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Going from its $1,049 price tag, I wonder how much the base-model Steam Machine would be, if we didn't have the RAMpocalypse, and RAM and storage were what they were a year ago, or even slightly cheaper. Probably around $850?
Very obviously, it would've been even less worth the money because the cost of the rest of the components would've remained unchanged.
Based on the early reviews it's not as good as the 7600 (assume because of power limits) and is somewhere between the 7600 and 6600 performance wise.
Maybe with new components you will struggle but I think if you are looking at pound for pound performance you could get something with better value because you are looking at performance equivalent to 5+ year old components.
Based on the early reviews it's not as good as the 7600 (assume because of power limits) and is somewhere between the 7600 and 6600 performance wise.
Maybe with new components you will struggle but I think if you are looking at pound for pound performance you could get something with better value because you are looking at performance equivalent to 5+ year old components.
Not to go too far off-topic, but do young people even play games anymore? I look around and it seems like everyone younger than the Millennials just doesn't play games at all. Why would they drop $1000 on a Steam machine if they aren't even going to use it?
I'm not just talking about "The price targets Valve fanboys" I'm looking at it more like "Who is even going to use this?"
I get that they're marketing it as a computer, but it seems more like a console-equivalent so you don't have a living-room-tower or have to run a connection from your desktop to a different TV/monitor. If that's the case, then the target audience is people who not only have the money to buy it, but who live in houses bigger than a studio/1-bedroom apartment and/or have the luxury of access to a "living room" that isn't also your personal bedroom.
Despite what copers are saying the vast majority of people that look at the Steam Machine are going to think its a console and compare it to consoles which are a far better value than this DOA paperweight.
Despite what copers are saying the vast majority of people that look at the Steam Machine are going to think its a console and compare it to consoles which are a far better value than this DOA paperweight.
That's kind of what I was asking, above.
If it's a "living room box" then they're targeting people who have living rooms. People who may want to play their existing Steam library on the "big TV" or something.
That's kind of what I was asking, above.
If it's a "living room box" then they're targeting people who have living rooms. People who may want to play their existing Steam library on the "big TV" or something.
I remember that is what the Steam Link was marketed for and no one bought it. It also only just "worked" it didnt work well or excel, it just barely did what it said on the box
Yes the GPU is slower, the CPU is faster on the Steam Machine, and FSR4 is on RDNA3 now so the GPU being weaker is a bit of a moot point when you can upscale from 1080p like Valve specifically said on the spec sheet. This thread is full of retards who haven't looked at PC prices in years. Valve is selling this thing basically at cost, they can't sell at a loss because it is a PC and not a closed ecosystem where they would be guaranteed to make the money back on game sales.
I'm trying to find a recent interview but Valve had to legit talk about if they sold the Steam Machine at a loss people would be buying it to use as work stations instead of for actual gaming.
It just sucks all around due to the massive increase of price for PC parts when for the last 20 years PC parts have only gotten cheaper over time.
I genuinely don't understand who this is for.
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What kind of person wants an expensive hybrid that has the weaknesses of both PC and console but the strengths of neither?
The problem is that they wanted to make a super powerful little cube and then AI hyper scaling came into effect. They had to skimp on ram for this reason.
They actually should make a steam os Mac Studio competitor but everything is ridiculously priced until/unless these fucking Indian Chinese niggers that run these ai companies get defenestrated for ruining the personal computer dream made by the white man
Edit: I’m really excited actually to have a quiet HTPC/casual gaming thing like this. I can put it in a suitcase and use it in a hotel or at the office. It’s just as I said, a shame that hardware is about giant AI globalhomo and not personal computing anymore.
I wish I can laugh at my ex-friend who truly believed that Valve would make a device that'd be affordable to be compared to building a machine that's affordable. What a fucking retard. $1,050 for this? lol.
Seeing the price is really such a shame. This could have been the entry point for all the console couch-potatoes to actually get into PC gaming and all the freedom it has, but this is almost double the price of a base PS5 and that's without the controller. Even an elitist like me can see that's a hard sell.
I like the idea of being able emulate ps2 games on my tv but having to pay €1039 for device that has 512 GB storage really disappoints me, the only way I can see this box being sold at a fairer price is during holiday sales other than that you're paying for an over glorified mid gaming laptop
They actually should make a steam os Mac Studio competitor but everything is ridiculously priced until/unless these fucking Indian Chinese niggers that run these ai companies get defenestrated for ruining the personal computer dream made by the white man
What they should have done is expand on the steam deck idea, instead of letting lenovo, amd and microsaar just improve on their design several years later and then get fucked over because lol 4000 years of chinese AI.
I have a Steam Deck and it hooks up just fine to my TV with its 3rd party dock. It can play old games fine even at a 4k resolution and has controller support through USB. If I wanted to play the latest games at 4k 60/120fps, I'd have to pull out my main computer and run steam in big picture mode which runs fine now. In a worst case scenario, I'd slap SteamOS on it and avoid paying the $1000 tax. This steam machine idea is really trying to fill in a niche that doesn't exist anymore. We either play at the low end or high end level now. Valve should instead focus on having official support for Steam OS dual boot and integration of 3rd party applications like Epic, GOG, and anti cheat solutions.