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Speaking of Nuln Oil, is it a valid strategy to just dip your finished models in that shit?
It depends, note that I primarily use the Vallejo equivalent (just named black wash) because a bigger bottle was only like 12 bucks and I've been using it for 2+ years. If you slather it willy nilly on some models you can sometimes end up with bad pooling, so I'd recommend to take a slightly damp brush with no paint on to take away any excess that can look wrong, some brainlets look at this and call it muh grimdark style.
I prefer to usually just give only a through wash to metals and allow that shit to pool freely in those areas, while using a thinner coat of it everywhere else with an emphasis on only leaving it to pool on cracks and crevices.
 
Ive been listening to the Dawn of Fire books (Im wrapping up the 5th, Iron Kingdom, and I skipped the 3rd, the Space Wolves one). So far theyre pretty solid. Its a really good intro point into the series. Nothing that you cant surmize from context is thrown at you unless they build it up, the characters are solid, the stories themselves interesting enough. The first book has a character that makes my heart ache in a way few other Warhammer novels have.

It also means I can totally understand why this is a common guilliman meme, even if the bookless fags use it improperly so-does-guiliman-canonically-smoke-or-is-it-just-a-meme-v0-ymmdqg4pw1ff1.jpeg

Iron Kingdom especially is a serious exercise in frustration. The books are really good at showing how fucked up the Imperium is in general, and how much work Guilliman has to do to even tie together these loose bands of hyper proud retards into something cogent and functional. Iron Kingdom as a novel is absolutely key to explaining how retarded the Imperium can be on all sides, and how Chaos subverts and takes advantage of the situation.

the primaris stuff is alright. Theres a lot of plot points that arent expanded on in depth because thats not really the point of these novels. I could see a bunch of spin offs unrelated to the main story of the Indomitus crusade about certain things.
 
It depends, note that I primarily use the Vallejo equivalent (just named black wash) because a bigger bottle was only like 12 bucks and I've been using it for 2+ years. If you slather it willy nilly on some models you can sometimes end up with bad pooling, so I'd recommend to take a slightly damp brush with no paint on to take away any excess that can look wrong, some brainlets look at this and call it muh grimdark style.
I prefer to usually just give only a through wash to metals and allow that shit to pool freely in those areas, while using a thinner coat of it everywhere else with an emphasis on only leaving it to pool on cracks and crevices.
And of course there's the gunpla guys using Tamara Panel Liner. The 40k method is to wash everything with nuln oil then re-do the flats with your basecoat to get rid of the tinting the nuln oil does, the Panel Liner just goes in the lines and is spirits based paint instead of water based, so you can use a cotton swab with some IPA to remove excess.
 
And of course there's the gunpla guys using Tam[iy]a Panel Liner.
It is quite thin though, so it works best with (surprise) actual panel lines. For everything else it can be more tricky to work with, for instance folds in clothes, bigger crevices and gaps and so on. That's why I wouldn't it recommend as a complete substitute for washes.
 
It also means I can totally understand why this is a common guilliman meme, even if the bookless fags use it improperly so-does-guiliman-canonically-smoke-or-is-it-just-a-meme-v0-ymmdqg4pw1ff1.jpeg

Also known as 'summarizing Dark Imperium' though if you really want some 'Guilleman sighs heavily and fights off depression as he has to single handedly fix shit and deal with morons' its a fantastic trilogy (its pretty great regardless).
 
Never show a Tau fanboy the Tau's first interaction with a Genestealer, they'll say it doesn't count and that the imperium is still wrong to be xenophobic

‘Your pardon, Por’el,’ Beyaal said, catching her glance. ‘I wanted to introduce my son, Geb’rah.’ She called over her shoulder. ‘Enter, child! There is nothing to fear.’

A squat figure shambled in, its heavyset form swaddled in robes. Lovingly Beyaal pulled its hood back and smiled at her prisoner.

Adibh stared, aghast, struggling to make sense of the infant’s face.

