Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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What a timely video I started with hyper extensions this week and really didn't feel like it was hitting my ass, this helped heaps. Thanks for sharing!
Np fren/frenette.

While you're at it, check out the Brazilian trainer Carol Vaz, she's training chicks, Tom Platz-style.... meaning, she will absolutely murder your legs and ass.







Now THAT's how you get a world-class dump truck butt.

 
This is now a female bodybuilding thread (?)

Frenettes, look no further than Anja Langer and Denise Rutkowski for inspiration, they were the true GOATs of female bodybuilding in the '80s.

I'd also say they were the last "feminine bodybuilders" because you can still see it in their faces that they weren't doing enough gear to lose their features. They looked swole as hell, but also retained their feminine figure.





I imagine some of you are definitely not looking to get that kind of physique but at least, from a male standpoint, I can tell you that they looked fantastic while not looking completely like a tranny.

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Love this pic of her, she looks so good.
 
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This is now a female bodybuilding thread (?)

Frenettes, look no further than Anja Langer and Denise Rutkowski for inspiration, they were the true GOATs of female bodybuilding in the '80s.

I'd also say they were the last "feminine bodybuilders" because you can still see it in their faces that they weren't doing enough gear to lose their features. They looked swole as hell, but also retained their feminine figure.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=06EUAzUpoEc
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-BTL2EqzaCU
https://youtube.com/watch?v=i5L45r31sRk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1S-sESY7k
I imagine some of you are definitely not looking to get that kind of physique but at least, from a male standpoint, I can tell you that they looked fantastic while not looking completely like a tranny.

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Love this pic of her, she looks so good.
Shout out to the first Ms. Olympia, Rachel McLish.
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I don't know about her advice or anything, but for lady inspo I really like how LeanBeefPatty looks, very muscular but still very feminine. Though I think she just won the genetic lottery as well in terms of body structure.

The ladys posted above look awesome, I do hope to have maybe a few levels below that some day, I really hate the modern gym bunny/insta booty look, it's so gross. If I'm working out I want to look athletic, not have a giant bubble ass.
 
He IS on gear.
Yep.

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Anterior deltoids are excessively large, as are traps. I've seen a few other pics that show he has low scale steroid gut, like Jay Cutler if Jay used 1/4 the amount of steroids.
It's incredible that so many people do not know what steroid use looks like, and believe The Rock is all natural and owes his physique solely to training and diet.

@Vingle
Because he isn't all veiny and shit, from what I associate with being on gear.
You are conflating vascularity with steroid use. The two often go hand in hand but steroid use does not cause vascularity: just look at the world of Strong Men for evidence - most of them are using PEDs but are not very vascular.

Alan Ritchson, season 1 of Reacher:
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Probably not using steroids.

Alan Ritchson, season 2 of Reacher:

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Definitely using steroids.
 
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and believe The Rock is all natural and owes his physique solely to training and diet.
On the other side of the coin, it pisses me off to no end when people think taking roids is an overnight solution and they just wake up jacked the next day, I don't think it's wise what people like Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman put their bodies through - but I respect how hard they must work/the discipline it takes to achieve that in such a small time, even with the use of steroids.
 
Personally, I think people have way too low of expectations of what a natural can do. Whether or not Jeff is natty, I believe his physique is achievable naturally if you grind for years and years and dial your shit in.
Why I hate fake natties is because they just made everyone into cynics who think that anyone who doesn't look like he's made out of spaghetti is on grams of shit.
The reason we strive for that level is because it's not easy, if it was as easy as being obese everyone would be jacked.
 
On the other side of the coin, it pisses me off to no end when people think taking roids is an overnight solution and they just wake up jacked the next day
Yes, it is true that PEDs users actually have to work harder than everyone else. I've been around those people for much of my adult life and have seen what the high level competitors put themselves through. Not worth it, IMO.
 
I don't think Jeff's body is natty achievable. Natty Jeff would look substantially different, I think.

However, I hate fitness influencers first and foremost because they LIE. They are ALL on roids.

I'm not going SJW in terms of the whole "perpetuate an irreal body shape" and shit but they're basically selling a fraudulent product. They are all about how they're the poster child for what is achievable with good training and diet when that's not truth.

Like, I don't judge them for taking roids. People are indeed misinformed, they believe roids will get you a huge body almost instantly or with little effort and that's not true. You not only have to train as if you were not on roids, but you need to carefully plan your dosage of the roid, the antiroid and all the paraphernalia because a mistake can have dire consequences for your health - I mean, even more dire consequences for your health.

