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Should be a wild four years.

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The idea of limiting suffrage is nice in a vacuum but in reality it creates a clear pressure point the commies will rally on and as such turn the disenfranchised into loyal foot soldiers and voters later on.
The solution is not less suffrage, it's more suffrage. Instead of one vote per person you could instead give more votes for people who pay taxes, for people who own land, for people who have children. My pie in the sky idea is one vote per household, multiplied and added to depending how much they would contribute to society, that way the argument of X Y or Z can't vote is muted, since in theory they can vote they just need to do something.
I have doubts about the effectiveness of this plan.

They'd still rally against the plural-voting "kulaks," and they'd just use the same tired anti-capitalist tropes they already use (and not always unjustly, c-suite America and trust-fund America both need smacked down, too) for successful white people to do so. "They only get more votes because they exploited everyone!" So, same shit, different day in the end. The takers always resent the makers. This plan isn't going to change that in any meaningful way that I can see.

Also, this would feed the "generational wealth built by success only to be squandered by the resulting sheltered community college commie nepobaby spawn."
Again, same shit, different day.

You'd have to fundamentally alter the socio-economic and family structure of America to make it work. Might as well have the commies.

But it's late, I'm tired, and just rather cynical tonight.
 
What the fuck is he even crying about?
Gang members getting shot doesn’t hurt the Latino community, gang members being alive does. He should be celebrating that two got taken out and hope they the entire gang population gets shot next.
It's not going to get any better. You know that.

As I read your post , she sent this

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“How can I trust you’re right if you won’t assume that you might be wrong?”
 
Has there ever been a case in history where an entire culture committed suicide as enthusiastically as Hollywood? I'm trying to think of a similar example to what Hollywood did to itself, but nothing comes to mind.

This motherfucker looks like Lowtax!
Lol, are you just unfamiliar with jews in general?

"Listen here, brother - if I got pinned clean in the middle of the ring 109 times in a row, wouldn't you say it's the Hulkster's fault?"

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I have doubts about the effectiveness of this plan.

They'd still rally against the plural-voting "kulaks," and they'd just use the same tired anti-capitalist tropes they already use (and not always unjustly, c-suite America and trust-fund America both need smacked down, too) for successful white people to do so. "They only get more votes because they exploited everyone!" So, same shit, different day in the end. The takers always resent the makers. This plan isn't going to change that in any meaningful way that I can see.

Also, this would feed the "generational wealth built by success only to be squandered by the resulting sheltered community college commie nepobaby spawn."
Again, same shit, different day.

But it's late, I'm tired, and just rather cynical tonight.
Except nowhere did I say it was inherited, it's per household, you move out you are now part of a different household. It was a throw away post but the idea is that you reward people for what they achieve and punish them for what they screw up. That's the part I didn't mention but once you tie voting power to the people who most have something to lose in society you can more easily do things like push tough on crime bills and reinforce broken window policies, you don't win against the commie by just voting against them you win by making their whole ideology pointless and starved of actors by imprisoning them at the first time they cross the line into actions.
I mean I am sure there would be lizard brained people that would marry, buy a home and have kids just for extra vote but I'm not sure how many would go that far. And sure they can muster and complain, but the idea is that you create a gap between when the commie is trying to amass power and when they can use power to smite them. And sure such a system can fail, everything can fail and die but I do not see universal suffrage as implemented working out and looking back in history limited suffrage is just a stepping stone to universal suffrage, you might as well skip the limited and just drop suffrage all together instead of time warping to the 1800s.
 
My IRL friend group has members from all four quadrants of the political compass. We've mostly agreed to stop talking politics because we know we're not gonna change each other's minds, and we value our friendship more.

It also doesn't prevent us from calling each other faggots, Jews, retards, and a whole host of other slurs.
I've come to this agreement with a few friends on some of these issues. I think the biggest mindfuck for me is that people share shit with no desire to ensure what they're sharing is correct. Like if I mistakenly believed some ICE agent just murdered some woman for existing, I'd want to be corrected that she actually rammed her car into a fed. It's such a disconnect for me that people prefer their invented narrative to be protected over anything. It's like their cognitive dissonance can't be resolved by simply accepting new information and reorienting their beliefs (especially among the left).
the left is honestly a massive brainrot virus that completely erodes any sort of common sense. From trans to ICE shit they have completely lost thier connection to reality.
It's unreal. I try to understand it and can't. I rationalize that women are terrified and the left frames everything evil as "right-wing." It's comforting having a "bad guy" package to root against. When you believe letting illegals in and all the other gay shit they do is good, it affirms they're the "good guys." Men like women so they silently abide or are retarded themselves.