`He is but three tau’cyr,’ Beyaal crooned, ‘but children grow swiftly here.’

As the hybrid thing grinned at her through a veil of tendrils Adibh’s composure finally unravelled and a dark thought flashed through her mind: Perhaps the xenophobia of the gue’la is not a sickness, but a strength.
 
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That's what you get for expecting the primarch novels to be about the primarchs. At least half of 'em, they just show up at the end, or maybe someone bumps into them at some point in the middle of it. It's not even just GW being shitty about Ferrus Manus and IH.
The rob prequel novel wasn't too bad. I mean the narrative was divided between him and his troops but I had a pretty decent idea of what he was doing and thinking. Even when he wasn't onscreen I could see the effect his leadership had on his troops. It's fluf, but I liked it as a Smurf fan.

Are you guys saying the legions in these books barely even talk about their own primarchs?

Never show a Tau fanboy the Tau's first interaction with a Genestealer, they'll say it doesn't count and that the imperium is still wrong to be xenophobic
Shit as a tau fan id say there's hope for them yet
 
Are you guys saying the legions in these books barely even talk about their own primarchs?
Sometimes, yeah. One might go into a novel specifically named after a particular primarch, and actually expect it to to primarily be about that primarch.

The Perturabo book is actually great for following Perturabo specifically, how he grew up on Olympia, his relationship with his adoptive family and all of the political bullshit that went with it, his attitudes towards other people of varying status, and so on.
 
It is quite thin though, so it works best with (surprise) actual panel lines. For everything else it can be more tricky to work with, for instance folds in clothes, bigger crevices and gaps and so on. That's why I wouldn't it recommend as a complete substitute for washes.
Agreed.

Tau want panel liner for suits, Marines want washes for armour and cloaks.

You should try and recess shade only but its too hard on a lot of models so i dont bother. Hell ive started to call a base and wash a job well done (unless its obvious it needs highlights). Not everything needs to be layered or highlighted.
 
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because originally that crowd was just buying prestained wood finish cans(shit like minwax polycrylic) and doing crap like this.

It is also cheaper to buy it in bulk rather than the spoonful at a time you get buying nuln oil or agrax earthshade from GW, especially if you're doing a bunch of terrain. Of course if you are doing a huge board or pile of terrain, you should probably know how to just make your own washes by that point.
 
Never show a Tau fanboy the Tau's first interaction with a Genestealer, they'll say it doesn't count and that the imperium is still wrong to be xenophobic
That is not their first interaction with a Genestealer lol. Their first interaction is way before it, when they found one hibernating and decided to experiment on it. It is in their Codex Timeline.

That isn't even the first interaction with Genestealers from the Tau by just that author. A Sanctuary of Wyrms is set before, and surprise, the Imperium made the same mistake the Tau did in trying to experiment with Genestealers, which is what triggered the entire story.

Voice of Experience also has Genestealers within the Tau (mostly a Vespid colony).

Unrelated, but one thing I enjoyed on Elemental Council is that the Raptor on it is an actual smart enemy, not a "character is said to be smart but isn't"; he is smart, he did his homework, and understands the Greater Good, but he rejects it.

It is a bit like The Dark Knight, where the Joker is the Raptor. As the Joker wants to prove that humans will kill each other under pressure, the Marine wants to set the Tau into action that will ruin their image and cause a mass rebellion. Artamax fails because he can not fathom what the Tau actually do with the rebellion. After all, as a Space Marine and as an Imperial, he can not understand their point of view fully.

The only problem I think is that there are some moments in the book where he fails to kill the protagonists by an inch all to often.
 
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That is not their first interaction with a Genestealer lol. Their first interaction is way before it, when they found one hibernating and decided to experiment on it. It is in their Codex Timeline.

That isn't even the first interaction with Genestealers from the Tau by just that author. A Sanctuary of Wyrms is set before, and surprise, the Imperium made the same mistake the Tau did in trying to experiment with Genestealers, which is what triggered the entire story.
Fair, I didn't know this because this is literally the first tau book i'm reading, like ever.
 