It is another entire sphere of discipline and commitment. However, for people who won't do roids for whatever reason and look for inspiration they are told, explicitly and implicitly, that they can get that body with DIET, HARD WORK and ALGORITHMS and EQUATIONS and BIOMECHANICS and that if they didn't it naturally follows that they've failed to do things properly or are too lazy or lack commitment when they're omitting a crucial point.

Like, fuck you, bitch. Liar. Asshole.

I wish there were more natty athletes people could look for inspiration but admittedly natty athletes look unimpressive compared to the likes of Nipples or fagface or the other Jeff (What's with Jeffs in this thing?). Especially when on a picture.

Also, they all throw a hissy fit when they're pointed their bullshit not because they are ashamed or they fear being judged or they fear the police. What they all fear is their typically young, impressionable, noob audiences to realize they're sold a fraudulent product and that the results may wildly vary and fly away.

And they need them because they all lead a lifestyle that needs copious amounts of money to keep -Even though they actually lead fairly boring, un-exciting, even miserable lives- and none of them work. You cannot work a 9 to 5 job on megacorp, let alone a wagie job, and lead this sort of life with this sort of commitment. They can only be influencers and whores, which they are, all of them.

They all sell their asses to be fucked by disgusting oil millionaire arab cunts, then post the pictures of their paid trips to luxury hotels on Instagram and TikTok to give the impression they do lead glamorous, high end lives.

Bitch, do you think I haven't noticed 90% of your luxury pictures are in fucking Dubai's tacky landscape or in some boring ass bleak nearby desert? Why is it that you rarely post pictures of France, or Spain, or Italy, or Japan, or the Maldives or the Caribbean or any of the places where people with money that are not whores actually would go, as opposed to horrible spiral city in hellhole desert?.
 
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they all lead a lifestyle that needs copious amounts of money to keep -Even though they actually lead fairly boring, un-exciting, even miserable lives- and none of them work. You cannot work a 9 to 5 job on megacorp, let alone a wagie job, and lead this sort of life with this sort of commitment. They can only be influencers and whores, which they are, all of them.

They all sell their asses to be fucked by disgusting oil millionaire arab cunts, then post the pictures of their paid trips to luxury hotels on Instagram and TikTok to give the impression they do lead glamorous, high end lives.
This is almost 100% true. I know, like, two successful (as in, competition winning) fitness models who have not prostituted themselves to keep up the façade. They work as trainers and do a great job. They don't make a fortune but their work is at least honest.
But 99.99% of Instagram "Fitness Models" are nothing more than prosti-thots.
 
Aw, joey nips isn't natty? That's a shame. He's still got helpful videos I guess. My manlet gym buddy really idolizes him

Hit the gym today after deloading for a week and focusing on cardio, abs, and just doing my main lifts at low volume with 50% max weight. My shoulder was all shitty on the bench and me and my gym buddy were just exhausted, and he had a lat strain.

Downside, my lifts went down a bit. My squat today, struggled to get 115kg for 1 rep, which is down from my high of 130kg. I'll get em next week I guess, strength will return with a bit more practice. Still on track to hit 1/2/3/4 by end of January. Won't let an off day keep me down.

Plus, on the upside, a week of consistent cardio and core work has me feeling confident in general, and I'm down to 100kg today, so that was a nice treat. At 90kg should be looking pretty fit as long as I keep it up in the gym. For my birthday I should be at 90kg, which will be a nice present for myself.
 
I don't know about her advice or anything, but for lady inspo I really like how LeanBeefPatty looks, very muscular but still very feminine. Though I think she just won the genetic lottery as well in terms of body structure.

The ladys posted above look awesome, I do hope to have maybe a few levels below that some day, I really hate the modern gym bunny/insta booty look, it's so gross. If I'm working out I want to look athletic, not have a giant bubble ass.
Check out @smashleysvendbye on IG, she's a bit on the flat side but still looks pretty good and can move plenty of weight.
 
Yes, it's disgusting. Only subhumans and Brazilians (but I repeat myself) find that shit attractive.
Since it's apparently a truth that all male fitness influencers are on gear. Then the female ones are getting Brazilian Butt Lifts.
They look weird and gross because their bodies are unbalanced. I think dudes that only seem to work their upper body and have skinny legs are gross too.
 
Alright so I’ve been cutting out exercise except walking my dog because of some irl bullshit. Any advice on how to get some great workouts in preparation for the marines? Idgaf about the political structure anymore I just need to escape.
 
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