Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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So it's been a couple months and my weight hasn't changed. I'm still in the 147 pound range. I think I know the reason why though. I started taking bulking shakes, but outside of that my dieting habits remained unchanged (I am a light eater on most days). As such, I think the bulking shakes are helping me maintain weight instead of gaining it. I also only take them after working out so that probably isn't helping. My job also requires me to be on my feet for 6-8 hours, and I can't eat as much as I would like on those days. I am considering doing the full shake instead of the half shakes I've been taking, just to see if that improves anything.

Not saying that it's all bad or anything because I am significantly more toned than I was a couple months ago and I do feel good in that area. It's just with how skinny I am there's only so much toning can really do.
 
stronglift 5x5 is good starting regimen. simple instructions and you get pushing pretty good weight. before you start (if start from first time) you should do 4x10s on the same lifts at least for form practice and muscle growth.
 
stronglift 5x5 is good starting regimen. simple instructions and you get pushing pretty good weight. before you start (if start from first time) you should do 4x10s on the same lifts at least for form practice and muscle growth.

My biggest issue with SL and SS is the lack of deadlift volume. SL has you squatting literally 10 times as much as you deadlift. Once I started treating the deadlift like any other lift, instead of something that would snap my back if I wasn’t gingerly enough with it, I got much stronger in very little time.
 
My biggest issue with SL and SS is the lack of deadlift volume. SL has you squatting literally 10 times as much as you deadlift. Once I started treating the deadlift like any other lift, instead of something that would snap my back if I wasn’t gingerly enough with it, I got much stronger in very little time.
deadlift is interesting lift. need to be careful, of back, but not as dangerous as a lot of people say. yes, can (should) increase weight past 1x5 of absolute max; dl should be heaviest lift. conventional/jefferson are great, zercher should be paired with squats.
 
you wear belt on squat and dl?

Depends on the weight. I’ve been doing 531-based programs and will usually only wear a belt for the heaviest sets (at least 85% of training max). I find it beneficial to wear one for the press as well.

Currently I’m using a 3” belt, which is an inch smaller than the standard and makes it easier to get into position for the deadlift. For all the questionable shit Mark Rippetoe says, he was right on the money with this advice and I’m surprised it hasn’t caught on more widely.
 
Depends on the weight. I’ve been doing 531-based programs and will usually only wear a belt for the heaviest sets (at least 85% of training max). I find it beneficial to wear one for the press as well.

Currently I’m using a 3” belt, which is an inch smaller than the standard and makes it easier to get into position for the deadlift. For all the questionable shit Mark Rippetoe says, he was right on the money with this advice and I’m surprised it hasn’t caught on more widely.
I did 531 like 5 years ago. It's pretty solid but I hated that even if I felt off that day I still had to do the program and then if I didn't hit the lifts, I had to go back down. I moved to hybrid of PPL
 
I did 531 like 5 years ago. It's pretty solid but I hated that even if I felt off that day I still had to do the program and then if I didn't hit the lifts, I had to go back down. I moved to hybrid of PPL

Yeah, it’s somewhat rigid once the training max is set. I will probably give RPE-based programming a shot at some point when I trust my own judgment more.
 
If anyone has some nice tips for getting over DOMs faster I am all ears.

After a 3 month break (Covid was still keeping me imprisoned in my country) I started training again on Sunday - I started out with legs, but I am still feeling so sore 4 days after, I don't know if I've ever had this much trouble recovering, but the soreness/stiffness is affecting the quality I have been able execute my other workouts, notably during some back exercises last night was having some issues bracing myself/holding a good stance.
 
If anyone has some nice tips for getting over DOMs faster I am all ears.

After a 3 month break (Covid was still keeping me imprisoned in my country) I started training again on Sunday - I started out with legs, but I am still feeling so sore 4 days after, I don't know if I've ever had this much trouble recovering, but the soreness/stiffness is affecting the quality I have been able execute my other workouts, notably during some back exercises last night was having some issues bracing myself/holding a good stance.
In my experience, the best way to conquer DOMS is to at minimum warm-up every day, then do a lighter workout if necessary. I find that my DOMS is usually worse after a break if I sit around doing "nothing" while resting.

Also, not sure if it's related to this thread or not, but 2018 Mr. Olympia Shawn Rhoden passed away at 46 of a suspected heart attack. Human body simply isn't meant to be 300 pounds of pure muscle, especially with the regiments these guys are on.
 
Also, not sure if it's related to this thread or not, but 2018 Mr. Olympia Shawn Rhoden passed away at 46 of a suspected heart attack. Human body simply isn't meant to be 300 pounds of pure muscle, especially with the regiments these guys are on.
Yeah, the amount of drugs those guys are on is insane. When Dallas McCarver died, his autopsy results of his test levels revealed he was on 10-15g of test per week. For reference, a standard, moderate steroid cycle is 500 mg/week, 1g/week is considered pretty high and anything above that is considered serious competitive bodybuilder level. 10-15g/week is just an inhuman amount that's gonna fuck your shit up bad.
 
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how to gain weight?
 
I think in January I might switch from training each muscle group with 5 gym days to push/pull/leg for 6 gym days. I know I'm gaining muscle, but I can't help but feel it's not as efficient as it should be and the two break days bother me. What are your guys opinions.
 
If anyone has some nice tips for getting over DOMs faster I am all ears.

After a 3 month break (Covid was still keeping me imprisoned in my country) I started training again on Sunday - I started out with legs, but I am still feeling so sore 4 days after, I don't know if I've ever had this much trouble recovering, but the soreness/stiffness is affecting the quality I have been able execute my other workouts, notably during some back exercises last night was having some issues bracing myself/holding a good stance.
3 things help for DOMS.
1) Go do more lifting. No, I'm not kidding. It doesn't have to be intensity driven, but get some volume in.
2) Make sure your recovery is on point. By this I mean sleep, hydration, and nutrition. I can't emphasize how important this is enough.
3) Do mobility work regularly. I reiterate this because I learned first hand just how valuable it is. You don't need hours per day or anything, just do some daily post training session. DOMS aren't going anywhere, but all the above will help.

Try it and see for yourself. Also, get to fucking work, goddamnit. How are you guys not moving 3X BW on squat and deadlift if you've been lifting for years already?
 
I think in January I might switch from training each muscle group with 5 gym days to push/pull/leg for 6 gym days. I know I'm gaining muscle, but I can't help but feel it's not as efficient as it should be and the two break days bother me. What are your guys opinions.
6 days of PPL is gonna kill your recovery if you're doing significant volume. I used to do 2 on, 1 off for PPL then rotate through. It worked awesome but now my schedule doesn't allow me to do that so I am stuck to 4-5 days a week
 
6 days of PPL is gonna kill your recovery if you're doing significant volume. I used to do 2 on, 1 off for PPL then rotate through. It worked awesome but now my schedule doesn't allow me to do that so I am stuck to 4-5 days a week
I forgot to ask about doing strength training for the first PPL and then do hypertrophy for the second PPL. Would I get the best of both worlds or should I stick with one or the other?
 
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