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Current "AI" is just a marketing term. It is nothing more than a word guesser. It has no understanding of anything it receives or puts out. It will never become advanced in the way Hollywood makes it look.
It has no chance of becoming a real AI
Watch 2001. It's far beyond that now. Even in that they didn't know, and I'm not sure at what point the qualia of consciousness can be communicated even between humans.
 
Watch 2001. It's far beyond that now. Even in that they didn't know, and I'm not sure at what point the qualia of consciousness can be communicated even between humans.

I'm not sure if you are actually retarded. You used a old movie as an example of AGI, proving that LLM only use the "AI" tag because it seems more powerful than it actually is to people who think LLMs are anything like HAL
 
I'm not sure if you are actually retarded. You used a old movie as an example of AGI, proving that LLM only use the "AI" tag because it seems more powerful than it actually is to people who think LLMs are anything like HAL
Well, just saying HAL 9000 was the fictional 'example' and Spielberg's AI. Good movies, but they're both quickly being eclipsed now by the reality of it all. AI stagnated to Eliza or Soundblaster's Parrot thing for ages. Now it's suddenly accelerating quite fast. I guess if you want to deny that it's making leaps and bounds ok.

It's still probably about a term that you were saying that I doubt you understand or know though, 'qualia'. when it comes to if things 'think' or 'experience' similar to human minds.

In historic terms, it's always been that machines 'can't approach human levels' when it comes to math, then they did, then chess, then whatever now. It's coming, just realize it.

And to add to it, can you as a non-drugged person qualify this:


Humans are very stupid but complex animals, that I think will be gratefully able to not fall for the chemo-drug thing of pot and LSD type drugs to be idiots.
 
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Well, just saying HAL 9000 was the fictional 'example' and Spielberg's AI. Good movies, but they're both quickly being eclipsed now by the reality of it all. AI stagnated to Eliza or Soundblaster's Parrot thing for ages. Now it's suddenly accelerating quite fast. I guess if you want to deny that it's making leaps and bounds ok.

It's still probably about a term that you were saying that I doubt you understand or know though, 'qualia'. when it comes to if things 'think' or 'experience' similar to human minds.

In historic terms, it's always been that machines 'can't approach human levels' when it comes to math, then they did, then chess, then whatever now. It's coming, just realize it.

Give an actual example that isn't a work of fiction or marketing buzz.

How does a LLM understand anything?

Chess solvers aren't agi. Chess computers would have beat humans with just the advancement of processing power. Are you saying Deep blue would eventually develop a consciousness?
 
Give an actual example that isn't a work of fiction or marketing buzz.

How does a LLM understand anything?

Chess solvers aren't agi. Chess computers would have beat humans with just the advancement of processing power. Are you saying Deep blue would eventually develop a consciousness?
Can a bacteria end up developing a consciousness? Seems to have happened though, and those things sure are less advanced than single cell things at the time than a modern computer. The problem is it takes millions and billions of years for biology what might take 100 for humans to produce with tech to do the same.

The problem is, if in the end, if we believe in a true soul that's unique to advanced life. Is there some 'soul' that 'understands' more than a computer can play chess well? I've seen a lot of evidence that many humans are far lower beings than modern AI, especially when addicted to weed and other drugs.
 
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No

People like you are the reason there is an AI bubble right now
Yeah, but the bacteria evolved to it. We're force evolving the AI/computer tech much, much faster.. Maybe in decades now faster. If you believe in evolution, the bacteria did turn into human full consciousness. We're moving that bar with computers on our own now.
 
We're force evolving the AI/computer tech much, much faster
I ve been trying to follow this shit.

Its my understanding that conventional wisdom was that you cant train a huuug data sex because the model will just memorize the data set.

Some researcher did just that and we got ChatGPT 1.

The problem is that with each increase in Data and computational power you not getting the same leap in improvements.

Other poster here pointed out the reason for the gold rush in AI is that if you can reach the goal of true AI and get a system that can improve and build future versions of itself, its a fucking game changer, winner situtation.

But even if you fail you still have that data centers that can be used for other things, so its basically making some money vs making lottery money, thats why everyone is running to it.
 
I ve been trying to follow this shit.

Its my understanding that conventional wisdom was that you cant train a huuug data sex because the model will just memorize the data set.

Some researcher did just that and we got ChatGPT 1.

The problem is that with each increase in Data and computational power you not getting the same leap in improvements.

