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Have you niggas heard of the concept of ethnogenesis, where ethnic groups form? Usually, when there is pressure from the other, related groups start melding together into one block, these normally then go hyperaggressive after the other is defeated. It's interesting how White people in the US are getting aggressive and seem to be a lot more similar than before.
 
I don't know about you, but when I was 14, roughly a high school freshman, if I managed to get into the pants of a hot female teacher, I would be pretty stoked, and pretty shocked to find out that she was the one in trouble. On the other hand, if a male teacher got with a female student, I would have found that to be pretty fucked up. Because the two things are not the same.

Are you going to tell me that it's the exact same thing if the sexes were swapped? Do you seriously believe that gender is just a social construct and at their core humans are sexless androgynous things like yourself who are subject to the exact same traumas and psychological and social and hormonal pressures? Do you have an actual point to make?

Or are you just an autistic legalist who can safely be dismissed?
We dismiss the opinions of 14-year-olds because they are stupid and immature with no realization of consequences. 14-year-olds also think it is cool to do drugs, drink, and emulate what they see on TV because they cannot tell the difference between reality and entertainment.

Any male 14-year-old would have enjoyed this, but that's not the point. The point is that you can be victimized while still enjoying the problematic activity. Somehow people understand this when it comes to girls but have a complete blind side when it comes to boys because of preconceived societal notions. It used to be the case in medieval Europe that women were considered the sexually aggressive sex. In that context, you would be arguing that a hypothetical teenage girl enjoyed it because it's the same exact scenario.
 
Qatar is still pouring money into the Muslim brotherhood and their state media supports Hamas.
And Israel supported Hamas, so we should cut off diplomatic relations with them then?

You hate Qatar because they don't like Israel, but American-Americans don't give a shit about either country and would prefer to have neutral-to-positive relations with both.
 
but when I was 14, roughly a high school freshman, if I managed to get into the pants of a hot female teacher, I would be pretty stoked, and pretty shocked to find out that she was the one in trouble
I actually agree that we have a one size fit all mentality where we justify aoc applied equally based on the false idea men and women react the same.

But it should still be 18, at least ,for both. What if you found out you got that teacher pregnant? What if she used those temporary good feelings to groom you for marriage and you're with someone when you're 30 who's now 54 and you never tried to meet anyone else? And she's also not particularly compatible

So yeah on the physical side boys might deal with that better but certainly not any of the actual emotional components of it, which from the fact that's never even brought up makes me think they'd deal worse with that then girls who have thought of that side of things

Edit I use long term examples but even if it's one and done the boy still can't accurately know the weight of what they're doing and it still shouldn't be done
 
We dismiss the opinions of 14-year-olds because they are stupid and immature with no realization of consequences. 14-year-olds also think it is cool to do drugs, drink, and emulate what they see on TV because they cannot tell the difference between reality and entertainment.

Any male 14-year-old would have enjoyed this, but that's not the point. The point is that you can be victimized while still enjoying the problematic activity. Somehow people understand this when it comes to girls but have a complete blind side when it comes to boys because of preconceived societal notions. It used to be the case in medieval Europe that women were considered the sexually aggressive sex. In that context, you would be arguing that a hypothetical teenage girl enjoyed it because it's the same exact scenario.
And there's already been research showing boys are equally harmed by molestation and rape including when the rapist is female.

Not to mention actual boys who were coaxed into relationships with their teacher saying themselves that while it was exciting in the moment they ultimately felt taken advantage of,manipulated, and used after maturing a bit more, and had issues with developing healthy relationships with people their own age afterwards.

The actual reports from people who have experienced it are not that different between the sexes if you actually look at them.

Some people (both girls and boys) who experienced these manipulative relationships and were inherently taken advantage of due to the nature of the relationship can turn okay and there are even some who look back on it as something neutral or messed up but not something that impacted them long term.

But some people handling being fucked over and preyed on by fucking weird ass creeps doesn't make it okay for it to happen.

