Victor Markhoff / Ana Victoria Markhoff / vvictorman_uel - Powerchair faker pooner, has every illness, allergic to Krebs cycle, bed mayo enjoyer, kicked out of house and mental hospital, constant ebeggar, applesauce heiress paid to yeet her teets

If this is the end of the farms;
Vicky,
It is a very horrible thing to find out that you are not the next great mind of your generation, that your pay-to-play high school may have gassed you up, that your applesauce heiress may have paid for your tit chop in a Machiavellian move of intrasexual, intra-generational competition calculation. You can still save yourself. You can still live a good life. But you need to get out of the chair and you need to admit to your parents that you made a terrible, terrible mistake, that you need their help to take back. They will help you, because their only purpose on this Earth is your and your siblings existence. Please save yourself.
Edit: My sister, time runs out, doors close before we ever noticed them. Please look around, see where you are and know that the time to act is now.
 
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Yeah, it’s a pretty ugly statue but why do leftists do this?

I’m less offended by, say, groypers being assholes, since at least they don’t alternate being assholes with screeching BE KIND, like Vicky and her ilk.

Is a little consistency too much to ask for? Smdh.
 
Is a little consistency too much to ask for?
Consistency as a concept is ableist, white-supremacist and cisheteronormative.

I recently learned that some lady called Tema Okun defined the characteristics of whiteness as follows: perfectionism, a sense of urgency, worship of the written word, a right to comfort, individualism, one right way and objectivity. Its possibly the most racist thing ever written and doesn't really pertain to Vicky but if the forum's on borrowed time I might as well shoehorn it in. And Vicky does have a sense of urgency for doctors to treat her, obvioysly takes a comfort as a given. She also worships her own written word, thinks her way is the right way.
 
FML I did a racism and assumed she was black based on her name, and the assumption that only lolcows (looking at you Ace) are quite this insane about white people while being white themselves. I should have known she was white.

I do find it hilarious though that her list is basically everything that you need to go from hunter gatherer to enjoying all our modern tech and is also not in any way limited to white people. Genghis Khan certainly exemplified "Progress is bigger, more" and last I checked many world religions elevate treat their written documents as authoritative.

Anyway, Vicky- tweet something we can laugh at. Though her most recent retweet is somewhat funny given she's probably never applied for a job in her life and clearly has an alternative source of income:

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This is Tema Okun btw
I was trying to find more background on her and, like Vicky, Tema wants to be the main character who "liberates" us from "our white supremacy capitalist patriarchal ableist heteronormative fool of a culture," but, unlike Vicky, Tema doesnt seem to have Vicky's victim-savior complex. She doesnt lie about being a poor, non-white, disabled DEI victim to fit in with the far-left and radical humanities scholars. Tema seems to have more of a “selfless savior” complex. She uses the fact that she is white, abled, cisgender, and therefore privileged—but chooses to fight against the very systems that give her that privilege—as a way to position herself as a selfless savior and the voice of The People™️. Just a thought. I think its fascinating when white leftist speak on racism or whiteness.

Some quotes from the site linked above:

"My name is Tema Okun. I have been on this planet for many decades and I know a thing or two about a thing or two, including white supremacy and racism."

"By the time I was born, my father was a college professor in an elite Southern college town and my mother worked on and off in the public schools. I grew up during the last years of Jim Crow and the first years of school desegregation, both enactments of violent white supremacy and racism."

"I am a white woman, currently cisgender and able-bodied, upper class. I am older, sometimes an elder"

"I am conditioned to be fearful while determined to be open-hearted and I live in that ongoing tension each day with as much grace and humor as I can muster. I am deeply puzzled by why and how we seem to value profit over people and why and how we base our belonging on who we can keep out rather than who we welcome in. And by we, I mean our culture, our white supremacy capitalist patriarchal ableist heteronormative fool of a culture."
 
