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Should be a wild four years.

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Democrats don't need to change anything, they just need a good old fashioned rebranding of their policies.

For example:
Change "free sex changes for prisoners" to "we're cutting the dick and balls off of criminals"
Change "we're letting criminal niggers go free" to "we're keeping the boys in blue employed"
Change "unlimited illegal immigration" to "Margarita Mondays, Taco Tuesdays, Wet Burrito Wednesdays, Tamale Thursdays, Fajitas Fridays, Sincronizadas Saturdays, Sope Sundays"
Change "abortions up until birth" to "allow women to abort their nigger rapists spawn" (might even get some R's to agree to post-birth abortion with this one)
Change "college debt forgiveness" to "fuck colleges and boomer's retirement funds"

They should have hired me instead of that fat spic bitch.
what did you do to the burrito to make it wet, you sick fuck
 
Alberta and Saskatchewan voted for the party that would let their economy thrive, everyone else voted for infinite gibs. Since Canada doesn’t have an electoral college, the votes of Alberta and Saskatchewan mean absolutely nothing. Thus, the country votes for the party that gives them infinite gibs. If the Liberals decided to 200% tax Albertans and give the money to welfare queens Alberta wouldn’t be able to vote against it. Alberta’s literally experiences something commonly called “taxation without representation”
While the America parallel of "taxation without representation" is apt, what I see even moreso is that this is almost the exact same set of circumstances that caused the Breakup of Yugoslavia (even the ethnic tensions!)

Hopefully we get a sequel to REMOVE KEBAB except this time it's REMOVE SAAR (or would it be REDEEM SAAR?)
 
You showed some jew faggot living in israel crying about qatar. Your inbred heeb ass wouldn't know "raw facts" if it sucked a baby dick like a mohel in front of you.

Don't you ever condescend to me and call me demoralized or I will start to get vicious with you.


I said i didn't trust it because of the source, i didn't call it a lie, you dishonest little bitch. Your word game faggotry doesn't work on me shlomo.


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I'm sick of all of it, but you refuse to even admit israel is doing the same fucking shit.
Ok you're big mad. What will YOU do about it? Because this isn't doing anything. Rate me whatever you want, but I'm seriously asking here.
 
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When I see someone today saying they actually want fascism, I get the feeling what they’re after is more like what happened in Ancient Rome sometimes where the term came from originally. The only noteworthy difference between communism and [modern] fascism comes down to facial hair.
Oh agreed. But that would just be American classical liberalism or capitalism. The Roman Republic was fascist indeed by the original definition. Granted even that version is idealized. But by the classical definition simply pledging your allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible(important word here), with liberty and justice for all. Would fit. As it is a classical fascist motto after all.
 
Oh agreed. But that would just be American classical liberalism or capitalism. The Roman Republic was fascist indeed by the original definition. Granted even that version is idealized. But by the classical definition simply pledging your allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible(important word here), with liberty and justice for all. Would fit. As it is a classical fascist motto after all.
Ideologically, there's actually no definition of what fascism is. It's not like communism where they wrote pages and pages and pages of socialist and communist theory. Fascism it's a mess. There is no set definition. The closest to " to pure modern fascism" (which is what most people are thinking of when they talk about fascism) isn't Nazi Germany; it's Mussolini's Italy. But even then there wasn't very clear ideological through line.

The only country I would say is a modern fascist state is probably China. But even then I'm only basing it off of the hypernationalism, the state aided economy, and the insistence of there always being an enemy.

But again, I've spent the time actually reading the theory. Most people probably haven't. I mean, have you ever attempted to read mine kamf. The most schizophrenic boring piece of literature I've ever read. Mussolini was right. It's a fucking shit show.

The only reason Nazis were able to actually grow to the size that they were or because they had tons of collaborators in the countries that they invaded.

And that's not to mention get that fascism is inherently defeatist ideology that doesn't seek to create but to replicate. And there's no one can truly replicate the past. They are just building off of falsehoods. Fascism only works as a populist ideology if your country is inherently weak. You know like you're Italy after world war I. It doesn't work for the United States which is the strongest power in the world.
 
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Realistically we should have had an economic crash multiple times ever since 2008 or so, but they kept devising more accounting tricks to postpone it. We're at a point where everything is on the verge of collapsing - heck Canada is literally about to fall apart - and the hard numbers indicate where we have reached a wall where the effort needed to keep everything running increases logarithmically. The boomers are retiring and exiting the workforce, and instead of training replacements they are importing fucking idiots that only know how to fake things, and we WILL have a jeetocalypse when the full ramifications of the many many jeet scams bear fruit and people realize how badly the companies have been rotted. The Democrats are literally putting communists in charge of major cities who then implement policies that rape their local economies. And COVID lockdowns severely harmed the economy and so much as been running on credit ever since - and those credit lines are due to renewals and will be at much higher interest rates.

Sure, people have been saying we would have a financial collapse soon for a long time, but it has literally never been this bad before. And i distinctly recall that ten years ago people would say everything would collapse within ten years, five years ago people were saying things would collapse within five years, and even now we're literally at the point that if something sneezes things will collapse in a chain reaction.
We would have had crashes but boomers in charge refused to let another happen in their lives. Hence them pushing it off until 2030.
In what world does anyone see the elites of Canada just letting their only cash-cow province, the only one that feeds the political machine that keeps them in power, walk away? Just shrug and say oh well, we did what we could. Good game Alberta, enjoy all that prosperity and freedom!
This is why I say Canada will never willingly allow Saskatchewan or Alberta to leave. China has also worked too hard to allow those cash cows to slip out of their grasp.
 
