Valve Introduces Steam Machine, Steam Frame, Steam Controller - Gabe Cube

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the fuck are you faggets coping about?
it seems fine to me?

all i hear is a bunch of faggy cuck bitching so i figure i'll do some actual research and have a look.
after doing some comparisons against US competitors like bestbuy and having AI do an analysis, i have concluded it's a pretty average deal, it's comparative to all the other pre builts in price and spec except at the tail end versons with the 2 terabyte version being too expensive compared to what you get by DIY'ing a computer.

So basically:
-fair price unless you buy all the extras
-made by valve (god tier hardware history)
-has steamOS which is linux and ive been using linux for a year now and steam proton just works, the only game i haven't been able to play is Rust and that's because gary is a nigger who blocks linux users from playing on official servers.
-plug into TV and play immediately
-no shitty windows
-no bloatware pre installed
-looks cool and my favorite console has always been the gamecube.

Again, this seems fine to me?
is it just that i'm not a turdworlder?
is it just that i understand pricing is never going to go back down and the inflation is permanent unlike people online?
I really don't get all the hate.
i buy a loaf of bread and 2 liters of milk and it costs me 12$, everything is fucked i just don't get how you faggets thought the price was going to be 700$ in today's pricing.
 
I desperately wish to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing the marketing strategy for this thing, to see which retard suggested they feature an obese nigger woman saying y'all, a tranny and a woman so ugly she might as well be a tranny as the centerpieces of their promo material.

Pretty indicative of the general IQ over at Valve.
 
Release now or never for the current hardware. Overpriced and underpowered. Xbox are releasing their own steam machine like console next year and Meta is releasing a gaming focused headset next year too. Delaying it further for the ram prices is impossible. Even if they subsidized with the costs now it would've sucked with supply issues. I think it will still sell out the supply they can get before the competition will swallow up its market.
I would just wait for the next generation of steam machines if they make them.
 
While component prices are obviously screwed Valve are at least partially to blame.

In the Gamers Nexus video they had a snipped with some valve guys talking about ram and they said something like "there are no contracts, the manufacturers offer a price and if we don't take it they just never call us again". Honestly I don't believe that, that's just not how big business is done.

What I speculate actually happened was valve didn't bother signing a long term contract, or buying enough stock at the time a year ago because they thought prices would remain stable. When shit hit the fan they probably tried to get something but at that point were told to pound sand.

Everyone gangsta with their just in time, spot price production until a black swan fucks them up.
 
Stasi dijo:
While component prices are obviously screwed Valve are at least partially to blame.

In the Gamers Nexus video they had a snipped with some valve guys talking about ram and they said something like "there are no contracts, the manufacturers offer a price and if we don't take it they just never call us again". Honestly I don't believe that, that's just not how big business is done.

What I speculate actually happened was valve didn't bother signing a long term contract, or buying enough stock at the time a year ago because they thought prices would remain stable. When shit hit the fan they probably tried to get something but at that point were told to pound sand.

Everyone gangsta with their just in time, spot price production until a black swan fucks them up.
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You'd think a private company like Valve would be knowledgeable on shit like this, but hey. Private or otherwise, a company is a company. They are bound to make retarded decisions no matter what.
 
2TB with controller - $1,428.. bloody hell!!

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Not a single reply debunking or disproving anything i said.
Are you faggets being paid to shill?
Fuck it.
I checked this as a buying argument, not a vibes argument. The hard conclusion is:
US market: Steam Machine 512GB is not the raw price/performance king because RTX 5060 towers exist at or below its price.
Australia/non-US market: Steam Machine 512GB looks much more defensible because local RTX 5060 prebuilts are usually around AU$1,699–$1,899, while the Steam Machine starts at AU$1,609.
The 2TB Steam Machine is the weak one. That is where it walks too close to proper RTX 5060 / RTX 5060 Ti prebuilts.

Steam Machine baseline​

Valve’s Steam Machine is sold in 512GB and 2TB versions. The official hardware page describes it as a SteamOS living-room machine with 512GB/2TB storage, microSD expansion, Wi-Fi 6E, Bluetooth 5.3, Ethernet, HDMI, DisplayPort, USB-C, and USB-A.
The important spec baseline is: 6-core/12-thread AMD Zen 4 CPU, semi-custom RDNA 3 GPU with 28 compute units, 8GB GDDR6 VRAM, 16GB DDR5 RAM, 512GB or 2TB NVMe SSD. Multiple tech outlets put the GPU around RX 7600 / RX 7600M-ish territory, with recent testing saying it lands just shy of a desktop RX 7600.
US pricing is US$1,049 for 512GB and US$1,349 for 2TB, controller not included.
Australian pricing is AU$1,609 for 512GB, AU$1,728 with controller, AU$2,109 for 2TB, and AU$2,228 with controller.