Vicky is absolutely the last person who could successfully navigate any relationship founded on the need to adapt to another person.
Went back a few pages to quote you. Check out this absolute slammer that Vicky responded to:

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Obviously, Vicky is having none of it:

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I'm a huge sucker for throwbacks, so let's see what Vicky's opinions have been about finding Prince/ss Charming?

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"I have avoidant attachment because um, childhood trauma and unavailable caregivers : ("

"You have GOT to stop outsourcing your lack of maternal love in childhood to romantic prospects if you actually want to get anywhere with dating."

"UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"
 
I know it's Vicky we're talking about but I find it insane how often and quickly she tries to reorient a topic to be about her. It has to be about her. She's not even pretending to be curious about other people's thoughts and experiences and if she is- it's only to one-up them later
 
I know it's Vicky we're talking about but I find it insane how often and quickly she tries to reorient a topic to be about her. It has to be about her. She's not even pretending to be curious about other people's thoughts and experiences and if she is- it's only to one-up them later
Well yeah every munchie is like that
 
"I have avoidant attachment because um, childhood trauma and unavailable caregivers : ("

"You have GOT to stop outsourcing your lack of maternal love in childhood to romantic prospects if you actually want to get anywhere with dating."

"UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"
Sometimes she seems like satire, can't imagine putting my unwillingness to self-reflect out there on a public forum like that. Gotta give her some credit though, wanting to have her cake and eat it too (in the dating sphere) is the most male behavior she's ever exhibited.

It really gets me thinking about the bigger picture though. Other than this thread, I've consistently kept up with the munchausen's one and have been working my way through the entirety of the SRS and GRS horrors thread (slowly, for sanity). There's a common theme with all of these individuals' antics (like histrionic, anxious, or narcissistic behaviors), and as a collective social species, we've strayed so unbelievably far from treating psychiatric issues with accepting reality and managing our own complex feelings about being unable to control anything. We've stopped pushing back when people externalize their inner turmoil (which makes sense when quick "treatments" and cures are a lucrative commodity and the hard work of whipping your ego into shape is a thankless, consuming task). We let people chop up their bodies either for medical devices or rotpockets rather than challenge them to face / manage their psychological distress. Then it reinforces to them that their psychological distress can be managed externally and the cycle continues.

People like Vicky and those who desperately want to be sick / some other sex throw actual tantrums to be allowed to mold the fabric of reality to their pathologies and desires, unloading the discomfort of ego reflection and personal accountability onto some unmanageable external factor. That person who said "bitch go to therapy" is so fucking correct - in therapy, when you're faced with an unchangeable circumstance, you get the ol' "change what you can and have the grace to accept what you can't". Half of therapy is unraveling issues, the other half is accepting them. They will not change. This is the nature of life. When did we stop teaching this? When did people get so... enabled... by the possibilities of their science fiction delusions that they lose sight of personal responsibility? Most importantly, when will there be a reckoning or some vast acknowledgement that all of these phenomena are related to the same core inability to accept and manage the harshness of being alive, and nobody is special enough to avoid it? When did the lines blur between personality disorders and identity politics? (all kind of rhetorical but always appreciate other perspectives here)
 
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think Vickster does it all the time, I feel like other munchies are trying to do it in a subtler manner
The average munchie is of about average or higher intelligence. Considering the head start Vicky had regarding her upbringing and schooling, and the fact that she seems unable to be at least consistent in her lies or that she never references anything beyond the scope of a pre-teen, I would say that her intellect is far below average.

She is incapable of being subtle because she doesn't have the awareness of an average 17-year old kid, let alone that of a 27-year old woman.
 
Half of therapy is unraveling issues, the other half is accepting them. They will not change. This is the nature of life. When did we stop teaching this? When did people get so... enabled... by the possibilities of their science fiction delusions that they lose sight of personal responsibility? Most importantly, when will there be a reckoning or some vast acknowledgement that all of these phenomena are related to the same core inability to accept and manage the harshness of being alive, and nobody is special enough to avoid it? When did the lines blur between personality disorders and identity politics? (all kind of rhetorical but always appreciate other perspectives here)

Rev up those Moais, because the answer to this is political sperging of the highest order.

