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These troonatics will again, try to claim what are in universe fucking inanimate objects are actually totally trannies like them.
It's funny that the overarching theme of Deltarune is something like banishing fantasy to face reality, and that is totally lost on troons.
>Make the main characters of your game have suicidal tendencies, poor social skills, severe depression, childhood trauma, anger issues, and psychosis.
>They’re all represented in some way in the LGBT category.
These troonatics will again, try to claim what are in universe fucking inanimate objects are actually totally trannies like them.
It's funny that the overarching theme of Deltarune is something like banishing fantasy to face reality, and that is totally lost on troons.
The object turned darkner characters also embody something that the lightners see in them, like associated memories and attachments. With that context the idea of a trans medicalised darkner becomes very sad. "This person is mutilated just like me!"
The object turned darkner characters also embody something that the lightners see in them, like associated memories and attachments. With that context the idea of a trans medicalised darkner becomes very sad. "This person is mutilated just like me!"
The Ropesnap secret boss in the Tranny Dark World is way too strong.
One of the attacks it uses has a 41% chance of instantly killing the entire party!
The Ropesnap secret boss in the Tranny Dark World is way too strong.
One of the attacks it uses has a 41% chance of instantly killing the entire party!
Better, maybe. I wouldn't say that it did it particularly well, though.
Marche would just outright be the villain in any other Final Fantasy Game, the guy going around and fucking up the Crystals that allow the world to exist because he's a no-fun allowed asshole. It's just that for his case, the plot ended up going his way and the fantasy world was actually evil, and then he put his little brother back in the fucking wheelchair. God damn that's still so fucking funny.
I keep forgetting this chapter was even japan themed until I remember Aqua's battle theme (one of the few tracks that stood out) in my head and go "why did it sound chinese- oh right", the aesthetic felt kinda weak this chapter compared to 2 and even 3, didn't it?
I keep forgetting this chapter was even japan themed until I remember Aqua's battle theme (one of the few tracks that stood out) in my head and go "why did it sound chinese- oh right", the aesthetic felt kinda weak this chapter compared to 2 and even 3, didn't it?
Yeah, it's because every chapter up till this point had theming that makes sense.
Chapter 1 the major dark world is based on children's games because it's taking place in a classroom full of games and what have you.
Chapter 2 the dark world is technology based, because it was summoned in a computer lab.
Chapter 3 the dark world is meant to be something else (something snowy), but Tenna, the TV, has built over what it originally was to try to pretend everything is fine.
Chapter 4 the dark world is very church-y, because it's in a church.
And then Chapter 5, despite taking place in Asgore's shop, is just... Japan.
Now have read through the thread (mostly highlights) and good to see I'm not alone thinking it's mid at best (also, happy that I can discuss the game while being able to call a niggerfaggot a niggerfaggot).
As for the plot progression, it’s not that nothing at all happened, just that people were expecting several bombshells and all we got was on the same level as Chapter 3. And I like Chapter 3 more than most people, but we didn’t need a second chapter like it.
We got less than chapter 3 and that is saying something. Chapter 3 at least delivered the roaring knight reveal ignoring any and all side content and the sword sidecontent pretty much mapped out the weird route. Ramb was also a foreshadowing machine about Kris.
Chapter 5 gave us confirmation that Asgore knows what a Dark World is and that's about it. And OK, you don't want to reveal anything big yet. But with the theme of nostalgia you could use the chapter to start showing us the good times proper. Show us Dess, Asriel, Noelle and Kris together. Show us how Carol wasn't always an ice demon and Asgore being happy with his cunt of a wife. Show us how the Dreemurs and Holidays used to enjoy their company. Now you have to jam that together with whatever the hell happened to Dess and so on.
Even if this chapter was really setup for Sussie as the antagonist (love that theory by the way, may be me coping, but my god did Kris take a beating this chapter and Sussie being an antagonistic force would make it work, though she would never be evil, Gerson basically made her his protege), it would still be a very bad and wasteful chapter. Also, fuck Mad Mew Mew, fucking tranny allegory still sucks. I was hoping for a Red flower, could have been the discarded flower that Toriel didn't like in her bouquet due to looking blood red. But still have it allude to determination, hell go nuts with that and leave the party rattled by the power of "determination". Much more interesting memberberry.
