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Kinda ironic that despite how much the Imperium is depicted as totalitarian, it's in practice incredibly stratified.
The Admech would have probably been annexed if either the Emperor or Malcador survived the heresy. But post heresy things were way too dire to risk another civil war.
The imperium/setting as a whole is what it needs to be in any given moment in order to tell a story, no more no less. Basic events are codified and stuck to, like the great rift or heresy, but even that can be tweaked to fit a narrative to a certain extent.
The imperium/setting as a whole is what it needs to be in any given moment in order to tell a story, no more no less. Basic events are codified and stuck to, like the great rift or heresy, but even that can be tweaked to fit a narrative to a certain extent.
Another important thing about the skitarii legions is that the Mechanicus was/is a mini empire existing within the imperium. They cooperate, but the mechanicus gets up to stuff that they don't tell the wider imperium about. The guard defends and acts in the interest of imperial worlds but the skitarii only take orders from the forge worlds.
Fair enough, but considering that everything is shared to some degree, the AM shouldn't have that much secrecy, but details. More worrying IMO is how they went from being annihilated by the Necrons, to more or less keep up with the Newcrons.
The OP ancient race that annihilated the Old Ones.
There's a reason the Eagle on the Imperiums flag is two headed, it's supposed to represent the union between Earth and Mars. With Mars being an equal partner in that union.
Sadly, the AM newest Codex stated that the Emprah forced the AM to join the Imperium at gunpoint, lest the Imperium uses diplomacy for once. Even though the old lore stated that the Mechanicus took the Emprah as an avatar of their divinity.
It's very feudal and the government system will depend on the planet. There are agri-worlds that don't have to worry about war 24/7, for one. There's probably a bunch of hive-worlds that aren't death-traps, but these aren't featured.
I thought she was some big name in the industry? Whys she need a kickstarter for a movie?
Either way I'm tired of seeing stuff about Cavill and Warhammer. Shit or get off the pot.
Fair enough, but considering that everything is shared to some degree, the AM shouldn't have that much secrecy, but details. More worrying IMO is how they went from being annihilated by the Necrons, to more or less keep up with the Newcrons.
The OP ancient race that annihilated the Old Ones.
Because of the newcrons or oldcrons had a fraction of the power they did at the time of the war in heaven, there wouldn't be anything that could actually stop them within the universe of 40k. So they're too busy infighting to be that much of a threat. The same goes for tyranids actually using their brains and setting up the same dormancy that got them from the empty void between galaxies to the galaxy the setting takes place in, the same reason chaos can't work together, and so on.
Sadly, the AM newest Codex stated that the Emprah forced the AM to join the Imperium at gunpoint, lest the Imperium uses diplomacy for once. Even though the old lore stated that the Mechanicus took the Emprah as an avatar of their divinity.
The latest codex doesn't even mention the cult joining the imperium other than just pointing out that they did. The complaint was about getting dragged into the bullshit due to Horus and the resulting schism within the cult itself. The current lore is still that it was the martians(at least the loyalists stuck on terra) that literally held the imperial senate at gunpoint to make them into an adeptus rather than just continue with the prior treaties, and had a warlord titan threaten to crush the building they were held captive in unless they voted to approve it.
I thought she was some big name in the industry? Whys she need a kickstarter for a movie?
Either way I'm tired of seeing stuff about Cavill and Warhammer. Shit or get off the pot.
No, her biggest thing was critical role via geek and sundry, but they only got as big as they did once her involvement ended. To regain her "hot nerd queen" crown, she wants to do a kickstarter for another movie of her old self insert "the guild" bullshit that got her some e-fame in the first place.
Ended up winning against Custodes by one point and then lost to Tyranids because they're bullshit with cheap monsters that have insane invulns and hit on like 2s. Faggot wiped two whole squads of boys turn one because I was an idiot and didn't Waagh turn one to give my boys +5 invulns since I was using Warhorde.
Called the dude a faggot not just because I'm salty but also because he had the lisp and I'm pretty sure he was gay.