In the West, our philosophical and religious traditions have largely been Dualist - the belief that there is the physical, measurable universe, but also a separate universe of thought and/or of spirituality. In Philosophy this goes back to at least Plato and in religion it probably goes back to the Proto-Indo-European religion which originated in the Middle East around 6000BC and also spawned the Dharmic religions (Hinduism and Buddhism), which are also Dualist. When Western thought has not been Dualist, it has been Idealist - the view that the physical universe does not actually exist, and that all that exists is the realm of thought which our minds interact with (after all, we only experience thought, maybe that's what the universe is made out of in its entirety) - this has seen a resurgence in recent years with the "new thought" movement that says you can manifest things with thought because thought is all there is.

But there is one Western tradition that rejects the idea of the mental or spiritual universes entirely - Marxism.

Marxism describes itself as "Dialectical Materialism" to distinguish itself from Hegel's dialectic, which was extremely dualist (it argued that dialectics applied to ideas first, then to physical reality through our actions caused by that thought). Materialism, though, means a belief that only the physical exists. That's why Marxists reject all religion and spirituality, and replace them with economics. To the Marxist, the idea of the soul is a falsehood spread by priests and Fascists (Fascism is an incredibly spiritual dualist belief system where the soul is the most important thing) in order to keep people oppressed. Marxists believe that Kings and Priests promise paradise in the next life so that they can rule in this one, so people live their entire lives in oppression, sold a false promise of justice in an afterlife that will never come.

Marxists hate anything that isn't about the physical. You will often find them using words like "occult" or "esoteric" as perjoratives. Economics is the only religion that is valid, because it is about stuff.

Thought, to the Marxist, is just physical stuff too. Interacting chemicals and electricity in the brain, that will be deciphered by science one day (if you think this sounds a lot like Reddit Atheism, you are correct - even if they aren't Marxists, they were educated by people who were). To the Materialist, there is no such thing as a psychological problem - all "psychological" problems have physical causes, maybe inside the body, maybe outside. But it's a problem of matter and energy, not a problem of thought or spirit.

Physical problems have physical solutions. Crime isn't caused by evil, evil is a thought/spirit idea and isn't real. Crime is caused by poverty. Loyalty to things like "family" or "nation" is irrational/Fascist, because those things can't be measured by science and therefore aren't real. Mental illness is caused by faulty brain processes. Gender dysphoria is not "mental illness", because the "mental" isn't real. It's just brain chemistry and a disconnect with the body, as well as material conditions outside the body (societal transphobia, inequality, poverty blah blah blah). To the materialist, "mental illness" isn't real in the way that dualists understand it. You cannot be sick in thought, because thought isn't real, it's just electricity and chemicals. So what a Dualist or Idealist would see as a sickness of thought, a Materialist sees as a sickness of the body, with a physical cause.

That leads to the belief that all "mental" illness can be fixed by pills and surgery, or even by re-arranging society and economics. The concepts of "self-reliance" "responsibility" and "maturity" sound dangerously Dualist, because you can't measure those things. That makes them "esoteric" at best and "Fascist" at worst, because they imply the existence of things other than the physical. The causes of all your problems are, by definition, external, and so are their solutions.

If this is my last sperg-out before the Farms goes down, it's been a pleasure.
 
Still annecdoting about high school. Also what position
Is this the only time she ever interviewed for a job? Just nope not for me and never did it again? That's my headcanon now, anyway.

Someone showed me a reddit archiving tool and while it doesn't have as many of Vicki's posts as Google, what it does have are some of her deleted posts. My fave:

EMERGENCY SWEET TEA

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Well this explains the weight gain. Anyway, people call her out on the helpless act:

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A couple of really interesting old timeline things lock into place here. Get a load of Vicki's most serious suicide attempt.