US comparison: Best Buy / Walmart / Newegg​

ProductPriceCore specsDelta vs Steam Machine 512GBWhat it proves
Steam Machine 512GBUS$1,049Zen 4 6c/12t, RDNA3 28CU, 8GB VRAM, 16GB RAM, 512GBBaselineGood small SteamOS appliance, not raw value king.
Newegg Stormcraft RTX 5060 desktopfrom US$899.99–$1,099.99 listing rangei5-14400F, RTX 5060, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe-$149 to +$51Shows US RTX 5060 towers can undercut or match the Steam Machine.
Best Buy CyberPowerPC RTX 5060US$999.99Intel Core 5 120, RTX 5060 8GB, 16GB DDR5, 1TB SSD-$49This is the cleanest anti-Steam-Machine raw-value example: cheaper, 1TB, RTX 5060.
Best Buy HP OMEN RTX 5060 TiUS$1,219.99i5-14400F, RTX 5060 Ti 8GB, 16GB DDR5, 1TB SSD+$171For $171 more than base Steam Machine, you get a stronger GPU tier and 1TB. It is also $129 cheaper than Steam Machine 2TB.
Walmart Skytech Nebula RTX 5060US$1,249.99Ryzen 7 5700, RTX 5060 8GB, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD+$201Not as cheap as Best Buy, but still below the 2TB Steam Machine.
Walmart iBUYPOWER RTX 5060 Ti listingUS$1,299.99Core Ultra 5 225F, RTX 5060 Ti 8GB, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe+$251Again: below the US$1,349 2TB Steam Machine while offering RTX 5060 Ti.
Best Buy Skytech KING95 RTX 5060US$1,349.99Core Ultra 7 265F, RTX 5060, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe+$301Basically the same price as Steam Machine 2TB, but as a normal Windows tower with stronger conventional PC specs.


US verdict​

In the US, the forum idiots have one legitimate argument: for pure FPS-per-dollar, the 512GB Steam Machine loses to some current RTX 5060 tower deals. The Best Buy CyberPowerPC at US$999.99 is the strongest example because it is cheaper than the Steam Machine and has RTX 5060 + 1TB SSD.
But the counterargument is also factual: a normal prebuilt is a Windows tower, not a compact Valve SteamOS console-PC. Steam Machine’s value is the appliance package: small form factor, SteamOS, controller-first UI, Proton setup, suspend/resume-style console behavior, no OEM bloatware, and Valve-controlled hardware/software integration. That is what you are paying for.
The 2TB Steam Machine is much harder to defend in the US. At US$1,349, it is sitting beside RTX 5060 towers and below/near RTX 5060 Ti tower deals. That model only makes sense if someone specifically wants the Valve box and refuses to upgrade storage themselves.

Australia / non-US comparison​

Here the Steam Machine looks better.
ProductPriceCore specsDelta vs Steam Machine 512GBWhat it proves
Steam Machine 512GBAU$1,609Zen 4 6c/12t, RDNA3 28CU, 8GB VRAM, 16GB RAM, 512GBBaselineIn Australia, this is actually competitive against local RTX 5060 towers.
Scorptec Forge RTX 5060AU$1,699Ryzen 5 5600, RTX 5060 8GB, 16GB DDR4, 1TB NVMe+$90Only $90 more than Steam Machine base, with RTX 5060 and 1TB, but weaker old AM4/DDR4 platform.
Scorptec Sentry RTX 5060AU$1,799i5-12400F, RTX 5060 8GB, 16GB 6000MHz RAM, 1TB NVMe+$190Better PC-style spec sheet, but still a tower and not a Valve appliance.
PLE Flow RTX 5060AU$1,899Ryzen 5 7500F, RTX 5060 8GB, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe+$290This is a more modern AM5/DDR5 comparison; Steam Machine base is meaningfully cheaper.
Scorptec Horizon RTX 5060AU$1,899Ryzen 5 7500F, RTX 5060 8GB, 16GB DDR5-6000, 1TB NVMe+$290Same story: better upgradable tower, but not cheaper than Steam Machine.
Steam Machine 2TBAU$2,109Same hardware, 2TB storage+$500 vs 512GB Steam MachineThe storage upcharge hurts.
Scorptec Willow RTX 5060 Ti 16GBAU$2,299Ryzen 7 5700X3D, RTX 5060 Ti 16GB, 32GB RAM, 1TB NVMe+$190 vs Steam 2TBFor only AU$190 more than Steam Machine 2TB, you jump to 5060 Ti 16GB and 32GB RAM.



Australia verdict​

In Australia, the Steam Machine 512GB is much easier to defend. It is AU$90 cheaper than the cheapest Scorptec RTX 5060 tower I found, and AU$290 cheaper than the more modern AM5/DDR5 RTX 5060 towers from PLE/Scorptec.
The AU$2,109 2TB Steam Machine is the bad-value point. Once you are near AU$2.1k–2.3k, you are sniffing around RTX 5060 Ti 16GB / 32GB RAM prebuilts, and those smash it as normal PCs.

