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lets see them pass a law that outlaws transgender shit for kids. guess you need more than 8.
All they have to do is refuse to fund it and "transgender shit for kids" evaporates in a poof of bankruptcy.
For that, all they need is to keep funding bills from reaching the floor, by either having a speaker who answers to them, or ousting the speaker with motions to vacate the moment they see betrayal on the horizon.
 
So what's the over/under on Jim Jordan's candidacy?

Also don't assume that Gaetz support is just 8 rebels. That McCarthy after spending all day blustering about his planned return, walked away. That tells you the sheep are turning on him and the GOPe. Not enough to seize control. But enough to change the tone and structure of things.

The problem is the Washington/Federal GOP has no leader. Mitch is non compos mental. And McCarthy is unliked and was clearly weaker than most realized. The Pope is dying and the Cardinals are maneuvering for position to control the next Pope.
 
We'd love to give you free money, but those evil conservatives won't let us.
"Hey you know how you couldn't afford to put your kid through school? Good news! You're going to pay to put THEIR kid through school to get a useless degree in marxist genderace theory with a minor in hating you and plotting the destruction of your way of life. Congratulations! Vote for us (not that it matters, we count the votes)."
 
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Fuck Boebert and Gaetz.
Those "concessions" don't mean jack shit, and the fact they flipped before ousting McCarthy only shows that they're just as naive and spineless as Trump was in the same situation. In any case I eagerly await the start of this year's money printing spree for money laundering Ukraine. Let's see how many spending bills it takes to get to the tootsie-roll center of a new great depression.
Reminder McCarthy was only in to begin with because these tools fucking let him in.
 
Someone else has to be the one to invent metal Gear though. I'm not doing the gundam shit, we might end up with mechwarrior, or cthulutech if I tried that (also I have no degrees relevant to engineering anyways).
What about Metal Wolf instead? Can have the President in what is basically a low-tech AC facing off against a nanomachine-enhanced Senator for the fate of the nation.
You say it like a four-horse race between Biden, Kennedy, Trump and the nominal GOPe scapegoat wouldn't be entertaining as fuck. I endorse this option as the only chaos Kiwi path.
Wouldn't be the first one we've had. Of course, that one wound up causing the Civil War when the Democrats got pissy their guys lost, so... let's hope there's neither a rhyme nor a repeat.
They never mention why the dude got caned, only that he did. I wonder why 🤔
Its less about what he specifically said and more that it wasn't all that out of line for the time. Full text of the actual speech. Letting people know how tumultuous politics used to be might give them the wrong ideas. Ideas like it being okay to openly shittalk your opponents.

And here's how he started it off:
But, before entering upon the argument, I must say something of a general character, particularly in response to what has fallen from senators who have raised themselves to eminence on this floor in championship of human wrongs. I mean the senator from South Carolina, (Mr. BUTLER,) and the senator from Illinois, (Mr. DOUGLAS,) who, though unlike as Don Quixote and Sancho Panza, yet, like this couple, sally forth together in the same adventure. I regret much to miss the elder senator from his seat; but the cause, against which he has run a tilt with such activity of animosity, demands that the opportunity of exposing him should not be lost; and it is for the cause that I speak. The senator from South Carolina has read many books of chivalry, and believes himself a chivalrous knight with sentiments of honor and courage. Of course he has chosen a mistress to whom he has made his vows, and who, though ugly to others, is always lovely to him; though polluted in the sight of the world, is chaste in his sight — I mean the harlot, slavery. For her his tongue is always profuse in words. Let her be impeached in character, or any proposition made to shut her out from the extension of her wantonness, and no extravagance of manner or hardihood of assertion is then too great for this senator. The phrenzy of Don Quixote in behalf of his wench Dulcinea del Toboso is all surpassed. The asserted rights of slavery, which shock equality of all kinds, are cloaked by a fantastic claim of equality. If the slave States cannot enjoy what in mockery of the great fathers of the Republic, he misnames equality under the Constitution — in other words, the full power in the national Territories to compel fellow men to unpaid toil, to separate husband and wife, and to sell little children at the auction block — then, sir, the chivalric senator will conduct the State of South Carolina out of the Union! Heroic knight! Exalted senator! A Second Moses come for a second exodus!
 
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No real surprise they would ignore it. They are probably planning to rules lawyer it and insist it is a totally different thing.

I wanna see them defy SCOTUS. Open that can of worm Biden.
It is completely different. But yes rules lawyersy. Its a recalculation for people under income plans and how those have caps of 20 to 25 years. So people who have been paying for 20 years have gotten it.

This doesnt help younger people who need it the most and biden is most pandering too though.

Student loans is one of the rare times the right could outflank the dems and they dont. Something like "you can pull student loan payments from your check and it lowers your taxable income" would be fully aligned with republican ethos and provide some relief. But they dont.
 
Student loans is one of the rare times the right could outflank the dems and they dont. Something like "you can pull student loan payments from your check and it lowers your taxable income" would be fully aligned with republican ethos and provide some relief. But they dont.
Because the number of people in Washington who understand student loans or even basic economics can be counted on one hand.
 
Because the number of people in Washington who understand student loans or even basic economics can be counted on one hand.
Republicans view running the government as the Democrats' job. Problem in the student loan program? Elect Democrats if you want someone to do something about it, doing something is BIG GOVERNMENT.
 
So what's the over/under on Jim Jordan's candidacy?
Basically his for the taking barring further surprises. Gaetz has proven his willingness to burn the system to the ground and has the power necessary for it so it leaves the RINO crowd in a bind. Jordan was one of the names floated back in January so he meets the compromise candidate requirements.

The interesting bit will be how far Jordan (or whoever) decides to push Uniparty desires in light of this. Easy to talk of getting Republican Speakers to self-immolate so Ukrainian funding and continuing resolutions can keep getting passed, but primary season is fast approaching and most of the Rep caucus want to keep their jobs. Wouldn't be shocked if things settle into a proper gridlocked lame duck session until the election.
 
Reminder that the Continued Resolution passed in order to avert a government shutdown only lasts until next month so there is a high chance of the Speaker issue being resolved by then because if not things are going to be a mess.
 
Reminder that the Continued Resolution passed in order to avert a government shutdown only lasts until next month so there is a high chance of the Speaker issue being resolved by then because if not things are going to be a mess.
I don't consider "they can't add more to our debt" to be a mess. Remember, it's not "we can't pay our bills" it's "we can't take out more loans."

Let it stay vacant until 2024.
 
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