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Her only tweet from the day of or after the 2018 date claimed as the attempt date:

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Oh yeah one creepy thing from that archival stuff...Vicki spent years obsessed with 9/11 and basically vampirically asking people for their stories about it who had experienced the day either up close or as a horrified person seeing the news. She seemed to really want to hear people's traumatic stories about this specific historical event. She asked questions all over reddit about it for years. Stuff about what people her age would never really understand about 9/11, what it was really like. Weird.
 
I was trying to find more background on her and, like Vicky, Tema wants to be the main character who "liberates" us from "our white supremacy capitalist patriarchal ableist heteronormative fool of a culture," but, unlike Vicky, Tema doesnt seem to have Vicky's victim-savior complex. She doesnt lie about being a poor, non-white, disabled DEI victim to fit in with the far-left and radical humanities scholars. Tema seems to have more of a “selfless savior” complex. She uses the fact that she is white, abled, cisgender, and therefore privileged—but chooses to fight against the very systems that give her that privilege—as a way to position herself as a selfless savior and the voice of The People™️. Just a thought. I think its fascinating when white leftist speak on racism or whiteness.

Some quotes from the site linked above:

"My name is Tema Okun. I have been on this planet for many decades and I know a thing or two about a thing or two, including white supremacy and racism."

"By the time I was born, my father was a college professor in an elite Southern college town and my mother worked on and off in the public schools. I grew up during the last years of Jim Crow and the first years of school desegregation, both enactments of violent white supremacy and racism."

"I am a white woman, currently cisgender and able-bodied, upper class. I am older, sometimes an elder"

"I am conditioned to be fearful while determined to be open-hearted and I live in that ongoing tension each day with as much grace and humor as I can muster. I am deeply puzzled by why and how we seem to value profit over people and why and how we base our belonging on who we can keep out rather than who we welcome in. And by we, I mean our culture, our white supremacy capitalist patriarchal ableist heteronormative fool of a culture."

I'd love to see her reaction when she's in hospital.

*Janitor walks in*

"Mrs Okun I've heard what you said three days ago and I'm diagnosing you with kuru"

"But it's in my chart I had surgery last week and my wound is hot and red and I'm running a high fever! Why have I been laying here three days!?And where is the doctor?"

"I see, worship of the written word, avoidance of delegation to others, expectation of timeliness...
I'm also diagnosing you with stage 4 whiteness
Take this anti racism course and try to avoid consuming anymore human flesh"
 
To the Materialist, there is no such thing as a psychological problem - all "psychological" problems have physical causes, maybe inside the body, maybe outside. But it's a problem of matter and energy, not a problem of thought or spirit.

Physical problems have physical solutions. Crime isn't caused by evil, evil is a thought/spirit idea and isn't real.

But this doesn't follow through to materialist principles. For example if you have a tranny or a criminal or another defective what you have is a defective machine so the materialist solution would be to simply let it die of it's defects and replace it with a better one. This idea of reorientation society to work around defects because we "ought" to is not materialist. "Ought" or "morality" are also esoteric concepts. It's like if you had a combine harvester that missed every other crop, redesigning the farm to half half as many crops spaced twice as far instead of just throwing out your broken combine harvester and getting a better one
 
To the Materialist, there is no such thing as a psychological problem
Sorry to derail for the second time in one day but this isn't technically true as it ignores emergent phenomena- which consciousness is widely regarded to be.

So take a car, find out everything about it, all the materials, the engine cycle, everything. Look at the highway code or whatever. Is there anything in it that dictates the behaviour of a traffic jam? No. A traffic jam is an entirely different phenomenon that arises when multiple cars together interact. A traffic jam cannot be explained by the properties of a car alone, but its a purely material phenomenon nonetheless. A more directly physical example happens during phase transition according to a very rough memory from over 15 years ago.

Though I also take @Zipppolite's point above that in my understanding of the flavour of materialism you described- a munchie or a tranny is indeed a broken machine. I haven't really studied any sort of Marxism, my understanding of materialism is rooted in analytic philosophy.
 
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