Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

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Tricky Tony did say he wanted to release 6 and 7 together so with any luck we might wrap up this clown show before 2028.
I'm guessing that the reason why the date wasn't shown in-game like the last time is because it's an optimistic estimate, whereas the previous one was a lot more set in stone. Remember, the reason why Chapter 2 took so long was because Toby was experiencing chronic wrist pain at the time, but still tried his best to deliver (I can actually respect him for that, especially compared to YanDev and blaming it on having to respond to e-mails).

If there's anything I expect from the fact that Weird Route skips Chapter 6, is that it's going to be an exposition dump heavy chapter, which is why seasoned players who go for an alternate route would want to skip it.
 
>new chapter releasing one year after previous one
>previous chapter was high quality and well-received
>previous chapter's story is considered one of the best in the franchise
>story of new chapter is expected to be the beginning of the final act where the stakes get higher than ever
>new chapter centers around fat, kingly villain
>said villain has been there since the beginning, so him being the main villain is highly hyped
>the Big Bad of the whole franchise, introduced last chapter, is also expected to appear again
>franchise had a fair amount of faggot shit, but it was ignorable enough that chuds could hold their nose and overlook it for other qualities
>expectations are high
>new chapter releases
>immediately gay niggers are shoved in your face
>entire story is filler and nothing actually happens
>new location barely makes any sense
>we inconsequentially screw around in this location while more important things happen elsewhere
>pacing is all over the place
>randomly switches between desperate race against the clock and lighthearted anime shlock
>new characters feel like some faggot's OC who doesn't belong in this universe
>Fat Kingly Villain is sidelined the whole time
>Big Bad does nothing until the very end
>female character with the last name Holiday dies
>the one heterosexual relationship in the game is torpedoed
>the worst gay nigger survives and is impossible to get rid of
>new gameplay mechanics are somewhat cool but not enough to distract from the story
>normal enemies have bad artificial difficulty, making frequent encounters with them annoying
>story feels rushed despite it supposedly being written years ago
>nothing happens in the chapter so now absolutely everything has to be resolved in the upcoming grand finale
>overall quality has taken a total nosedive compared to previous chapter
>concurrent player record is broken anyway, entirely due to hype from previous chapter
>most common response to it is "What the fuck did I just play?"
>nicest thing anyone can think to say about it is "The gameplay was really good even though the story sucked"
>normie fans come out of the woodwork to say "not to be racist or homophobic but those LGBT+ African-Americans were really obnoxious"
>most chuds decide the faggotry is no longer tolerable and quit
>the only people full-throatedly defending it are trannies and youtuber slaves
>people are wondering what the hell happened behind the scenes that caused this sudden sharp drop in quality
>trust in the developer's handling of the franchise is shattered

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Hi guys it's me toby fox
Man chapter 5 really was something. That weird route, what's gonna happen? And the mysteries with the goners and onionsan? What was that about? And who really is the knight and what happened on the date of Dess's disappearance?

Now I know a lot of you want answers, but here is a thought. What if Ralsei cut his dick off? Hear me out! He's a feminine guy with a lot of emotions regarding the events at hand. Now he could decide to deal with these emotions in a productive manner in a way that advanced the plot, but instead we could have a scene where you climb a tower and he is in drag. Then in chapter 6 he can start using pronouns like she and they. Is the hamfisted? No, not at all. Ralsei was always a woman true and honest.

What? You think this sounds like grooming? How is a confused young man dealing with world ending responsibility being gaslit by a mature mentor/rival character into doing things like "drinking the blue and pink drink" grooming? Ralsei wanted it, Flowery said so himself!

I think you're all just bigots. Real true and honest Deltarune fans would like all the gay shit I put into this chapter. The right wing chud fans who enjoy the strange events and mysteries the game presents are WRONG! Everything up to and including chapter 5 was actually about Ralsei taking drugs to be a pretend girl and Susie and Noelle having lesbian times; everything else is just window dressing that doesn't need to be looked at.

Anyway I'm off to eat Sakurais asshole, see you in 2027.
 
just thought of something that would've made this chapter infinitely better.

what if the flowers would've just been recolors of lightners and the chapter would've revolved around how the asgore perception of his family, friends, etc and the expectations he had of them if and when he gets to reveal what the dark fountains are. with said flowers pushing him deep into the delusions of the dark world to "keep finding clues" as a way to cope for the disappearance of Dess in a safe place where everyone loves him.

we could've also have interactions with the perceptions asgore has of Kris, Toriel, Carol, Noelle... maybe even Asriel (though it could also not be, being that maybe being that he went to his uni it may signal that he won't be seeing him anymore)

we could've seen flower in flower interactions with data HE knows each lightner has, alongside fake information he interpreted.

and discerning whats true from whats false would be the "asgore fight" with only him accepting any "unfortunate events" being the way of defeating him.

I dont know what the secret boss could be with this theory but im thinking yall could find a good idea to fill the gap
 
adding to this, maybe the flower carol gives us the shelter key because HE knows what it is too
 
He came before.

TL;DR: Toby Fox is too much of a pussy who cucks to his whiny fans instead of sticking to his vision. He doesn't actually respect his audience.

Some doubted his words.


But then came revelation.

It's been "fun" watching the meltdowns on /v/, but this was a highlight. Toby unironically might have a cuck fetish.

Return, O King of Pirates; assume thy throne and claim thy crown. Truly you were and are the Unraped.
 
what about kris losing his hand? was that completely skipped in this chapter? i'm not playing through that niggerhell that is the normal route
>actual foreshadowed permanent character changes
lolno

The only permanent changes going forward are Asgore being Kidnapped, Susie and Noelle being openly romantic with each other and cucking Kris, and Ralsei using Fire Magic.

Literally everything else is the status quo from the end of CH4, it's entirely possible that you could just skip this chapter entirely when 6 comes out and miss absolutely nothing besides those handful of events.
 
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He came before.



Some doubted his words.



But then came revelation.



Return, O King of Pirates; assume thy throne and claim thy crown. Truly you were and are the Unraped.
Are you suggesting that Toby changed his original plan for 5 because too many people liked Kris and Susie together and so he raped the plot to make the polar opposite happen or are you just making a joking connection between "Toby cucks to his fans" and Toby having an apparent IRL cuck fetish
 
lolno

The only permanent changes going forward are Asgore being Kidnapped, Susie and Noelle being openly romantic with each other and cucking Kris, and Ralsei using Fire Magic.

Literally everything else is the status quo from the end of CH4, it's entirely possible that you could just skip this chapter entirely when 6 comes out and miss absolutely nothing besides those three changes.
someone needs to make a mod that would skip this chapter entirely, or add "skip chapter 5" function into tennaproject so you can toggle some flags to go straight into chapter 6 with all the equipment and progress. a tool like this existing is inevitable
 
Has anybody mentioned that there's a secret FRIEND act during the platforming segments that either does 1 damage to the party or sets hp to 1?
 
Are you suggesting that Toby changed his original plan for 5 because too many people liked Kris and Susie together and so he raped the plot to make the polar opposite happen or are you just making a joking connection between "Toby cucks to his fans" and Toby having an apparent IRL cuck fetish
Yes. Bottom text.

(It's the latter, combined with me saying that the interpretation that Toby didn't intend a deflowering implication scene seems on increasingly precarious ground given that he is blatantly doing cuck shit.)
 
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