Valve Introduces Steam Machine, Steam Frame, Steam Controller - Gabe Cube

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The only way this thing works over the long term is if big developers develop their games with this level of hardware as the target for the next ten years. Then Valve can slowly drop the price and slowly introduce an incremental improvement and then start doing the apple thing where you build a premium, mid, and budget tier of the device based on rebadging the past models.
They'd be better off targeting laptop integrated graphics perf. Lunar Lake graphics was similar to GTX1050 tier perf, IMO that's heaps. That's way more than you'd get out of a PS4, more than plenty to make really amazing games.

Unreal Engine 5 seems to be a millstone on the whole industry as it quickly became a standard while running like asswater on anything short of very high end hardware,
 
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Honestly, I wish the gaming industry could just settle down for a while on the idea that it needs to be about pushing the technical bleeding edge.
Bleeding edge of what? Monetization? Games from the PS3 era look better than lots of new games. There are PS2 era games that have better animation than current games. Most modern games have troons and baboon faced niggers and ugly featured character models. The art direction is consistently awful. The entire industry has regressed. Optimization is nonexistent. Games are carrying sometimes dozens of extra gigabytes of useless files. DRM everywhere and constant online checks yet servers are down for hours every week.
$1000 for a console just does not work.
- $1000 for console. Comes with no controllers nor games.
- $150 for controller that drifts and breaks after one or two years. No first party wired controllers.
- $80 for games. Digital only. Only basic edition of game.
- $100 for complete games with all content unlocked. Digital only.
- $10 monthly fee for online. Forced online for game saves.
- $200 for extra memory for more games.
- $200 three year warranty. No hardware servicing provided after warranty expires.

It's not just the consoles that are the problem.
 
at a $1000+ the market really shrinks to people who want a small living room computer to do all their multimedia and gaming and dont have other solutions already. i dont know what that number is because im a kiwi and am already an outlier on the tech stuff.
i have a dedicated pc for gaming, nas and plex that i built up over the years. i have old laptops that can plug into the tv and do the same. i assume the rest of us are also outliers with the tech shit too. i have friends who have an xbox or ps5 and no steamdeck or streambox but even if it was $600-700 i don't know if they'd have a use for it.
I am in a cozy gamer group on Facebook. Every day someone comes by and posts “I want a cheap laptop that will run The Sims 4/some other kind of kinda beefy game, I’ve never had a computer before”

The SM is going to be a really good option for people like that, because a “cheap” laptop is going to bog down quickly and barely be capable to run all eleven million DLCs and gigs of custom content. And probably not cost much less, unless it’s really low specs. The UI is simple enough for people who have never really even used a PC. A lot of very non technical people use the SD in that group.

I would have loved this in my first apartment, because 600 sq ft is really not a lot of room for both a desk and a TV. Without starting to feel crowded once more than person is over.
 
Unreal Engine 5 seems to be a millstone on the whole industry as it quickly became a standard while running like asswater on anything short of very high end hardware,
I would make the argument that UE5 is moreso a crutch, because some jap devs made some pretty optimized games with UE5
 
SM is going to be a really good option for people like that, because a “cheap” laptop is going to bog down quickly and
It's rocking laptop parts from 3 years ago though. I'm interested in seeing more comparative testing when people get their hands on it but I think the SM will very much be in "cheap laptop" territory. Well, cheap gaming laptop anyway, it will obviously smoke anything with an APU.

Agree on the interface, I really like the deck UI and big picture mode and having something that boots straight into that with no tinkering is perfect for normies.

For anyone posting here, you probably have the technical knowledge on how to achieve those results with anything without spending over a grand. I've got a SFF bazzite box booting into big picture on an ancient haswell and Nvidia GPU.
 
Having seen people complaining about the massive prince jump from storage, can I just ask...
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What fucking rock have you been living under? That is the cheapest 2TB SSD that is in stock anywhere. It used to be $90 and it is current over $200, reaching almost $250 at some point. For a brand 99% of people haven't heard of in their entire life.
- $1000 for console. Comes with no controllers nor games.
- $150 for controller that drifts and breaks after one or two years. No first party wired controllers.
- $80 for games. Digital only. Only basic edition of game.
- $100 for complete games with all content unlocked. Digital only.
- $10 monthly fee for online. Forced online for game saves.
- $200 for extra memory for more games.
- $200 three year warranty. No hardware servicing provided after warranty expires.