Musicwise Chapter 3 also mogs the fuck out of 5 and I thought 3 was the weakest. TV Time, Tenna's boss theme, Chaos board, Raise your fucking bat are all awesome. Chapter 5 only has Aqua's theme and her battle theme (Who might you be, Petal Dance) and the cliff theme. Flowery boss is alright but everything else is either forgettable or a worse remix of a prior track.
You know, the lamest thing about this chapter is the extents it went to to make it impossible to just beat the flowers using FIGHT.
Like, sure, I know the lore reason is because they're not actually Darkners and depleting their HP in the Dark World would apparently just fucking kill them, but it's still gay as fuck.
It’s funny that if Blue the Flower was just a normal ballerina woman, people would probably have a better opinion on the Flower’s overall. Blue really does damage their reputation.
What's most disgusting is that it's written with the idea that the player thinks "it's cool!" unlike Flowery which is intended to be thought of as full of himself and annoying (but kind of cool, specially at the end). Some retarded tranny thought blue was a winner and Tricky Tony let it through probably due to brainrot or fear of tranny spergouts.
I'm gonna be honest, the six flowers were a fucking mess conceptually. They've got the most "designed by a group" energy of any important group of enemy so far. I can really only see Toby directly overseeing Seth and Aqua's design and implementation, and maybe Orange.
Definitely. Also feels like there was barely any oversight to keep them consistent. and such wasted potential. The original humans were rife with potential.
We know at the very least that there are birds, as we can hear birdsong sometimes.
Also, I can't believe how many "people" (16 IQ sloplovers) there are who say that the Weird route is "unsatisfying" when it's got the most interesting scenes in the entire fucking game, AND you don't get blatantly cucked, either!
I like the idea that Toby made Aqua and Seth and made the themes for the two of them, and then left the rest of the designs to the troonteam and was so disappointed with them, he just decided that Petal Dance was gonna be reused.
Considering that Aqua is THE ONLY FLOWER ACTUALLY DANCING.
Petal Dance's file name is fuckin, "miniboss_new_section_idea_wip" too, lmao. There are a bunch of tracks in the files labelled WIP but it's still funny to think that Toby just couldn't be bothered to compose songs for each of them. Which is even funnier considering that Your Best Nightmare featured little excerpts for each human soul that could've functioned as a base for a leitmotif.
But a filler chapter is a filler chapter.
More interesting shit, this time from the Organnik Philosophers from Chapter 4:
Return the dream? Another side? I wonder what it could mean... (It's ostensibly talking about Susie's attempt to recreate the First Sanctuary, but you know Toby and his love of double meanings.)
Guys, I figured it out. Dess took a lot of drugs and went out to the lake, then she heard Undyne swimming toward her in the water so she stabbed the ground at the bottom of the lake and hid her drugs inside, then she drowned because she’s a dumb bitch who forgot she couldn’t swim because she was high. Then the drugs spread across town through the root system so they escape into the open air when someone stabs the ground, making everyone in the surrounding area hallucinate anime flowers and a talking computer who knows their porn history. Now Dess’s ghost is out to get revenge against Undyne (the cop who tried to bust her), Toriel (the cunt who ratted her out), and Asgore (rival weed dealer).
This has probably been discussed to hell and back, but d'you think the reason Asgore and the others can't read his notes are because you supposedly can't read anything in a dream? The Dark World does feel a bit like wish fulfillment.
A very recent, very popular game also used that same plot thread. I'm going to laugh if Toby really drug his feet so hard that he got preempted by clair obscur.
This has probably been discussed to hell and back, but d'you think the reason Asgore and the others can't read his notes are because you supposedly can't read anything in a dream? The Dark World does feel a bit like wish fulfillment.
Nah, I think it's something to do with the Holidays. We know that Kris used to play with either Noelle or Dess.
There's a Christmas Tree and stars in the sky in the snow area.
Tenna just had his darkners build a new dark world over the Dreemurr household's natural Dark World. Which holds true to Tenna and the whole "building over something that already exists with happy lies" thing he's got going on.