Other poster here pointed out the reason for the gold rush in AI is that if you can reach the goal of true AI and get a system that can improve and build future versions of itself, its a fucking game changer, winner situtation.

But even if you fail you still have that data centers that can be used for other things, so its basically making some money vs making lottery money, thats why everyone is running to it.
I suppose, I think there will be more and more AI needs than just search engines. We'll have all Disney type writers, and eventually all the rest, go to AI. All service things to go AI. It's a matter of tine and there's tons of denials. The good thing is all the pajeets 'services' will go eventually too.
 
TLDR: Chink "research student" Li was being paid by the CCP while working at UofT for the NIH and took 90GB of data with him when he attempted to fly home.
so.. espionage is executable in America, no? I mean the Rosenberg's died cause of it.
 
Thanks. Randomly lost control of steering at like 30mph, car spun out and crashed through a concrete fence and went downhill into a brick wall. I am extremely sore, but I have no actual injuries, and no one was involved, there were no cars on the road, so outside of that one section of fence there wasn’t any other damage. I didn’t even get a ticket which is nice. The downside is now I need to find a new car, and the holiday weekend means I’m not getting the insurance payout until after all the deals end
What sorta car are you looking to get? used Toyota, Fords?
 
He crashed and the vehicle went up in flames. That's a real bummer. But you don't need to cook up a weak reason to add to a list of already valid reasons not to buy one of these.

Your gasoline-powered car will also burn you alive if you crash it. Arguing the literal degrees of the fire is meaningless.
 
He crashed and the vehicle went up in flames. That's a real bummer. But you don't need to cook up a weak reason to add to a list of already valid reasons not to buy one of these.

Your gasoline-powered car will also burn you alive if you crash it. Arguing the literal degrees of the fire is meaningless.
Yes, but the gas powered car doors will still open when the 12V service battery goes off-line. To be fair my electric car doors also work in that case, but it's not Chinese or Tesla.
 
The left hates families in general; just look at what these major movements push for in the form of pushing homo trash and adjacent things like hating homeschooling and traditional roles of men and women in society/aggressively pushing Feminism.
Breaking down the nuclear family, and "decolonization" and White replacement are all jammed together in a very insidious way. That is the goal of a large section of the left, and it's all this gay race communism.
 
so.. espionage is executable in America, no? I mean the Rosenberg's died cause of it.

There is a less then zero chance the Feds off this Chink, the risk with Chairman Meow doing something stupid in return is just too high. Nah, he will get a slap on the wrist and a deport order ASAP.

Which for this Chink is probably a death sentence, he'll end up in a camp of some sort no doubt. The Chairman doesn't approve of failure after all and examples must be made.
 
Breaking down the nuclear family, and "decolonization" and White replacement are all jammed together in a very insidious way. That is the goal of a large section of the left, and it's all this gay race communism.
At this point, much of it is just being perpetuated by seething lefties who are mad that their parents want them to get real jobs and do things with their lives, and don't think farming instagram likes on spiritual crystalposting is an acceptable lifestyle choice. Permanent childhood is why these people are racing to tear apart families, they wanna be the kid of the house with no responsible parent to lord over them.

Sure, many things are being utilized towards higher goals, but most issues start at a root of people being retarded, and the outcomes are just being coopted.
 
Breaking down the nuclear family, and "decolonization" and White replacement are all jammed together in a very insidious way. That is the goal of a large section of the left, and it's all this gay race communism.
All of that stuff roots back to Marxism, which came from the Jacobins, who had a lot of their ideas spawn from esoteric/Masonic anti-Christian pagan stuff. And it's not like this stuff is hidden in some dark corner, WEF Globalist types openly talk about things like what you and I are talking about, and nobody in the Masses bothers to pay attention when they tell you these things out in the open. Also take note of how the useful idiots in lefty political parties in Western countries try to pass Feminist laws removing fathers from taking a role in their kids lives; remove the men who can protect their families and actually be assertive/push back, all you have left are defenseless children along with the remaining women who they can manipulate emotionally.

Having one race of people would make the masses easier to control - no sense of ethnic and cultural differences, just one people who have erased all notions of nationalism and everything which would go along with that. Just keep the masses nice and docile, put in all the emotional checks and balances and pacify them with movies trying to paint actual Feds as the good guys and people opposed to Globalism as evil racist terrorists.
 
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