If you prey on children, including teenagers, especially as someone they trust like a teacher or other authority figure you should be ostracized at best and dragged out into the street and put down like a dog at worst.

I have never seen even a single case of a normal, otherwise mentally healthy, functional member of society decide that fucking teenagers is a morally decent thing to do and that they want to do it themselves. It's always predatory or cluster b nutcases. There's a reason for that.
 
I'm not American but I never understood Kennedy Enslavement Syndrome.

JFK was a bull head imperialist who I fully believe would have launched a nuclear strike on the USSR if Khrushchev hadn't had the sense and foresight to back down.

He was probably one of the first examples of how powerful the media was becoming in the US as they propped him up as some kind of superman hero when in reality he was a philandering, low IQ, wealthy party boy who said the right things and look good on TV. And more let the real movers do what they wanted up until he started to believe his own PR and they killed him for it.
He was killed before he could really leave a legacy and people wishcast that he would've stopped everything bad that came after him. Imagine if George W. Bush died in another terrorist attack after 9/11 but before Iraq and we were left with Cheney who proceeded to do everything he did but even worse, you might still have an unironic cult of GWB today who imagines that he would've stopped GWOT and the Great Recession or at least stopped them from going too far.
 
He was hated by the same kinds of faggots that hate Trump, and sadly, unless there’s a giant war or revolution or something, Trump will go down the same way; people that were alive and paying attention at the time will remember how he was slandered, but future generations will having nothing to go off but the spin.
Rate me optimistic but I don't feel this will be the case. We've progressed to a point were the gatekeeper types that tarred Nixon have no where near the same reach or power they did back then. Too many people don't trust, won't trust the experts and are teaching their children the same. Also doesn't help the TDS types that the majority of people having children are pro-Trump. Or places like this thread exist where you can see for yourself what Trump was actually like come a decade or two. Wasn't like it was 50 years ago.

Do you seriously believe that gender is just a social construct
Gender is a social construct created by demons like John Money. It doesn't exist outside of the twisted heads of liberal and feminist academics trying to say a goose can be a gander, and a gander can be a goose. Sex is real, tangible, and more than body parts. Doesn't change your stupid bullshit is still stupid.
 
I am not reading your pedophile cope.
>April 2025 join date
>Elliott Roger profile picture and username


Given what he's been saying and how he behaves around people, not one thing should surprise you about him. Incel chan-dweller, probably a miserable porn addict who has no self-respect and thus powerlevels by typing his sexual fantasies from his teenage years (which he still holds onto as a grown man) on Kiwi Farms.
 
I think these Qataris are very impressive after looking into it.

Managing to discipline pajeets as well.

And show that it's possible to be rich and keep chimpouts to a minimum.
So long as they keep their people in their country, don't enslave our (white) people, and don't drag us into another desert war I couldn't begin to care about what our trade partners in the Middle East do. If it takes allying ourselves with a country that enslaves jeets to increase our quality of life by 0.1% then I'll take it.
 
just dropping by to dump a little bit of local TDS
it's TRUMPS FAULT they unbanned Pete Rose!


