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Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion
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"This can't just be our thing, it has to be Noelle's thing too?"
NIGGA WHY? What can she do to possibly help?
NIGGA WHY? What can she do to possibly help?
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What I fucking hate with the Suselle scenes we've gotten so far is that Kris is always absent or in this case knocked out cold. I get the story doesn't need to revolve around Kris all the time, but if I'm going to be presented with an unskippable un-fast-forwardable 'cutscene' of two halves of a scissor going at it, I'm gonna be pissed. And absolutely no fucking reason why we need to see it other than Toby's inane yuri fetish. If we jumped from Festival to Beach and then from Beach to Dark World by having Noelle scramble to get back home to appease her mother, Susie waking up Kris and the Dark World appearing as we're going to get Noelle/confront Carol- I'll tell ya the story would still suck, but it would've sucked less.
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Not sure if this chapter is even worth pirating from the sounds of it
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Yes, but those are parasites who screech about how everything remotely offensive within is problematic and should be grounds for cancellation. I just don't see why this decision would be made when it wouldn't appeal to people who hate free fictional expression, which is a description very fitting for UT/DR fans. (Remember the multiple bitchfits they had over the most inconsequential things after chapters 3 and 4? Misgendering Kris is just like da troon genocide!)
Ah well, probably thinking too hard about retarded goycattle and their decisions, they'll briefly get gender euphoria because it's so valid xuys.
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Smity Werbenjagermanjensen
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After finishing the new chapter my first thought was this worked better if it was the fourth chapter instead, I know that Chapter 5 was originally planned to release alongside 3 and 4 so maybe this would have been less disappointing if that was the case as well.
At least there were some interesting implications like Ralsei knows Kris is the one opening up the fountains, but there was no payoff to anything for this chapter.
At least there were some interesting implications like Ralsei knows Kris is the one opening up the fountains, but there was no payoff to anything for this chapter.
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I'm assuming Susie's excuse is that they still need to find the code that's tied to the Holiday family? Either way, that was definitely the most enraging part of the chapter for me. "Yeah I know the dark world is a super special thing between the two of us but your dad is in danger now so we have to ask for help! Okay yeah Undyne was in danger before that but no one cares about her. Anyway we still need the Holiday shelter code so Noelle just HAS to get involved now haha!" Peak character assassination, that's what this chapter was for Susie.
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For those not familiar with Void Stranger, the plot of that game involves a lesbian mentor/student thing getting cucked by an evil rapist prince who pretended to be good and made a deal with demons.
So the fact a dev of that did Chapter 5 bullets is very on the nose.
So the fact a dev of that did Chapter 5 bullets is very on the nose.
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She can grow stronger.
She will grow stronger.
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Other people have said it in the thread already but I've also noticed this odd trend of writers setting up what seems like an interesting premise or mystery only to then completely fucking squander it by focusing on retarded shit and before you know it the story is already over and nothing worthwhile was actually explained.
Apparently it's fucking impossible for current day writers to follow up on their own plot threads it seems.
EDIT: And don't even try to give me the classic "Well there has to be SOME mystery, they can't answer EVERYTHING!" cope because there is a pretty big difference between answering the important questions and answering literally nothing at all. I'm not asking for literally all answers ever, I'm just asking for the pertinent questions to be answered and they can't even do that apparently.
Apparently it's fucking impossible for current day writers to follow up on their own plot threads it seems.
EDIT: And don't even try to give me the classic "Well there has to be SOME mystery, they can't answer EVERYTHING!" cope because there is a pretty big difference between answering the important questions and answering literally nothing at all. I'm not asking for literally all answers ever, I'm just asking for the pertinent questions to be answered and they can't even do that apparently.
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If it looks like a lesbian thing is involved it always blows the actually-interesting premises. Every single time, there is no exception.
This fact is so ubiquitous that even formerly pro-lesbian women I know realized and they now hate yurifags.