IDK, man. It's puzzling. I'm going to sperg rant for a second here with unimportant rambling.
Without sounding like a total cocksucker, my IQ is around 135, I think. I took the multi-day test as a teen with a psychometrician/psychologist. My results correlate with the Mensa progressive matrices I've taken as an adult, so I think it's accurate. 135 is nothing amazing; many here are higher, I'm sure. I mention this shit because reading psychometrics lately blew my mind at shit I never recognized.

Throughout my life, I've struggled getting people to understand concepts simple to me. It frustrated me that no amount of references/data/explaining made them understand. The average white IQ is 100. It's theorized that with a 2 standard deviation gap (30 points), communication breakdown is likely when explaining "complex" concepts. The higher IQ (HIQ) person speaks another language to the lower IQ person (LIQ).*

Conversely, LIQ's suggestions are often steps instantly ruled out by HIQ as irrelevant. Explaining this is impossible to LIQ because ruling out their best strategy instantly is like black magic. They genuinely can't conceive of the abstract thinking taking place that quickly lets you jump ahead and invalidate their strategy in seconds. They simply don't have these shortcuts available.

So they think HIQ is an idiot for dismissing their input "without even thinking about it." This breeds resentment where LIQ regards HIQ as an egotistical know-it-all. If HIQ's approach yields positive results, LIQ believes they merely guessed correctly since HIQ ignored such obvious first steps. If HIQ's approach results in a poor result, LIQ believes he's proven right, ignorant to the flaws in result-oriented thinking. The idea that optimal strategy frequently results in less-than-stellar outcomes is lost on LIQ, but not HIQ. Thus, HIQ correctly defends the "losing play" as the correct one, reinforcing to LIQ that HIQ is a confused, stubborn idiot.

*I always thought, "I just need to prepare the data differently or find a more analogous scenario." But it's a hardware issue; people of average intelligence cannot juggle the variables required to understand certain connections. This 2xSD gap between boss and subordinate is often recognized as detrimental because LIQ workers can't understand HIQ leader's strategy and lose faith in his leadership. College professors do best when they're a bit closer to the students IQ range, too.

Similarly, for LIQ (at certain ranges), there's no difference between what is true and what is claimed true. If everybody agrees it's true, that's truth. Rooted in the need for social cohesion—which makes sense—it affects women most. They'll especially lash out when you differ from group consensus on issues that can harm the "marginalized." Pointing out reality to them, especially showing their support for a cause actually harms people (especially women), is never well-received. It's not taken as helpful information to recalibrate their concern, but an attack on them as a person (or an admission of your own moral deficits).

It's never received as a friendly, "Your data is incorrect, resulting in your compassion being misdirected. But here is better information for you." It's either, "You are dumb for believing this shit" or, "I'm someone who lacks compassion for the cause you support." LIQ will find it unreal that you can't see what's obvious to them ("Hey, trans-women are 'women' and deserve compassion!"); HIQ are no different ("Sure, but they're actually men and will still murder you. Without a falsifiable test on who is who who isn't 'trans', you're providing a loophole for Ted Bundy to join you in the bathroom stall. Why don't you get this?"). It's just a breakdown I never considered is often linked to actual cognitive capabilities, not stubbornness on their end.

To me, it's absurd not to fact-check and put effort into knowing what is true. Being corrected is never frustrating or an ego-check for me. It's someone providing me the opportunity to be correct. It's wonderful. Realizing most people are incapable of researching properly was a hard pill to swallow. But now I'm hit with the reality that many literally can't recognize truth is independent of what everybody asserts as truth? JFC.

No wonder telling my friends that "men aren't women" is a monkey wrench into their belief system. "If 'trans people don't exist', why do doctors and scientists overwhelmingly say so?" Fucking radical leftist ideologues, man.
 
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I don’t know what the fuck is wrong with you guys. If Jesus was like, “I order you to eat me and commune with me,” I’m personally not too good for Jesus

Like, are you really good with your religion, or only the choicest bits? Like you need the honey barbecue dipping sauce or you’re not eating your nuggets?

