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- 29 de Nov, 2020
Do you know which site you're on?Did you really come here just to sperg?
OK, fine. You want serious discussion about this shit? Here ya go.Come on Vyse, you’re better than this.
Because Undertale/Deltarune were made by small teams, there's a lot less of a barrier between the player and the creator. Some might say it's nonexistent. And this to me, is the games' biggest downfall. Take the infamous moment during the Snowgrave Route in Chapter 4 (you know the one).
Toby Fox nearly immediately patched it out of the game, because it was too interesting. It was too complex, too challenging, too unabashed for Deltarune's audience of wokescolds + high-school freshmen and younger who avert their eyes to anything morally intense. Anything that features uncomfortable content or themes is a no-go in the fictional stories I like, because it must mean the author approves of that. Why else would they write it?
I cannot stress enough how anti-art patching it out is. The point of art is interpretation. Art is a conversation that occurs between the creator and the viewer. If a viewer wants to interpret something like that and it isn't intentional (lol, lmao even), who gives a shit? It's interesting that that connection can be made. In a real video game for people who have progressed past the mental age of 9, this would be a completely acceptable, albeit challenging theme to approach. But since Toby Fox is actually staunchly anti-art, it was quickly patched out. The way it was patched out was also deeply embarrassing, with it quickly being replaced with a singular red pixel before later having a different animation made.

Such obviously panicked damage control, and for no reason. Because he made something interesting. Something with grit. Something uncomfortable.




But art isn't supposed to make anyone uncomfortable, right?
It's the kind of self indulgence parents do that gets their kids on My 600-Pound Life. And I'm not eating the 10 pounds of Big Macs, Dad. Give me some vegetables.
There is nothing wrong with interpreting this scene as rape, there would be nothing wrong with this interpretation being the intended one, and it was almost certainly initially designed to be interpreted as such. Pretending that Toby Fox has never heard the term "deflowering" is asinine. Pretending that nobody on the development team saw the asset and thought it could be interpreted in such a way is even more asinine. Pretending Toby Fox accidentally wrote a route to the game where you make a girl subservient to you with the climax being alone in her room giving her something she does not want is utterly fucking ridiculous. The line of thought that Toby Fox just waltzed into this big misunderstanding is a result of pretending Toby Fox is an "uwu small bean" that could never write anything uncomfortable or enjoy any storytelling that might not ascribe to someone's personal sensitivities.But retards thought it was a "deflowering" reference and gaslit themselves into thinking the player raped Noelle or otherwise assaults her during the cut to black.
Toby Fox nearly immediately patched it out of the game, because it was too interesting. It was too complex, too challenging, too unabashed for Deltarune's audience of wokescolds + high-school freshmen and younger who avert their eyes to anything morally intense. Anything that features uncomfortable content or themes is a no-go in the fictional stories I like, because it must mean the author approves of that. Why else would they write it?
I cannot stress enough how anti-art patching it out is. The point of art is interpretation. Art is a conversation that occurs between the creator and the viewer. If a viewer wants to interpret something like that and it isn't intentional (lol, lmao even), who gives a shit? It's interesting that that connection can be made. In a real video game for people who have progressed past the mental age of 9, this would be a completely acceptable, albeit challenging theme to approach. But since Toby Fox is actually staunchly anti-art, it was quickly patched out. The way it was patched out was also deeply embarrassing, with it quickly being replaced with a singular red pixel before later having a different animation made.

Such obviously panicked damage control, and for no reason. Because he made something interesting. Something with grit. Something uncomfortable.




But art isn't supposed to make anyone uncomfortable, right?
It's the kind of self indulgence parents do that gets their kids on My 600-Pound Life. And I'm not eating the 10 pounds of Big Macs, Dad. Give me some vegetables.
TL;DR: Toby Fox is too much of a pussy who cucks to his whiny fans instead of sticking to his vision. He doesn't actually respect his audience.