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Well.... I finally finished Chapter 5, the long awaited chapter. Here is my honest to God review. Expect long sperging ahead for someone who waited the Chapter ever since finishing Chapter 4 last year.
Honestly, I feel that, as a whole, the puzzles, the visual art, and everything the episode had to show were relatively better than what Deltarune has shown so far. Some of the enemies felt more fun to play against, and characters like Seth and Aqua were quite enjoyable and helped make several parts of the story more tolerable. I feel that if the pacing had been better, we could have had a chapter where everything progressed smoothly.
That being said... this was a very bad chapter. I feel like the writing completely fell apart here, and on top of that, nothing, absolutely nothing has changed. The plot didn't move forward at all, and we're still left with the same unanswered questions that this entire chapter could have addressed if it hadn't included what felt like thirty scenes of Susie and Noelle. I actually took the time to list down the number of bullshit that wasn't explained or adressed or straight out scrapped in this chapter.
I'll finish up the later part of my review, because I'm sleepy and can't work my mind about writing more shit. But yeah, this chapter felt extremely disappointing.
Honestly, I feel that, as a whole, the puzzles, the visual art, and everything the episode had to show were relatively better than what Deltarune has shown so far. Some of the enemies felt more fun to play against, and characters like Seth and Aqua were quite enjoyable and helped make several parts of the story more tolerable. I feel that if the pacing had been better, we could have had a chapter where everything progressed smoothly.
That being said... this was a very bad chapter. I feel like the writing completely fell apart here, and on top of that, nothing, absolutely nothing has changed. The plot didn't move forward at all, and we're still left with the same unanswered questions that this entire chapter could have addressed if it hadn't included what felt like thirty scenes of Susie and Noelle. I actually took the time to list down the number of bullshit that wasn't explained or adressed or straight out scrapped in this chapter.
- The first thing I realized. Neither Susie nor Ralsei showed any reaction to what happened in Chapter 4. Remember? The one where Susie sees what happens at the end of the Prophecy and is left in shock, and Ralsei is so desperate he's in tears for letting Susie find out the end of the prophecy?
Well, the next day, they're both happy and just goofing around in Castle Town, feeling as if that ending never happened at all. In fact, the Prophecy and its narrative weight are only mentioned once in this entire chapter and are treated as a complete afterthought. It's as if Chapter 4 never existed, despite how important it apparently was.
In fact, speaking of which, we also don't know what the fuck Kris was doing when he ran away from home at the end of that Chapter. All we see of him is that he apparently looked pale and sick from being without his SOUL for so long.
- I was expecting a dramatic moment between Kris and Toriel after she danced with a man at her house, considering Kris's sad reaction at the end of that episode. Nope, Toriel only has one line of dialogue in this episode, and that's it. Nothing of substance happened with her. And Toriel didn't care, which increases the level of dislike for a character like her, whose image in the fandom was already falling apart.
- The Festival, the thing that was hyped for like three chapters felt extremely underwhelming. I honestly don't know what I was hoping for with the idea of having a festival in a game like this. But I feel like anything else would have worked better than what they did here. I feel like the Festival should have been more important to the plot than just being a section of the game where you can only do a few things and that's it. Like someone else posted here, I feel like there was a lot of cut content in this area.
- I think Toby tone down on Sans' douchebaggery since he is not nearly as confrontational to Kris and Susie as he was to the other chapter, but once again, I was expecting SOMETHING from him considering how much of an antagonistic asshole he was in the ending of chapter 4. Also, when are we going to fucking see Papyrus?
- Susie felt EXTREMELY out of character in this chapter. I don't know what the hell Toby Fox did to her, but this isn't the same Susie from the previous episode. Seeing her blush around Noelle, charmed by her, grabbing her, and even telling her she likes her felt so baffling that I considered stopping the episode several times. You have to keep in mind that this is a character who just yesterday discovered a terrible truth about the prophecy, saw a dead body, met an old man who inspired her to be better, and then found out that same night that the old man was dead all the time and that rocked her world.
