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Should be a wild four years.

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It’s capitalism with no risk of failure, which isn’t capitalism. Having to get bailed out by the government because the people you robbed aren’t paying you is socialism and those banker niggers should suffah for it. If I loaned an 18 year old $25k to get a gender studies degree and they didn’t pay me back I would be (rightfully) called retarded.
thats why in the current loan forgiveness setup its extremely circumstantial. The gender studies faggot needs to prove they are actually on welfare and cant work to save thier life.
 
Making student debt dischargable in bankruptcy would solve most of the problems.
100%. The only ways to really get out of it are to get on SSDI disability for a long time or die. It's kind of odd how it was one of Biden's big issues but even with a friendly congress the GOP actually fought it like hell. I'm against forgiveness because it's simply unfair to those that worked and paid off their debts. It's not like they'll get a refund. But bankruptcy should really be an option. It's one of those weird issues the dems go crazy on and never actually get done.
 
The vast majority of student loan debt is of the federal variety, only around approximately 10% are from private lenders. If it's forgiven to a great extent without any kind of reform then we'll be just back where we started after a period of time and the national deficit can take one for the team for the millionth time.
 
Bankruptcy with consequences is essential for a free-market economy. Loan forgiveness compelled by the gov't is the opposite. All those useless degrees would go away a lot quicker if lenders were on the hook for the losses when the borrower declares bankruptcy.
Nah I'm good I want the college boys to pay their debts that they took willingly and voluntarily

Should've got a trade if you didn't want to be "on the hook" for insane amounts of money you chose to borrow yourself (I'm speaking rhetorically of course, I have no idea if you're a college boy)
 
Nah I'm good I want the college boys to pay their debts that they took willingly and voluntarily

Should've got a trade if you didn't want to be "on the hook" for insane amounts of money you chose to borrow yourself (I'm speaking rhetorically of course, I have no idea if you're a college boy or money-man)
Every other loan is dischargable in bankruptcy and all those people took them out willingly and voluntarily. Bankruptcies aren't painless.
 
As a former college boy who paid off his loans like a good little drone, if student loans get forgiven I demand recompense. And not just equal to what the retards who thought loans were free money got, they're retarded and are getting a safety net. I want something that says "Yo, this guy did it right."
 
The best way to ensure a generation of Bolsheviks is to tell the youth that have legitimate economic grievances to get fucked and that it's their own fault.
There's really not a great solution that doesn't involve a lot of pain and a pissed off segment of the electorate. The only thing that's certain is that whatever is the least painful choice now but many more times painful in the future will be what will happen.
 
Every other loan is dischargable in bankruptcy and all those people took them out willingly and voluntarily. Bankruptcies aren't painless.
Student loans are often times several orders larger than even a car loan, only outmatched in most peoples' lives by a home loan. It's also the first loan most peoples' monkey asses take, and they need to learn the lesson, especially non-Whites, who make up a majority of people taking student loans these days.

In the case of a home loan there's some recourse, if you are behind your payments and you try to discharge a home loan, you can end up losing the house, even though it is avoidable. With university? There are no such similar consequences, so the idea it's painful is a joke, and academia is a bourgeois endeavour to begin with. Maybe you shouldn't have undertaken it.

Pay your fucking debts or don't take debt to begin with. I'm sick of nigger-brained people who think there's always a way out for them. Do what you're supposed to. Have some dignitas. What you are "supposed" to do matters, and I'm tired of acting like it doesn't.
 
The best way to ensure a generation of Bolsheviks is to tell the youth that have legitimate economic grievances to get fucked and that it's their own fault.
i can't fault college age kids that were sold a bill of goods their entire lives and then made a stupid decision, even if some of them are blue haired fags that i don't personally like. i did a lot of retarded shit when i was that age so i get the whole undeveloped brain argument. the greater point is that saddling these tards with unpayable no bankruptcy debt hurts our country. why do you think half these morons love communism so much?

everyone loves to complain about lack of white birth rate in this country but when the cards are on the table and we start talking about why its happening nobody wants to hear it.
 
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The best way to ensure a generation of Bolsheviks is to tell the youth that have legitimate economic grievances to get fucked and that it's their own fault.
Yeah I'm sure cowtowing to leftists and brownoids screaming for free shit is how we defeat communism.

Are you really this stupid or just that salty you have to walk the path you chose? You should wish for nothing to be different, Last Man.
 
Pay your fucking debts or don't take debt to begin with.
A man sticks a gun in your face and tells you if you don't hand over your wallet he will shoot you.

You're 16. You don't know it's not a real gun.
You don't know he won't chase you.
But every available indication says if you don't proceed your life is over.

Should the tax payer reimburse you for your stolen wallet? No, but the police should arrest the mugger and have your wallet returned.
 
A man sticks a gun in your face and tells you if you don't hand over your wallet he will shoot you.

You're 16. You don't know it's not a real gun.
You don't know he won't chase you.
But every available indication says if you don't proceed your life is over.

Should the tax payer reimburse you for your stolen wallet? No, but the police should arrest the mugger and have your wallet returned.
No one stuck a gun in your face. Freedom derives from the market, and if you're protected from your own decisions and consequences as a market actor, you have no freedom.

If you don't like it, then America is not the place for you my boy. Go move to the human zoo we call Europe. You know, the bubblewrap kingdom.
 
As a former college boy who paid off his loans like a good little drone, if student loans get forgiven I demand recompense. And not just equal to what the retards who thought loans were free money got, they're retarded and are getting a safety net. I want something that says "Yo, this guy did it right."
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As someone in a similar boat, I think the best solution wouldn't require tax payers footing the bill. Federal loans? Those go to no interest, and all payments can be claimed on your taxes. (still deduct checks if left unpaid though) Private loans? Either a similar system, or just discharge them forcing the banks to eat it. Outright illegalize future student loans regardless of how we handle those that remain.
 
Yeah I'm sure cowtowing to leftists and brownoids screaming for free shit is how we defeat communism.

Are you really this stupid or just that salty you have to walk the path you chose? You should wish for nothing to be different, Last Man.
i feel like you're not understanding the point
 
Zoomer's grew up thinking Uncle Bernie was gonna come in and forgive all the debts so they didn't actually have to worry about it.
But that world is dead, MAGA beat it on the occipital bone with a hammer, and it is never going to come.
 
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