Summary:
The base Steam Machine is not the best raw FPS-per-dollar box, but it is also not some insane ripoff. In the US, a cheap RTX 5060 prebuilt can be about $50–$150 cheaper or better-specced, but that is a normal Windows tower, not a small plug-and-play SteamOS box built to sit under your TV with a controller and no desktop bullshit. In Australia it looks even better, because similar RTX 5060 prebuilts are basically the same price, sometimes only around AU$10 cheaper. The 2TB model is weak value, but the 512GB Steam Machine is a fair couch-gaming appliance with a small convenience premium, not trash.


FUCK YOU I WAS RIGHT FUCK YOU I WAS RIGHT FUCK YOU I WAS RIGHT.

Not a single one of you worthless faggots can come up with a reason it's bad.
"Boohoo im a poor turdworlder and valve should have eaten the cost of the hardware and given it to me at a discount waaaaah" -thats you
Honestly it seems to be a much better deal for non US western countries than for US people directly, probably due to tarrifs/tax bullshit.
 
regalterry dijo:
I desperately wish to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing the marketing strategy for this thing, to see which retard suggested they feature an obese nigger woman saying y'all, a tranny and a woman so ugly she might as well be a tranny as the centerpieces of their promo material.

Pretty indicative of the general IQ over at Valve.
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Imagine how bad it'll be once Gaben croaks

Valve is going to go down in a fiery ball of flames
 
WULULULULU dijo:
You'd think a private company like Valve would be knowledgeable on shit like this, but hey. Private or otherwise, a company is a company. They are bound to make retarded decisions no matter what.
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At this stage I'm not sure anyone at valve has any real business acumen. Hell, they are using a gross tranny and a fat woman to market their gaming device. Great for Reddit updoots but probably not your core market as a videogame company.

They lucked into an effective market monopoly at the right time and held on to the position because of market inertia and incompetence from their competitors. Makes sense that when it comes to making businesses decisions in a challenging market they shit their pants, or at least moreso than your average corpo.
 
AI is telling me my PC is so old that schteam maschine would outperform it 3-4 times in every regard
but then suggests building a new PC in that price range instead since it outperforms the schteam maschine by 60-70%
 
Tyrannosaurus rex dijo:
the fuck are you faggets coping about?
it seems fine to me?

all i hear is a bunch of faggy cuck bitching so i figure i'll do some actual research and have a look.
after doing some comparisons against US competitors like bestbuy and having AI do an analysis, i have concluded it's a pretty average deal, it's comparative to all the other pre builts in price and spec except at the tail end versons with the 2 terabyte version being too expensive compared to what you get by DIY'ing a computer.

So basically:
-fair price unless you buy all the extras
-made by valve (god tier hardware history)
-has steamOS which is linux and ive been using linux for a year now and steam proton just works, the only game i haven't been able to play is Rust and that's because gary is a nigger who blocks linux users from playing on official servers.
-plug into TV and play immediately
-no shitty windows
-no bloatware pre installed
-looks cool and my favorite console has always been the gamecube.

Again, this seems fine to me?
is it just that i'm not a turdworlder?
is it just that i understand pricing is never going to go back down and the inflation is permanent unlike people online?
I really don't get all the hate.
i buy a loaf of bread and 2 liters of milk and it costs me 12$, everything is fucked i just don't get how you faggets thought the price was going to be 700$ in today's pricing.
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2edgy4me m8
 
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Give it to me straight fellas (no homo), is there any chance this price will ever come down? I'd been looking forward to the Gabecube but if I'm gonna spend north of a grand I feel like I may as well just buy/build a new PC.
 
Oliver Onions dijo:
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Give it to me straight fellas (no homo), is there any chance this price will ever come down? I'd been looking forward to the Gabecube but if I'm gonna spend north of a grand I feel like I may as well just buy/build a new PC.
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You could just wait for the SteamOS desktop experience to smooth out (plus Nvidia support if you want that).

The whole timing of it is really telling.
 
Gamepads dijo:
You could just wait for the SteamOS desktop experience to smooth out (plus Nvidia support if you want that).
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How long is that likely to take? I'm not in any rush to change my PC because I don't really use it for gaming any more, and I was planning to switch to Linux when I do finally take the leap because Windows 11 just keeps getting worse, but if SteamOS is a better alternative...
 
Oliver Onions dijo:
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Give it to me straight fellas (no homo), is there any chance this price will ever come down? I'd been looking forward to the Gabecube but if I'm gonna spend north of a grand I feel like I may as well just buy/build a new PC.
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My honest opinion? Never! Unless if humanity got fucked with another Covid-67 with a high lethality rate this time around and hopefully this will reverse the 2020 faggotary.
I wholeheartedly advise you - especially if you’re tight on money- to hold on buying the current shit because they are overpriced as fuck. We already have Three decades worth of retro video games and you can get them for dirt cheap or free if you know where to look.
Treasure whatever consoles / old PC you already own and take good care of them because it looks like it’s gonna be a long bumpy road.

1500$ … fucking hell
 
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