Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

[Retarded Weeb]

How does monger aging work?

Children grow up as the parents age and get older, until the parent dies of old age. Don't ask how it works if there are multiple children or children born later.
I don't think this rule applies anymore in DRune though, seeing they lost most of their magic and became quite normal.

Monsters age the same way humans do, though their lifespans might vary (though I'm not sure if that applies to Deltarune since I'm not sure about Gerson being hundreds of years old because he's a turtle like the Undertale version of him was).

I had to double-check this myself because people always get it wrong, but people misremember the aging rule from Undertale. It only applies to boss monsters, not monsters in general. So just Asgore and Toriel. The two of them only age as their child is growing as their Soul power flows from parent to child. It's mostly a plot device to explain how the two of them have been alive for so long while basically stuck in the stage of looking like middle-age parents.

 

[soy woah jaque]

>An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity. For an idiot, if you make something so clusterfucked he can't understand it, he's gonna think you're a God.
Ohnonono deltatroon theoryfags are we retards???

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

It can't flop because everyone paid for it already
shekel.mp4

I paid a total of 0$ for it.
Because I, unlike some goyim, had foresight.

 

[Coolio55]

Asriel might be dead by the time of the game, regardless of plot fuckery and if he is, he counts too.

>No Asriel
>No scenes between him and Kris
>No Bros. Attacks
>No fanart
>No funeral
I think there will be a genuine riot if Asriel is a no-show.
Here's an interesting thing I've just noticed though:
Flowery is supposed to be a fantasy of Rudy
...but his bishie antics remind me of how Asriel (or, FLOWEY) is typically portrayed in fanon - sans (undertale) all the dark edginess.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

>No Asriel
>No scenes between him and Kris
>No Bros. Attacks
>No fanart
>No funeral
I think there will be a genuine riot if Asriel is a no-show.
Here's an interesting thing I've just noticed though:
Flowery is supposed to be a fantasy of Rudy
...but his bishie antics remind me of how Asriel (or, FLOWEY) is typically portrayed in fanon - sans (undertale) all the dark edginess.

If the Ralsei = Flowey schizobabble turns out to be true then that means the real reason Ralsei hates Flowery is because it's like looking at offensively bad fanfiction about yourself come to life.

 

[NSJAP]

Is there anyone who lurked beyond 4chan to see what's the general vibe on Toby's implementation of suselle?

 

[Tablet County]

> Antepenultimate chapter spent developing a whole new ensemble of characters instead of giving depth to the existing ones
> One of them is literally just a burly gay black man in a dress

Ah, the Tite Kubo school of writing.

It really is a shame that Berdly is not gonna have any impact on the story from now, and it's not just because of me playing a Berdly avatar for months now

Reading this from a guy with a Berdly pfp is extremely funny.

 

[soy woah jaque]

Large amounts of the review are just the author saying he hates the writing style and other matters of taste, despite saying he's trying to be objective

Deltasissies this is our kino

 

[Two Dollars]

See, a good writer would make this a plot point about determinism and prophecy and susie effectively embracing the Main Hero role more than Kris, prophecy doesn't care who you are, it will totally fuck logic up to make itself happen. You went off-script and moped and self-sabotaged, so now everyone's acting fucking weird and you're getting cucked by a dinosaur.

I think what's happened is that Kris, the original Kris, with a soul of his own, was meant to be the one who loved "The Girl" in this case, Noelle, but some bullshit occurred that fucked up the entire prophecy already and all sorts of shit is being shuffled about.

These are fascinating ideas that could pull the story out of the massive hole Toby’s dug for it while potentially appeasing all sides of shipfaggotry and getting everything back on track. Too bad they’re not gonna happen.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

well, i wanted another chapter 4, and i got another chapter 3 but with all the sword route cool stuff replaced with suselle shit.
the least they couldve done was not blueball us on the weird route to make an interesting flipside to all the suselle shit in the normal route, but no. i dont think cutting out the most interesting content in the game with a glorified "SEE YOU IN 3 YEARS" message is a very smart move tobias.

the "secret" boss was fucking gay and boring, an annoying throwaway shoehorned character whose only significance is a brief reference to another throwaway shoehorned character from undertale (muffet) and sharing its battle mechanics.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY NO FUCKING GASTER CONTENT. IM LIVID, THIS CHAPTER SUCKS

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

This fucking nigger.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I also like how escapism is bad doesn't apply to Susie because "muh bad home", derp.

Considering she's literally living in the closet now and considers it her "home" that may not actually be true.

 

[Coolio55]

Guys. You don't get it. It's actually a funny Parodius reference:

 

[starborn427614]

well, i wanted another chapter 4, and i got another chapter 3 but with all the sword route cool stuff replaced with suselle shit.
the least they couldve done was not blueball us on the weird route to make an interesting flipside to all the suselle shit in the normal route, but no. i dont think cutting out the most interesting content in the game with a glorified "SEE YOU IN 3 YEARS" message is a very smart move tobias.

the "secret" boss was fucking gay and boring, an annoying throwaway shoehorned character whose only significance is a brief reference to another throwaway shoehorned character from undertale (muffet) and sharing its battle mechanics.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY NO FUCKING GASTER CONTENT. IM LIVID, THIS CHAPTER SUCKS

It was so easy to avoid, too. Just end the chapter on a bang instead of the massive downer of Kris being alone. Actually, you could still do that and have something interesting happen. If anything, the contrast would make it hit harder.

 

[Puck Clown]

Some old art I found. Thought I'd share with all the buzz about how Kris is being treated.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

also it took me until i reached the secret boss to realize i was playing the wrong save file and somehow i lost my 100% completion normal route save i made when chapter 4 came out. i probably cant be fucking assed to replay the whole game and get everything by now. the platforming gameplay was pretty cool but the flower characters made me want to throw a brick at the screen, fucking annoying.

except green, im cool with green

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

So, sans gives you bread that crumbles, right?
Ostensibly this is to give people a trail of breadcrumbs to follow Kris, but in the OG Mother, there's also a crumbly bread item that's used to warp you when you use it a second time back to where you first used it. There is, in fact, a famous glitch involving giving the bread to a temporary party member that allows you to glitch out of bounds and head straight to a lategame area.

Kinda funny we get it just before using a temporary party member to go out of bounds straight to chapter 7.

 

[NSJAP]

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

So, sans gives you bread that crumbles, right?
Ostensibly this is to give people a trail of breadcrumbs to follow Kris, but in the OG Mother, there's also a crumbly bread item that's used to warp you when you use it a second time back to where you first used it. There is, in fact, a famous glitch involving giving the bread to a temporary party member that allows you to glitch out of bounds and head straight to a lategame area.

Kinda funny we get it just before using a temporary party member to go out of bounds straight to chapter 7.

Sans is Ninten bros we're eating good.

 

[Puck Clown]

Just found out that apparently, if you've completed Chapter 5 once, you can sleep in Kris' bed and skip the ENTIRE festival section and go straight to the Dark World