Ended up losing my final match to Necrons due to time and because the judge basically said "end the game on your final round we aren't going to hypothetically play out the last two rounds to see who wins" which I guess is fair, I don't actually know what's standard for tournaments but my opponent even said that I would have won if we were allowed to keep playing.
So despite narrowing down the options for where to find mom. Our hero's have no idea where exactly the planet Pastoria or the empiror's seat is. So they go down to yet another hive shithole hive to find someone that can help them out.
This nice insane Pskyer woman who almostly certainly dabbles in the dark arts and keeps an army of giant pet spiders (wonder if that's a thing in tabletop) . Yeah sure she'll help! for the low low price of your soul!
Get this, Zelia volunteers to get her life force sucked out and everybody reluantly lets this shit happen. She starts aging rapidly. And only when the hag gives them the coordinates do the gang back out and stop the ritual.
But Not before Zeila is aged out to look like an old woman .
They escape and the effects are (mostly) temporary out of hag range, but man that was darkly funny shit.
The planet is in largely unexplored and dorment space for some reason, but everybody's hyped anyway to finally find POC mom. Ape decides to build some tech for the kids, but instead of giving them actual weapons he fashions non lethal webshooters out of digi rings so the kids can pretend to be 40k spiderman.
.... moving on
They find the planet hidden by space dust and almost get killed by a welcoming committee of civilian ships before Zelia tells them she's here for her mother. and what do you know she's there!
Now Daughter child can you tell me where the necron artifact is? uhhhh sure!
So the settlement basically consists of all the surving refugees from the blown up planet in book 1. When they realize ape has the artifact that started all this mess, they begin to argue about what to do before Zelia gets the bright idea to just bury it again. Ah yes the perfect plan. Luckly enough there's blackstone on this planet to hide it under too!
Shit!
Yeah It doesnt take long for things to go to hell in a handbasket.
Amety and Talen manage to distract the pursing Necron forces in the stolen Inquisitors ship but Zelia, ape and mekki are separated with POC mom on her weaponless freighter. Mom procedes to head streight for the tomb world and ignores everyone's objections. Zelia tries to take the wheel and mom----
Slaps her into sunday. She's been taken over by Necron mind control the whole time. Then they get teleported onto the necron Ship.
REMEMBER ME FROM BOOK 1? BITCH.
PREPARE TO MEET YOUR NEW MASTER MERLEK
The necrons had complete access to the imperal comms network. They traced mom's message nabbed her and Simply waited for the kids to come around. Ape attempts to hide the crown BUT RESITANCE IS FUTILE
Your probably wondering why they don't just simply kill everyone. Well, MERLEK actually wants no causalities because he's going attempt transferring necron souls into the refugees using the crown.
Meanwhile Talen and Amity have their hands full fighting off Scrabs. Talen spiderman's a lot of them, but the civilians are all overwhelmed. Amity gets knocked out and taken to the tomb while Talen manages to get back in the inquisitors ship and send out a coded distress call using Mekki's servosprites.
Who ordered a can of wupass?
Zelia tries diplomancy on the necron overlord. IT DOESNT WORK.
But.... He admires the balls for her to stand up to him as a mere child. Mekki tries to use his connection to ape to get into MERLEK's head and stop apes mind control, but the effort of experiencing a necron's thoughts knock him on his ass. Talen gets brought in and apparently MERLEK wants to be a chick so ...
ILL HAVE BOOBS HE-MAN! AHHAHAHA
The procedure seems like a success, but interestingly instead of completely transfering his mind, it merely copies it into Amity? It's takes a long time to fully work apparently. Zelia tries again to reason with MERLEK, saying he can just grow clones instead of hurting innocent people. MERLEK of course doesn't give a shit and throws her across the room after she tries to nab the crown.
The ultramarines start getting their asses kicked by the sheer number of Necrons pouring out of the tomb. Talen links up with a wounded Tor Johnson Ultramarine and learns these are the same SP from book 1 looking for vengeance. The kid comes up with a plan to distract the necrons and allow Zelia and Mekki an opportunity. There is also a funny scene where the ultramarine captain gets incredulous at the idea of working with children before rolling with it.
The subsequent missile attack allows the kids to escape from and jump Ape while the necrons are distracted.