Fair, I didn't know this because this is literally the first tau book i'm reading, like ever.
I would recommend looking for the 7th-8th ed codexes for all factions.
They all got a timeline with some cool events that never got novelized.
For example, the 7th ed Ork codex got a Snakebites tribe seeding planets with Tyranids for a good fight, or them stealing a titan, who self-destructs in anger, only to damage the Imperials more than it damages the Orks.
They are quite easy to find (for the 8th ed), and since they aren't sold anymore, there is no reason not to pirate.

Wake me when they adapt this:

The Blood Axes of Waaagh! Grog tell a story about the greatest Kommando attack ever, known as Da Big Raid. It happened on the world of Vor’sanar, when Waaagh! Grog smashed into the edges of the Tau Empire. Freebooter raids on the Tau planet had been previously repulsed by a huge alien warship with more dakka than anything in the Ork fleet. Called the Korst’la by the Tau and Da Big Dakkaship by the Orks, it stalked the space lanes around Vor’sanar, annihilating anything that trespassed on the Tau Empire. The Korst’la’s only weakness was that it needed to use the huge orbital docks around Vor’sanar to refuel and rearm. While Grog knocked the heads of his Freebooter Kaptins together, trying to get a large enough fleet together to storm the Tau planet, a mob of Blood Axe Kommandos came up with a more cunning plan. They would attack the orbital docks while the Korst’la was away, wrecking the Tau station, and denying the warship a place to repair itself or rearm. The Kommandos set out in a looted Tau transport ship, using captured codes to approach the Vor’sanar dockyard under the pretence of having been damaged in an Ork raid and seeking safe harbour. The Tau were initially suspicious of the lone vessel limping into their station, but every demand for identification was met with a satisfactory response, and the idea that Orks could undertake such a ruse was unthinkable to the Tau. It was a horrific surprise then when the vacuum seals opened and Ork Kommandos poured out into the station. By the time the Tau had mustered to repel the invaders, the Kommandos had reached the station’s reactors. Smashing them to scrap, they set off a chain reaction, dooming the station and allowing Waaagh! Grog to ransack Vor’sanar and ultimately the entire sector.
Codex Orks 7th ed

Rude Awakening
While attempting to loot the ancient treasures of a Necron tomb world, the Deathskulls of Waaagh! Zort trigger the planet’s reanimation protocols. Canoptek constructs by the thousand surround the greenskin invaders, but far from being intimidated, the Deathskulls are delighted. Scavenging and stealing at will, the Orks cobble together hordes of Cyborks and Morkanauts, and ever-more improbable super-weapons, while using a hijacked Necron dolmen gate to ferry in wave upon wave of reinforcements. By the time Overlord Thanptek the Magnificent awakens to take command of his legions, he does so to the sight of a mob of leering Mekboyz standing over his sarcophagus, evil gleams in their eyes and revving power tools in their hands.
Codex Orks 8th ed
 
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Agreed.

Tau want panel liner for suits, Marines want washes for armour and cloaks.

You should try and recess shade only but its too hard on a lot of models so i dont bother. Hell ive started to call a base and wash a job well done (unless its obvious it needs highlights). Not everything needs to be layered or highlighted.
Amen, I generally go for high model count armies and only centrepieces and characters get any special attention. I'm not detailing every single clanrat, nobody else cares and I'm not autistic enough.

Respect to people who do though, powerful aura.
 
I used some Army Painter dip to knock out some Krieg over the weekend. It takes forever to cure, the finish is incredibly glossy (needs a matte varnish over the top) and softens the model's details, but for the time invested it looks pretty good.
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I think they look great. Tempted to invest in some dip. What flavour of dip are you using? I know there's a few.
Bit of a rant, but I keep hearing about that (a friend loves the stuff) and so called "Marine juice" which is just wash + medium.

If your hobby desk doesn't look like this don't even bother talking to me.
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I avoid that by not having a hobby desk at all.
 
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