What the hell is she doing smiling and clowning around at the festival like nothing happened? And those inconsistencies with her feelings are the LEAST of what needs to be said about her in what happened here. The whole joke about flirting with her was completely ruined in this episode because it felt wrong to do it now that she likes Noelle.
- I'm not as angry about the Suselle ship being canon as some people in this thread. But it really bothers me that the ship now takes up so much screen time at the detriment of the endearing friendship Kris and Susie built over four episodes. Here, Kris legitimately felt like a third wheel. I'll give Toby Fox the benefit of the doubt here, and I can forgive him for this deconstruction if it leads to something better. But as things stand, this was a terrible way to handle a ship.
- No Carol in this chapter was fucking stupid, considering how chilling her first appearance was in that chapter. No mention of her to Kris or anything at all. I thought Noelle, being a little brat and interrupting her mother to keep her away from Susie, would lead to something, but no, she only called because something happened to Rudy, and that's all we heard from her. I even hoped it was a trap to keep Noelle away from Susie, but not even that. It was extremely disappointing.
- The Jockington theory just fell apart. As much as Catti being a follower of the Roaring Knight theory, since the two of them just act normal like nothing happened. Even with things like Jockington's dialogue deteriorating as the episodes progressed, or Catti calling Kris a traitor, that was another thing that led nowhere.
- Where the FUCK was Onion-san and all that bullshit about hearing music in the deep parts of the lake? Actually, now while we're at it. What was that deal about the lake mentioned in the ARG? Unless I am missing it from the Weird route, that ARG served zero purpose in the original route.
Well, the next day, they're both happy and just goofing around in Castle Town, feeling as if that ending never happened at all. In fact, the Prophecy and its narrative weight are only mentioned once in this entire chapter and are treated as a complete afterthought. It's as if Chapter 4 never existed, despite how important it apparently was.
In fact, speaking of which, we also don't know what the fuck Kris was doing when he ran away from home at the end of that Chapter. All we see of him is that he apparently looked pale and sick from being without his SOUL for so long.
- I was expecting a dramatic moment between Kris and Toriel after she danced with a man at her house, considering Kris's sad reaction at the end of that episode. Nope, Toriel only has one line of dialogue in this episode, and that's it. Nothing of substance happened with her. And Toriel didn't care, which increases the level of dislike for a character like her, whose image in the fandom was already falling apart.
- The Festival, the thing that was hyped for like three chapters felt extremely underwhelming. I honestly don't know what I was hoping for with the idea of having a festival in a game like this. But I feel like anything else would have worked better than what they did here. I feel like the Festival should have been more important to the plot than just being a section of the game where you can only do a few things and that's it. Like someone else posted here, I feel like there was a lot of cut content in this area.
- I think Toby tone down on Sans' douchebaggery since he is not nearly as confrontational to Kris and Susie as he was to the other chapter, but once again, I was expecting SOMETHING from him considering how much of an antagonistic asshole he was in the ending of chapter 4. Also, when are we going to fucking see Papyrus?
- Susie felt EXTREMELY out of character in this chapter. I don't know what the hell Toby Fox did to her, but this isn't the same Susie from the previous episode. Seeing her blush around Noelle, charmed by her, grabbing her, and even telling her she likes her felt so baffling that I considered stopping the episode several times. You have to keep in mind that this is a character who just yesterday discovered a terrible truth about the prophecy, saw a dead body, met an old man who inspired her to be better, and then found out that same night that the old man was dead all the time and that rocked her world.
What the hell is she doing smiling and clowning around at the festival like nothing happened? And those inconsistencies with her feelings are the LEAST of what needs to be said about her in what happened here. The whole joke about flirting with her was completely ruined in this episode because it felt wrong to do it now that she likes Noelle.
- I'm not as angry about the Suselle ship being canon as some people in this thread. But it really bothers me that the ship now takes up so much screen time at the detriment of the endearing friendship Kris and Susie built over four episodes. Here, Kris legitimately felt like a third wheel. I'll give Toby Fox the benefit of the doubt here, and I can forgive him for this deconstruction if it leads to something better. But as things stand, this was a terrible way to handle a ship.
