unsure about that.
Also I heard that Steve Reeves snuck a barbell into his barracks and hid it under his bunk while he was fighting in the war.
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Well, if you read up on the history of the Silver and especially Bronze Eras, they weren't purely bodybuilders as we think of them today. Many circus strongmen, Olympic lifters, wrestlers, gymnasts, what would eventually be called powerlifters, the majority of them were athletes from a ton of different worlds who took pride in their physique. Then we can see the evolution of what an ideal physique was through time, and at the end of the day it's subjective and heavily influenced by the current culture.
One of my idols who I try and base my physique goals on is John Grimek. That is a Herculean physique if I've ever seen one, with massive arms, a wide and thick back, and perfect proportions it was just a work of art. Not to mention his monstrous strength. And while there are some rumors the US Government tested out some PEDs on him to see if they could get a leg up on Russia, he was almost certainly natural for the vast majority of his career.
But if you want to learn about an absolute legend, Paul Anderson AKA The Mightiest Minister was probably one of the strongest pure natural men to have ever lived. And he did all his training in his backyard with shit he found in a junkyard. He was also, as you may have guessed, a minister. He was the ideal of a Christian man by all accounts, you can find his sermons online today, and his youth home is still up and running. Even if you aren't religious, the man is respectable.
Man, I'm such a nerd for this history.
 
Not sure if this is just a me problem. I feel like o am looking really puffy recently. What's the deal? Loose skin is an issue for me since I dropped 30kgs quite rapidly (under a year and a half) but I've been in the 50kg-60kg for a solid 12 months now.

Last few days while training I have noticed I look puffy, harder to see my muscles, etc. What's going on here? Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? Being a woman I understand water retention and hormones around the monthly can be a factor but this feels like a lot.

Admittedly I have been a bit more lax on eating but it's still way less treats/bad food than the regular human being.
 
CharcoalChkn dijo:
Not sure if this is just a me problem. I feel like o am looking really puffy recently. What's the deal? Loose skin is an issue for me since I dropped 30kgs quite rapidly (under a year and a half) but I've been in the 50kg-60kg for a solid 12 months now.

Last few days while training I have noticed I look puffy, harder to see my muscles, etc. What's going on here? Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? Being a woman I understand water retention and hormones around the monthly can be a factor but this feels like a lot.

Admittedly I have been a bit more lax on eating but it's still way less treats/bad food than the regular human being.
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It could be general inflammation from exercise, a reaction to supplements, your diet, or any number of things. Check and see how you look after a rest day and see if you look any different.
 
ITK dijo:
If you hop on the chemical Jew, best case scenario you cycle off and loose every bit of mass you gained, completely wasting your time, or worst case scenario you shut down your own hormone production, making you dependent on pharmaceutical industry for the rest of your life, lest you have testosterone of an old man and feel miserable. Also really gay and weak considering what you can achieve with good old fashioned autism and your natural, God-given body.
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Occasionally I've been tempted

But I've seen enough of what it does to people, and how emasculated, sad and angry broken men they all eventually become.

So I don't let the apparently healthy, unscathed cases fool me
 
So, after training for about 2 years on machines and calisthenics only (shitty gym, i know) i finally got a membership at a gym with barbells. Been working at it for 2 months or so now.

Current numbers are at
squat 120kgx3
bench 85kgx5
deadlift 140kgx2
Lat Pulldown 120kgx2

Not really impressive, and shambolic compared to what ive done with machines (Ive done 300kgx5 on leg press, 97.5kgx5 on a chest press machine) but still much better than when i started on barbells. Probably because when everything goes in a fixed path it doesnt really train you to stabilize for shit...

Anyone else have a horrendous dropoff between machines and barbells? I also notice a drop between barbells and dumbbells
 
Today when I was doing one armed pullups my scapula awkwardly went into retraction (didn't feel secure, only partial). Think I've got a slight rounding of the shoulder on that side. What's the best pec minor release or stretch in your opinion so I can get my shoulder to sit back?
 
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