Taking the monkey to the vet to get SPAYED
The power of friendship free's ape and the gang receives instructions from the ultramarine to go to their teleporter and beam over their coordinates. Everybody gets pissed when it turns out to be a melta bomb.. Zelia outright tells the captain she's gonna save everyone. "Ok, cool You've got 5 mins."
They try to bluff the necrons with ape escorting them back into the throne room, it lasts maybe 5 seconds before they get spotted. Thankfully all you need to take out a necron overlord is carefully aimed web shot at his deathmark's face.
CURSE YOU SPIDERMAN!
The deathmark gets friendly fired for his "treachery". Mekki uses holograms of everything the kids have faced to distract the guards. And Ameity breaks the mind control and throws the crown she's wearing into MERLEK's face which knocks him into the convenient bottomless pit
HE-MANNNNNN!
Then everybody gets beamed out by Talen and the Necrons explode. And everything wraps up in a solid happy ending. The Ultramarines wipe out the surviving necrons. The refugees get a new homeworld that will likely be converted into an agri world. And the fellowship ends.
Ape and Talen decide to hang out with Amity and be privateers. Mekki and Zelia alongside POC mom stay on the planet and presumably live the rest of their lives on it.
Lol I had a good time with this series. If the art wasn't so shitty it might have been more successful.
Because of the newcrons or oldcrons had a fraction of the power they did at the time of the war in heaven, there wouldn't be anything that could actually stop them within the universe of 40k. So they're too busy infighting to be that much of a threat.
I recall ClassicCrons were the explorer's party of other metallic colored Necrons that were even more OP, like silver and golden Necs, but it's the same idea.
The same goes for tyranids actually using their brains and setting up the same dormancy that got them from the empty void between galaxies to the galaxy the setting takes place in, the same reason chaos can't work together, and so on.
Aren't Nids pretty much eating everything with little stop them, as their numbers are as high as the writer states? They should have destroyed the Tau long ago.
What's that bit about psykers supposed to be?
Also, Ciaphas Cain's stories also have good ends, generally.
Kinda expected the blonde to die, possibly the Mechanicus one as well.
The kids dont directly use guns unless its shooting a lock or something. although its fucking hilarious that Talen has the highest bodycount by kiling all those Tau with a battlesuit. I guess a cool mech suit is enough to get past the censors.
The psykers?
Emperor needs his grub
Oh I love good endings in 40k, I was just joshing.
Necrons killed like one civilian and a couple ultramarines.
Yep. I guess it doesn't count as it was an abstract method. Any kid in wh40k would know to defend himself for sure, though, unless he's from a peaceful world or something.
There's Catachan's "you learn to shoot before you start to crawl" bit.
Read Vainglorious which was fun, because it is Cain, despite being repetitive to the series, becsuse it is Cain. If you like Cain, its a decent enough adventure and has some neat bits and lore.
Rereading the first Cain novel now for the author's notes and I miss the old fake motivational quotes at the start of chapters. Apparently they were just too much a nuisance to keep including as the series went on. Also interesting that IG lore has commissars only serving with units from whatever world they're originally assigned to (or at least at the time that was lore).
Gave Elemental Council another try. It was better the second time around but you really have to get past the first book in my opinion.
The intro to the book is a lot of whining and talking about feelings and my biggest complaint is that it does not get any better. As much as I love T'au they are far too often too human. I guess it creates good drama, because an alien race that truly adheres to The Greater Good would be entirely devoid of conflict and be to uninteresting. However they pick and choose when it's convenient for them to argue with each other, and when inter-t'au conflict is an impossibility.
The general theme of the novel is about finding or making your own place in the world. Not a bad idea to explore through the T'au where civil cohesion is paramount. If you can't find your use to The Greater Good then what are you?
I listened on audible and the narration was fine but I feel bad for Emma Gregory who narrated it. She has to voice a lot of men, and her way of voicing men is to rasp her voice. For what it's worth though she manages to do a good job at making each character sound distinct.
