You Can't Un'Ape The Doe
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I don't think that works though or is intended, because Toby is aware that he's releasing the game chapter by chapter. He is aware most people are gonna be playing it as it releases and not after its ended and everyone has time to reflect. It doesn't make sense to set up a story structure like that where you're supposed to play one route entirely first, then another route (like Undertale) if most people are literally incapable of doing that because of the release.
I think it's honestly more likely at this stage that the subversion will be something along the lines of the Susie-meta-narrative-fuckery, which I really hope is the case because its the only way to save the story imo. Best case scenario without that, Susie x Noelle could still fall but the early relationship writing would still feel sloppy even if it's meant to be too fast.
Sure. Might be a bit hard since all my messages need to wait for mod approval (hence why I'm doing one big sperg-out reply) but I wouldn't mind helping, especially since all other communities are too focused on trooning about how heckin' wholesomeorino the dyke relationship is.
I would stipulate that maybe Susie's dark worlds are fucked, because she doesn't have a soul according to Toby, on account of being a lesbian. Maybe Toby's hatred for lesbians has been bubbling under the surface after one cucked him, and this is grand revenge plot to start Total Lesbian Genocide.
I mean with the susie-is-evil theory that would explain why Ralsei and other characters don't give much of a fuck about it, but it doesn't explain why Susie stopped caring even though she clearly did care before.
Kris evidently did something before chapter 5 started, maybe that has something to do with it? But it doesn't seem like Susie has naturally comes to terms with it or is repressing it, it just seems like she has entirely forgotten.
I honestly wonder if Kris legitimately mind-raped Susie into forgetting. I think that could also work, especially given how selfless Kris is (letting his body be controlled, letting himself be CUCKED, potentially giving his soul to Rudy or whoever the knight is, etc), but then I have no clue how that could tie into the Susie-Evil theory
Yeah I generally agree, because when you have something like that you pretty much either have "the prophecy is unstoppable" or "the prophecy can be changed" which on their own aren't particularly interesting. Theres I suppose also the option that "the prophecy is true/unstoppable but in an unexpected way", however functionally that can just feel like it's the latter option."
However I think the "susie-is-an-evil-malevolvent-dyke-who-wants-to-replace-Kris-and-destroy-the-west-with-her-faggotry" is actually one of few ways to handle the prophecy thing really well, because the prophecy is still "true" but it's being subverted by Susie, so I think it'll make for a very interesting story
Granted I don't think Toby will necessarily make it "everyone who ever liked Susie was being mind-raped." It might genuinely be that Kris' affection for Susie was genuine, perhaps the only actual genuine affection from anyone (Noelle is being mind-raped, everyone else is mind-raped to support the dykes). I actually think that would be the best way to handle it, because I think Kris liking Susie can make enough sense anyway, plus Kris liked Susie even before the soul was controlling him, and possibly before the events of the prophecy started occurring (Depending on how much that effects things). I do agree that Susie and Kris seem way too close after literally one day of becoming friends, but I think thats probably just a legitimate flaw in Toby's writing instead of something thats going to be recontextualised later