It's not just the consoles that are the problem.
PCs were always considered the "kitchen stove" of gaming. It's always going to be more expensive upfront and a bit more complicated compared to a microwave (see: console), but it would end up being cheaper longterm.
 
I've seen countless posts on twitter this week about someone embarrassing themselves by "building a better steam machine" than Valve that completely misses the point of the device entirely. For example:
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Who needs a feeble steam machine when you could just build a shoddy looking ITX build that's already a few generations old with a PSU that isn't even powerful enough for the graphics card? Sure, the 12v rail is gonna sag harder than 80 year old tits and overall the system is a disaster waiting to happen, but look! Wood grain front panel!

The pricing of the Steam Machine is tragic but expected, so leave it to every xitter retard to misinterpret exactly WHY the system is expensive and offer up their god-awful alternative.
 
with a PSU that isn't even powerful enough for the graphics card?
The 6-pin connector is unfortunate, but the PSU itself would be powerful enough to drive a 160W GPU and 88W CPU. I drive a stronger setup with a 400W PSU without issues. Power draw at the socket has never exceeded 310W. A 400W UPS is sufficient for the PC and the OLED monitor combined.

He would need an adapter to combine the 6-pin and an SATA or molex cable into an 8-pin, but I don't see any possible issues otherwise.
 
I've seen countless posts on twitter this week about someone embarrassing themselves by "building a better steam machine" than Valve that completely misses the point of the device entirely. For example:
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Who needs a feeble steam machine when you could just build a shoddy looking ITX build that's already a few generations old with a PSU that isn't even powerful enough for the graphics card? Sure, the 12v rail is gonna sag harder than 80 year old tits and overall the system is a disaster waiting to happen, but look! Wood grain front panel!

The pricing of the Steam Machine is tragic but expected, so leave it to every xitter retard to misinterpret exactly WHY the system is expensive and offer up their god-awful alternative.
Yeah, thats better than the valve box. Whats your point
 
I mean...so is the steam machine? It's a cut down gaming laptop from 2023.

It's fine to say you're ok to pay a premium to not fuck around building something yourself but "it's not got the latest hardware" isn't an own if you're talking about the steam machine as the alternative.
I forgot to mention that the ITX build listed is about $300 more than a Steam Machine despite being Zen 3 and DDR4. Perhaps I should have clarified it better in my first post that it not being the latest hardware isn't the issue here, it's the fact that you're paying even more of a premium for junk-drawer parts.
 
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Bleeding edge of what? Monetization? Games from the PS3 era look better than lots of new games. There are PS2 era games that have better animation than current games. Most modern games have troons and baboon faced niggers and ugly featured character models. The art direction is consistently awful. The entire industry has regressed. Optimization is nonexistent. Games are carrying sometimes dozens of extra gigabytes of useless files. DRM everywhere and constant online checks yet servers are down for hours every week.

- $1000 for console. Comes with no controllers nor games.
- $150 for controller that drifts and breaks after one or two years. No first party wired controllers.
- $80 for games. Digital only. Only basic edition of game.
- $100 for complete games with all content unlocked. Digital only.
- $10 monthly fee for online. Forced online for game saves.
- $200 for extra memory for more games.
- $200 three year warranty. No hardware servicing provided after warranty expires.

It's not just the consoles that are the problem.
Forgot: Have no option for 3rd party alternatives to the official store, so you're locked in to the gay system with no options to mod the games plus being stuck in the current gen.
 
I got the waitlist. :(

Oh well, I was in 3rd quarter delivery for the Deck too. It’ll happen for me eventually.
Which SKU are you in the list for? Since everyone that signed up for one will have ticked all 4 choices I'd expect there will be plenty of people swapping to the queue for the one they actually wanted. There's every chance you'll get one a bit sooner than any estimate from your initial queue spot.
 
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