- No Carol in this chapter was fucking stupid, considering how chilling her first appearance was in that chapter. No mention of her to Kris or anything at all. I thought Noelle, being a little brat and interrupting her mother to keep her away from Susie, would lead to something, but no, she only called because something happened to Rudy, and that's all we heard from her. I even hoped it was a trap to keep Noelle away from Susie, but not even that. It was extremely disappointing.
- The Jockington theory just fell apart. As much as Catti being a follower of the Roaring Knight theory, since the two of them just act normal like nothing happened. Even with things like Jockington's dialogue deteriorating as the episodes progressed, or Catti calling Kris a traitor, that was another thing that led nowhere.
- Where the FUCK was Onion-san and all that bullshit about hearing music in the deep parts of the lake? Actually, now while we're at it. What was that deal about the lake mentioned in the ARG? Unless I am missing it from the Weird route, that ARG served zero purpose in the original route.
I'll finish up the later part of my review, because I'm sleepy and can't work my mind about writing more shit. But yeah, this chapter felt extremely disappointing.
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hey guys. i copy pasted text into this post with my eyes closed, please respond in dms. i'm gonna pirate the game later, can anyone tell me if there are differences if:
- you get all possible eggs on the weird route, i forgot about the one in ch3
- if you skip onionsan, and if you did that on the weird route. i skipped him (her?) on the weird rotue
- if there are differences when you abort the snowgrave route(ch2 or ch4), don't tell me about chapter 5. don't go into details just say yes or no.
also i got fucking spoiled by a reccomendation even though i explicitly don't watch gaming videos on that account. like wtf why there is a FUCKING KAIZO KNIGHT ON THE THUMBNAIL???
- you get all possible eggs on the weird route, i forgot about the one in ch3
- if you skip onionsan, and if you did that on the weird route. i skipped him (her?) on the weird rotue
- if there are differences when you abort the snowgrave route(ch2 or ch4), don't tell me about chapter 5. don't go into details just say yes or no.
also i got fucking spoiled by a reccomendation even though i explicitly don't watch gaming videos on that account. like wtf why there is a FUCKING KAIZO KNIGHT ON THE THUMBNAIL???
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3>5>4 would've definitely helped with the pacing.
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Honestly? Forgettable. Nothing outright horrible but most of it was just remixes of earlier songs or generally uninteresting stuff. The only track I remember is the Asgore theme remix, but it's just an ambient track and not even a boss theme as there's no Asgore boss.
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You could just say "Andrew Dobson"
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I'm just fucking dissapointed from what I've seen of the chapter here and what I've played. Was rather excited to go through and enjoy the Festival and all, but dragging along Noelle for the first 30 minutes of the game is just shit. I'm sorry, maybe Noelle could've been a better character, she could've been funnier. But she adds nothing. Nothing at all. Remove her, you get and keep two outcasts fucking around across the town before going to save Kris's dad. Thats it, thats fun, I wish we could've removed Noelle from this chapter. Maybe Carol locks her up in the house- since if we're going to have Carol be a bitch, make her act like one. It'd be positive development for both Carol as a villain and Noelle to hopefully detox her of dykeshit.
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Don't blame me, the ones on the main sub I went back to save got jannied away lmao.
The consensus does seem to be pretty evenly split between "ZOMG BEST CHAPTER EVAR I'M EJACULATING RIGHT NOW" and "Wtf was that shit, that didn't answer literally anything"
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I love how everyone is talking about all the obnoxious suselle shit without knowing what awaits them later on in the chapter.
I know deltarune already had a reputation to attract them, but trust me when I say this chapters shadow crystal boss is the closest thing Toby has made to pure troonslop
I know deltarune already had a reputation to attract them, but trust me when I say this chapters shadow crystal boss is the closest thing Toby has made to pure troonslop