I’m not saying it pleasantly because you shouldn’t need it made pleasant for you
Your misunderstanding (intentional) led to one of my favorite radio bits. Phil Hendrie a voice actor who had a fake talk radio show where each segment he plays a guest or guests who call in that he voices with a problem or issue and as himself the straight host but has real callers who call in to argue. In it, a black woman (played by Phil) goes on the show to complain about the cannibals in her church wanting to eat Jesus. A real priest calls in to correct her as she starts to talk about how the Catholics “macked on her boy, a negro smorisgborg, the Catholics are about a brother buffet, where it’s all you can eat negro.” He breaks character laughing as it just got too ridiculous and then tells the callers the last guest was fake but the next one will be real.

 
As I read your post , she sent this

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“How can I trust you’re right if you won’t assume that you might be wrong?”
She is projecting at this point.
She is soft admitting that she has doubts but doesn't want to admit them until you admit to being equally weak minded as her so she doesn't feel lesser for having been taken by the flow of left wing bullshit.
 
What the fuck is he even crying about?
Gang members getting shot doesn’t hurt the Latino community, gang members being alive does. He should be celebrating that two got taken out and hope they the entire gang population gets shot next.


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“How can I trust you’re right if you won’t assume that you might be wrong?”
Idk how old you are but a good lesson for life: some people learn by information, most people learn by emotion. After she saw the video and continued arguing with her, you know what category to put her in and treat her accordingly but wasting your time for 14 hours on something as cut and dry as this, WHEN SHE HIT HIM WITH HER CAR, is a complete waste of time. Thats a LMFAO bottom text meme moment and keep it pushing. Calling her an idiot for still arguing with you would have done more to change her mind than what you've been doing.
 
I don't think that waiting for the most right-leaning generation of voters to die off is a good strategy before we start fighting back against leftoids.
He's a zoomer retard who thinks the Grand Society of Xers had a meeting so he couldn't get a job at Kroger, and has no idea who created 90% of all redpill material he barely understands.

Instead of Xers being the first generation to walk away from mainstream media and embrace the internet they largely created the culture of, he thinks his generation is le main character, despite their only cultural creation being brainrot and skinwalking earlier culture.

Even millennials I guess had emo and hipster bands. A lot of zoomers are staring down 30 and their generation hasn't done anything of note yet. Name one I'm supposed to be impressed by.

Don't worry, they'll just blame it on their elders, like a trve trad chad would. Agency, like personal responsibilty and generally being worth a damn, is only for them to complain about others not displaying, you see.
 
Idk how old you are but a good lesson for life: some people learn by information, most people learn by emotion. After she saw the video and continued arguing with her, you know what category to put her in and treat her accordingly but wasting your time for 14 hours on something as cut and dry as this, WHEN SHE HIT HIM WITH HER CAR, is a complete waste of time. Thats a LMFAO bottom text meme moment and keep it pushing. Calling her an idiot for still arguing with you would have done more to change her mind than what you've been doing.
Bro, I’ve been on this site longer than you, how young could I possibly be?

She is projecting at this point.
She is soft admitting that she has doubts but doesn't want to admit them until you admit to being equally weak minded as her so she doesn't feel lesser for having been taken by the flow of left wing bullshit.

Just call it. Move on. I’ve already lost one friend over TDS, and I tried to be polite to her, but in the end it was obvious she hated me and everything I stood for. It wasn’t worth staying in touch.

The convo ended with a “you aren’t skeptical enough, and you don’t understand, goodnight.” Lol

Frankly it’s a favor to me because I had long stopped wanting to talk to this friend but was too nice to tell her to fuck off
 
you move out you are now part of a different household
Yep. You've clearly thought this through.

So, right back to a single vote. And this implies no building generational wealth. I don't see how this is actually workable and sustainable for more than a few generations.

How does this improve the "takers versus makers" problem. Because that is essentially the core of the commie problem. Those European megalomaniacs aren't exactly wrong when they talk about the "useless eater" problem.

Well, that, and the arrogant belief that you can simply legislate human nature away. But that's not unique to commies, they've simply cornered the market and monopolized it (haha i made a funny!) for the last couple of centuries.
 
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