Don’t kid yourself, it wasn’t MLB commissioner Rob Manfred who reinstated Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson and made them eligible for the Baseball Hall of Fame earlier this week. It was President Donald Trump.
Does anybody really think it’s just a coincidence that Rose was reinstated just a couple of weeks after Trump — an avid Rose supporter — met with Manfred? Trump had previously written (using ALL CAPS, of course) on social media that he would be “signing a complete PARDON of Pete Rose, who shouldn’t have been gambling on baseball, but only bet on HIS TEAM WINNING.”
It’s no secret that baseball wants to stay on Trump’s good side to keep baseball’s antitrust exemption intact as the sport, according to the New York Times, “is moving forward for a direct-to-consumer streaming service for the league, and the migration from broadcast to streaming by professional sports leagues is under government scrutiny.”
This certainly isn’t the first time Trump has gotten involved with sports issues, and it certainly won’t be the last. He’s convened with officials from the PGA Tour and LIV Golf in an attempt to settle their feud. He’s called for a governmental commission to end the turmoil in college athletics. He’s effectively prodded sports leagues to ban transgender athletes from competing against biological females.
While I agree with Trump’s stand on transgender athletes and would also love to see him settle the golf dispute and quell the chaos in college football and basketball, I hate the idea that Rose and Jackson are suddenly free and clear to get into the Hall of Fame.
To me, this isn’t just a baseball story; it’s a snapshot of where we are in society. Shoeless Joe was part of a team that threw a World Series. Rose bet on baseball games while both playing the game and managing a team. These are cardinal sins — the kind of violations that strike at the very soul of the sport.
Rose didn’t spend decades showing remorse; he spent them selling autographs in Vegas and playing the victim. But here we are, getting ready to dust off his Hall of Fame plaque like he’s some sort of wronged hero. Shoeless Joe, too, had Hall of Fame numbers, no doubt, but he took gambling money, played along and stayed silent.
In sports today, you can get caught cheating, sign-stealing, juicing, tampering, betting — and we just shrug and say, “Everybody’s doing it.” In politics, you can lie, deny, get convicted, call facts fake — and still get elected.
Accepted rules don’t matter anymore. History can be rewritten. The bar can be lowered. And dishonor now comes with an expiration date.
Rob Manfred and Major League Baseball surrendered earlier this week.
They surrendered to the idea that ethics are optional and integrity is negotiable. …
 
hated by the same kinds
"History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme."

I guess hippies were among anti-Nixons? Also, I could see any comedy in the future on Trump being like Futurama or The Simpsons on Nixon, but more "Trump is Nazi" and culty.
 
"History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme."

I take it hippies among the anti-Nixon people? And I could see future comedy on Trump being like Futurama or The Simpsons on Nixon, but more cult-y.
American lefties love their bogeymen. It's why they make movies/shows with caricatures of American right wingers as dumb people flying swastikas and Confederate battle flags. Hitler has been dead since 1945. The American Civil War has been over for much longer.
 
I think a lot of these world leaders just want a chance to start over again with regards to modern geopolitics. Not like there will not be problems. There will be. And the old old problems will persist.

But let's make our own, new problems instead of bickering over the problems created by a bunch of people 80 years ago.
 
"History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme."

I guess hippies were among anti-Nixons? Also, I could see any comedy in the future on Trump being like Futurama or The Simpsons on Nixon, but more "Trump is Nazi" and culty.
Oh yes, mostly the hippies. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is a good example of a hippie-adjacent journalist whinging about Nixon constantly, and the faggot that wrote it (Hunter Thompson) pioneered gonzo journalism, a style where you narrate the events like a novel you’re a character in. Where Thompson was a manly good ole boy old school leftist, his style was copied and degraded into the sludge you see everywhere now. Nixon was far from the first President to wage a war on drugs - that’s another myth - but he heavily expanded it, and that angered the hippies too.
 
>April 2025 join date
>Elliott Roger profile picture and username


Given what he's been saying and how he behaves around people, not one thing should surprise you about him. Incel chan-dweller, probably a miserable porn addict who has no self-respect and thus powerlevels by typing his sexual fantasies from his teenage years (which he still holds onto as a grown man) on Kiwi Farms.

The reason I make these arguments now is because I made these exact arguments verbatim when I was 14/15. It pissed me off to no end. I made absolutely sure to remember my own perspective so I could view it in hindsight, and when I think about it holistically, I can't disagree with it.

>Using nonspecific personal experience as an example is powerleveling because (logical fallacy)

And there's already been research showing boys are equally harmed by molestation and rape including when the rapist is female.

I can't really argue with this. I was unaware of that and was using my personal life experience as the basis of my opinion. I might be incorrect on a broad basis. Though, based on what you said, the criteria may not actually match my hypothetical, but I guess that almost never actually happens. I'm curious about the criteria of the data that actually demonstrates this, do you have the specific reference you're mentioning?
 
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