What I thought interesting was the insight we get on Kroot. A carnivore becomes an extra on the council and we get a glimpse at how they think, why they are "loyal" to the T'au, and they come out looking very deadly which sadly is rarely represented on the tabletop. Ghodh is mostly present in the later half of the book but he's an interesting character. He admits that Kroot aren't really interested in the T'au's Greater Good. They are grateful for being saved from the Drukhari long ago, but it is mostly a sense of honor that keeps them tethered to the empire. It's also convenient since the T'au offer weapons and support that otherwise Kroot would not have access to. The T'au lead them to hunts against worthy prey, and on occasion they are allowed to eat their prey which enhances their collective genes. Ghodh at first is mostly interested in being able to eat the space marine to bring back his enhanced genes to his tribe, but as the book goes on he starts to appreciate the T'au and starts to understand the whole unity thing. He's probably one of my favorite characters to be honest.
The twist at the climax was probably a lot more obvious to most readers, but I somehow managed to get it close but wrong. It is clear that they were being subverted from within. The book begins by showing the reader that a human spy is going to be planted in the T'au ranks we just don't know who. But I find the timing of it odd because she doesn't actually get used until much much later in the book. So the T'au supremacist movement, the seeker, Jules, everything was I guess just a red herring to the reader?
I'm still not sure who started or fueled the T'au supremacist movement. We know that Artamax is taking a page from Palpatine and starting a war on both sides to encourage humanity to embrace the Imperium. Maybe I didn't get it but I'm not sure they ever explained how he managed to rile up the T'au to form a sort of renegade movement that was hostile to humans. I thought it would have made sense if the Seeker was the plant because she would have been in all the right places at the right time to aid the renegades. It would've explained why she was so fond of her pet human since only another human would've shown that kind of affection. It would've explained why Artamax allowed her to be recaptured since it would've put her in the right spot for their final plan, and she would've been able to break him out. Instead they made Y’ori the traitor, but only at the end after the Seeker was recovered. Why didn't Artamax just kill her then? Why was Y’ori so insistent on sparing Artamax? Why was an Ethereal so unnaturally affectionate towards a human? Why was Jules so bloodthirsty for T'au renegades if he really was on the T'au's side? So many questions kind of go unanswered.
Where I thought the end was going was that the assassin wouldn't have been discovered, and Artamax wins. Though the T'au might of taken the world they would've been convinced that Ethereals were capable of treason, and they would lose all the human auxiliaries they could have gained from the worlds. He spells this out for the reader. That would have been a fitting Grimdark ending where both sides neither win or lose. Warhammer really likes to keep things neutral like that. Instead Y’ori somehow returns, because this Callidus is somehow extremely incompetent. She guts both Ethereals within the book and manages to kill neither of them. Seems like a massive oversight for an assassin who is entirely reliant on the person she's mimicking actually being gone. We do get something of a neutral ending but it feels kind of artificial. The planet keeps their independence and the T'au plan to check up on them in a few hundred years and see if they've reconsidered. They lose the planet but nobody has to grapple with the hard questions about the T'au'va or the Ethereals because no Ethereal really ever betrayed the Empire after all.
Overall the book has a good bit of action, but this really is a story about feelings and personal drama. If you don't like hearing people cope for several hours then this one might be a pass. I think this sell gets especially harder since it's focused on T'au rather than actual humans. I think the book could've done well to show more of the humans and how they cope during T'au occupation and how they rationalize selling out their people to the aliens. I know on release it got a lot of praise, and I don't think it's a bad book, I just think it was kind of mid. It's good but I don't know that I'd give it another read like the Farsight series.
Random question but when did tau officially get the apostrophe and did they ever give a reason why?
I went and checked and it was absolutely just tau for awhile before it became t'au. Is this the same shake up that had them start using Astartes and Astra Militarum more for copyright purposes?
Random question but when did tau officially get the apostrophe and did they ever give a reason why?
I went and checked and it was absolutely just tau for awhile before it became t'au. Is this the same shake up that had them start using Astartes and Astra Militarum more for copyright purposes?
Or in other words, yes, it was that same shakeup, since that's also when we got the Aeldari and Drukhari. 7e has them still as the Eldar and Dark Eldar.