While the America parallel of "taxation without representation" is apt, what I see even moreso is that this is almost the exact same set of circumstances that caused the Breakup of Yugoslavia (even the ethnic tensions!)

Hopefully we get a sequel to REMOVE KEBAB except this time it's REMOVE SAAR (or would it be REDEEM SAAR?)
Redeem samosa
 
I have disagree shortly with above post. communism itself was not defined, same as the afterlife wasn't. (islam tried, but it's silly).

Marx never finished das Kapital. He only bashed existing things and set up a framework to 'socialism' (aka command economy hell DSA wants)
 
While the America parallel of "taxation without representation" is apt, what I see even moreso is that this is almost the exact same set of circumstances that caused the Breakup of Yugoslavia (even the ethnic tensions!)

Hopefully we get a sequel to REMOVE KEBAB except this time it's REMOVE SAAR (or would it be REDEEM SAAR?)
But it's vastly different. The United States tried the Independent states in a single Union under the article's confederation and it was a mess to say it lightly. Canada does not have that. It's an Anglo country, it's one unified culture effectively. One unified government effectively just copy pasted from England onto the mass of land that is Canada. The United States also at least on paper does not Grant the federal government that much power, and what power the federal government does have was delegated to it by the state representatives. At any point the states could say that they don't want to give the power to the feds. Canada doesn't have that.
 
Alberta and Saskatchewan voted for the party that would let their economy thrive, everyone else voted for infinite gibs. Since Canada doesn’t have an electoral college, the votes of Alberta and Saskatchewan mean absolutely nothing. Thus, the country votes for the party that gives them infinite gibs. If the Liberals decided to 200% tax Albertans and give the money to welfare queens Alberta wouldn’t be able to vote against it. Alberta’s literally experiences something commonly called “taxation without representation”
Secessionists in Canada should prepare for the possibility that the Canadian government may try to stop provinces from leaving by using the military.
 
I have disagree shortly with above post. communism itself was not defined, same as the afterlife wasn't. (islam tried, but it's silly).

Marx never finished das Kapital. He only bashed existing things and set up a framework to 'socialism' (aka command economy hell DSA wants)
Yeah but there's a set theory that was built off of it. It and it was Marx and Engle (sorry I'm using voice to text so things might be a bit weird), there is a central book, it's das Kapital and the Communist manifesto. The different types of socialism and fascism are still all rooted in the same ideological foundation that being Marx wrote up. If you look at fascism there really isn't a clear definition of what it is. All countries that said that were fascist had wildly different interpretations. The most pure is probably Italy and the least pure are the Germans.

Ideologically for example, according to the italians fascism is not inherently racist or antisemtic to the internal makeup of the country. But to the Germans that's all that matters the race . Not the nation but the larger global "race". But the problem is that fascism because it doesn't have an actual definition of what it is. Doesn't really define certain things. Like what is a nation? It's very simple. So it's this weird conglomeration of different beliefs, different ideologies and different local politics. But there's no way you could look at Nazi, Germany and Italy and Spain and say that they're all the political ideology. They aren't.

Take the Jews for example. In Germany, they were discarded and considered not German citizens despite them being well citizens. In Italy outside of German influence, Jews would not really persecuted. I mean Mussolini had a Jewish mistress. This is because the Jews were seen as integral part of Italy. I must stress only that I'm talking about the Jews that already lived in Italy and had lived in Italy for hundreds of years. They were fine because they participated and contributed to the state. But if you ask German they would say the opposite, even though German Jews were heavily involved in the state and heavily involved in fighting for the state.

This is a basic part of the ideology, are people who are minorities within the state, part of the state?

Communism says that every person is equal and disregards the state as an institution. This is the same under stalin or mao or lenin or Trotsky. But fascism has no set definition.
 
"Communism says that every person is equal and disregards the state as an institution. This is the same under stalin or mao or lenin or Trotsky. But fascism has no set definition."

communism 'says' that, but it's the exact same as any socialist system and ends up as a monarchist system, and usually a hereditary one. None of what you said applies irl at all to any 'socialist' or 'communist' system. It's all about taking material goods and sorting them to the top political leaders.
 
"Communism says that every person is equal and disregards the state as an institution. This is the same under stalin or mao or lenin or Trotsky. But fascism has no set definition."

communism 'says' that, but it's the exact same as any socialist system and ends up as a monarchist system, and usually a hereditary one. None of what you said applies irl at all to any 'socialist' or 'communist' system. It's all about taking material goods and sorting them to the top political leaders.
I am taking purely philosophically here. In reality, it's a completely different thing.

Was I not being clear about it? (Serious question not an attack).
 
I am taking purely philosophically here. In reality, it's a completely different thing.

Was I not being clear about it? (Serious question not an attack).
Well in theory, you can say anything I suppose. I understood your meaning, but even the theory of socialism to communism it is all insane materialism in the end.

It comes down to 'I don't have what you have. I want what you have. You didn't earn it. You don't deserve it. I'll take it from you.'.

That's all there is to it. All the rest is fluff.
 
Well in theory, you can say anything I suppose. I understood your meaning, but even the theory of socialism to communism it is all insane materialism in the end.

It comes down to 'I don't have what you have. I want what you have. You didn't earn it. You don't deserve it. I'll take it from you.'.

That's all there is to it. All the rest is fluff.
I think you are completely missing the point about what I was talking about.
 
I think you are completely missing the point about what I was talking about.
Maybe, I'm tired. It sounded like you're positing socialism as some sort of positive thing. That's a very bad move to open with and has to be stomped out entirely.

ETA: Remember, fascism and socialist economics are two sides of the same coin, The state runs the markets in both. Most people don't get that and want 'their state side' to run the command driven economy with 'their central planning' style which is the same. It could be a short term boost, very short term.
 
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