Valve Introduces Steam Machine, Steam Frame, Steam Controller - Gabe Cube

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over a thousand bananas for a barebones Gabecube. I have no patience left for AI bros, or the people whose intelligence can be best described as "raised by wolves / the homeless" who enable their antics. Having said that,
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Im trying to understand what the niche the steam machine is filling here
Is this trying to replace a desktop? If so why is it so expensive and for that memory size with no controller
Is it trying to replace consoles? Why is it more expensive than any of them and without a controller
Is it more powerful than a Steam deck? Why would anyone get a Steam Machine when a steam deck is a screen and controller built in

IDK what Valve is trying to do by selling this at that price without a way to interact with the damn thing in the box.
 
Im trying to understand what the niche the steam machine is filling here
Is this trying to replace a desktop? If so why is it so expensive and for that memory size with no controller
Is it trying to replace consoles? Why is it more expensive than any of them and without a controller
Is it more powerful than a Steam deck?

IDK what Valve is trying to do by selling this at that price without a way to interact with the damn thing in the box.
My guess is a little of both, and convenience of parts. Also, steam software if specialized to the specific valve hardware will probably be even more efficient, I think. But overall its a less compelling sell than steam deck, steam controller, or the steam vr.
 
According to GN most games run well only on 1080p and ultra low settings.
Most shitty unoptimized games*

Looking at the video he played a majority of games at 1080p ultra, and a bulk majority are unreal engine 5 slop.

The idea of the ONE and ONLY half life 3 running on 8gb of VRAM and a laptop GPU from a few years ago is a bit concerning.

There's already a novr mod for half life alyx to give a sense of what half life 3 could look like, and that was released years ago made for VR, meaning even older systems were supposed to pump 4k native at 90+ fps. CS2 community maps, for as unoptimized for a FPS as they are, are most of the time on par with other AAA games graphically, albeit a bit barren in terms of props.

You don't need raytracing or any other retarded shit unreal engine slops out to make a good looking game.

It's fairly likely that Valve is not paying the DIY price for parts, they're a gigantic company and buying at a scale that's going to drive those down, if even a little bit.

Big as a company, yes, big as a hardware company, hell no. At best they got a deal for maybe a quarter of the systems they produced before the ram shortage fucked them over when scrounging for a new deal. When even the biggest hardware companies are having shortages, you can expect everyone to be shoveling shit.
 
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To think that some years ago, the prices weren't that bad.......now the deck and steam machine are both massively expensive for what they give.
 
My guess is a little of both, and convenience of parts. Also, steam software if specialized to the specific valve hardware will probably be even more efficient, I think. But overall its a less compelling sell than steam deck, steam controller, or the steam vr.
True but, I really have to wonder what market there is for something like then when there is a massive world of secondhand PCs that would work just as fine for most games in existence for a far FAR better price

It may be better optimized for Valve software but would it be that much of a difference for the price point. $1K is a hell of a big ask for just the cube without a controller/mouse/keyboard come bundled with it
If you buy a steam deck or any used PC or used console I can guarantee itll come with all the parts needed to interact and use it without secondary purchases and (at the very least) work about on par with a Steam Machine if you get the right hardware for your specific needs

This is a bad move. Market is flooded with way cheaper options that are feature complete, Valve even sells products that come far cheaper and usable ASAP than this. IDK what consumers theyre looking for with such a high price
 
Im trying to understand what the niche the steam machine is filling here
Is this trying to replace a desktop? If so why is it so expensive and for that memory size with no controller
Is it trying to replace consoles? Why is it more expensive than any of them and without a controller
Is it more powerful than a Steam deck? Why would anyone get a Steam Machine when a steam deck is a screen and controller built in

IDK what Valve is trying to do by selling this at that price without a way to interact with the damn thing in the box.
It was supposed to compete with the consoles at $750 base

Then the rampocalypse happened right as they were sourcing prices and $750 was no longer viable, but they already announced the machine and specs so are now stuck at over $1k.

The current price is valve saying "we're fucked, might as well release it at a high price and cut our losses"
 
It was supposed to compete with the consoles at $750 base

Then the rampocalypse happened right as they were sourcing prices and $750 was no longer viable, but they already announced the machine and specs so are now stuck at over $1k.

The current price is valve saying "we're fucked, might as well release it at a high price and cut our losses"
Id say 750$ is still a big ask for a console like this.
Is this thing pretty high range in specs?

Im trying to wrap my head around this, do high specs really mean anything anymore? I remember 10-15 years ago bleeding edge meant having to change out every few years to be able to play games cleanly but now... IDK everything feels like the roof has been hit on what can be done and high end PCs of yesteryear are still viable and especially for the price

I think youre right but I can't imagine that outpricing consoles by several hundred dollars without controllers or keyboards etc etc is the right move.
 
It was supposed to compete with the consoles at $750 base

Then the rampocalypse happened right as they were sourcing prices and $750 was no longer viable, but they already announced the machine and specs so are now stuck at over $1k.

The current price is valve saying "we're fucked, might as well release it at a high price and cut our losses"
Its also worth noting for @One_True_Yuri that valve probably has less hardware connections than xbox sony or Nintendo. Meaning they kinda get worse deals anyway. The big 3 have connections for bulk orders of hardware, valve less so.

But yes, ram bs and everything else made it go from a compelling deal to a kinda shitty one. At 750 I'd buy no problem
 
Id say 750$ is still a big ask for a console like this.
Is this thing pretty high range in specs?

Im trying to wrap my head around this, do high specs really mean anything anymore? I remember 10-15 years ago bleeding edge meant having to change out every few years to be able to play games cleanly but now... IDK everything feels like the roof has been hit on what can be done and high end PCs of yesteryear are still viable and especially for the price

I think youre right but I can't imagine that outpricing consoles by several hundred dollars without controllers or keyboards etc etc is the right move.
$750 for a 512gb steam machine in 2025 would have been a really great deal because you get the ease of use of a console with the modability, functionality, and game library of a PC in a tiny form factor. It's a bit more than the consoles, but there's so much more you could do with it. Emulation, web browsing, video editing, using it as your main work PC, etc.

Now EVERYTHING is expensive, so high end gaming isn't worth it if you're getting into it for the first time.
 
My dad got a 2.1k pre built rig with an rtx 3060 TI in it in 2021. I was hoping for the machine to be a budget one but I'm realizing buying old or used hardware 10 years out of date seems to be the only sane way to go about getting a new pc.

A fucking gaming laptop would probably go further than this shit brick. Doesn't even have a controller. Lmao. What a failure.
 
What is the benefit of a steam machine as opposed to building your own mini PC? SteamOS?
Which I think you can install on your own.
It's small, and uhh.....you can move it around i guess and uhhh......you are stuck with a bordeline laptop hardware so no upgrades for you i guess lmao.

Valve already tried this garbage with the alienware alpha and the steam machines and even as the previous owner of one the only positive things i can say is that it was cheap and decently powered for it's time, but this isn't it.
 
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To think that some years ago, the prices weren't that bad.......now the deck and steam machine are both massively expensive for what they give.
Don't make me tap the sign retard. Gaming has always been overpriced, it's just our dollar that's waning in value and the stock circus holding up the house of cards while companies decide to bleed you dry.

Due to cumulative inflation, $200 in 2018 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $265.11 today.

Ps4 controllers aren't built to last like the prior generation controllers, and they've remained a steady 60 bucks and have risen in physical stores to as much as 90 if they're even in stock. You need a PS4 controller to operate the console. It's a worthless paperweight otherwise and idk if bootlegs work on it. Currently my PS4 has gathered dust since January this year when my 9 year old controller died for good.
 
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