Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

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AnOminous dijo:
I'm not sure how completely failing to get any of your evidence into the record because you filed bogus notarizations claiming you were in the same room as the witnesses when they were a hundred miles away is the "best" of anything. That's abject incompetence. Spending $20 at Staples to get an actual notarization would have worked.

That is nobody's "best."
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The best defence I could muster for that is that he thought he was licensed to do remote notary and had done it routinely in the past. Which... yeah.

I don't blame the man, still. He was in the same boat as Vic: he trusted the world to make sense and for the right words, at the right time, to turn the tide. He's an idealist, used to working with gentlemen. In hindsight, he was the wrong man for the job.
 
teriyakiburns dijo:
The best defence I could muster for that is that he thought he was licensed to do remote notary and had done it routinely in the past. Which... yeah.

I don't blame the man, still. He was in the same boat as Vic: he trusted the world to make sense and for the right words, at the right time, to turn the tide. He's an idealist, used to working with gentlemen. In hindsight, he was the wrong man for the job.
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If my mom made me a grocery list and I thought I got the carrots and potatoes, but I didn't, it's one thing.

If somebody paid me 200K for basically the same and did it wrong because I thought there'd be carrots and potatoes at Home Depot, they'd said I'm a thief.
 
teriyakiburns dijo:
The best defence I could muster for that is that he thought he was licensed to do remote notary and had done it routinely in the past. Which... yeah.

I don't blame the man, still. He was in the same boat as Vic: he trusted the world to make sense and for the right words, at the right time, to turn the tide. He's an idealist, used to working with gentlemen. In hindsight, he was the wrong man for the job.
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Wait, what? You don't blame a lawyer who skirts basic procedural rules because... he has some sense of cosmic justice? Sure, he seems like a nice guy, but also a terribly incompetent lawyer.

The legal profession is not for people whose hearts are in the right place. It's for people who like rules and procedures enough to study how to manipulate legal arcana better than the the lawyer on the other side of the table. That's why they get paid so much.

Like I said, I don't think Ty understands the adversarial nature of what happens in a trial. He never worked for another law firm before going out to start his own practice, so he has probably never seen how people with big budgets operate. He should have known that this kind of work was out of his league and referred Vic on to someone who could handle it. Not recognizing that and not giving Vic another referral is a huge personal failing for Ty and makes him look like a grifter.

By the way, this also calls most of Ty Beard's past trusts (which is the domain of two-bit strip mall lawyers) into question - if someone wants to get into a fight over an inheritance, they can now bring up that the he has a history of fucking around with notarization.
 
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Happy Fish dijo:
Are we really arguing that a fucking lawyer shouldn't know to dot their "i"s and cross their "t"s?
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>lawyers
>putting enough work to spell check their work.

This is more unrealistic than Communist Utopia.

Yes, I realize that this is a common saying, my point still stands
 
Happy Fish dijo:
Are we really arguing that a fucking lawyer shouldn't know to dot their "i"s and cross their "t"s?
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no it's just @teriyakiburns is ass mad that his lunch money went into Ty's wargaming collection and he's trying to rationalize that in fact, he was one of the "good ones, who made a couple of mistakes" as a massive shot of cope.
 
Dyn dijo:
I don't think anyone's upset here except a few incels who wanted Vic to get away with silencing his victims, and I sincerely hope they're just a fringe minority.
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Okay - either this is a joke that's gone on way too long, or you've got some reason for thinking Vic's accusers are right. Either way, put up or shut up.
 
teriyakiburns dijo:
I don't blame the man, still. He was in the same boat as Vic: he trusted the world to make sense and for the right words, at the right time, to turn the tide. He's an idealist, used to working with gentlemen.
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You don't get to be a lawyer and believe that. That is the kind of dumb thinking that should be beaten out of you when you're a child.
 
AnOminous dijo:
You don't get to be a lawyer and believe that. That is the kind of dumb thinking that should be beaten out of you when you're a child.
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Which is why I said he's retrospectively the wrong man for the job. He should have stuck to contracts. It's more suited to his way of thought.
 
Exceptional individualist dijo:
Don’t know why everyone is blaming Ty, he did his best but Vic is receiving a divine punishment for the sins of being a homosexual and liking anime.
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So you think taking time to get shit faced on a live stream and sell these shirts for his own profit
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While simultaneously not doing the job he was paid at least a quarter million dollars for, is "his best?" Christ. What's his worst? Shooting Vic in the dick and balls with a flare gun?
 

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AnOminous dijo:
That's because we are usually on the side of the detested underdog.
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tbf, Null has had an excellent track record defending against lawsuits, even when he doesn't know about them.

I'd like to think the lesson is to not try and drag people into court for shit they say, even if they're the embodiment of the soyjack memes
Mothra1988 dijo:
The case literally didn't get judged on the merits becuase the lawyer fumbled on technicalities concerning paperwork and timelines. And no one really expected the appeals to work. It was obvious that was some crap shoot that had a zero chance of happening.
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When hopium turns to copium
 
Apteryx Owenii dijo:
When hopium turns to copium
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Even Rekeita said there was no chance. You can check my post history, there were maybe 3 or 4 people that were following the appeals with any serious hope it would be a reversal instead of just doing it to see where it was going. Also I agree the judge was a fucking retard who didn't follow procedure either, which may have given some avenue for appeal, but Ty buried the case so much that went out the window as well.
 
AnOminous dijo:
I'm not sure how completely failing to get any of your evidence into the record because you filed bogus notarizations claiming you were in the same room as the witnesses when they were a hundred miles away is the "best" of anything. That's abject incompetence. Spending $20 at Staples to get an actual notarization would have worked.

That is nobody's "best."
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Not only did he not get any evidence in, but Vic's affidavit was taken on 8/30/2019, the day of the deadline for the response to the TCPA Motions to Dismiss.

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(from page 99 of the response)

Depending on when in the day it was taken, there may not have been time to go to Staples! Maybe this is normal operating procedure. To me it reeks of a student scrambling to write their report the night before it's due (and submitting it late), but this may not be fair if it's standard practice. Either way, it afforded him no room for error, and boy was there error all around.
 
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