Underhated TV finales - What ending you were the only one dissapointed at?

[ZMOT]

So Gene Roddenberry decided Star Trek needed a new alien species: A bunch of gold-obsessed goblins with big noses and even bigger cocks who were constantly trying to sell women into sex slavery. Like, canonically. His co-writers quietly removed that part about the genitals. It took years to unfuck the Ferengi into something vaguely inoffensive.

I know it sounds like a joke, like I’m doing a bit, but you can just read it on the wiki.

roddenberry was a hollywood oldfag at that point. wouldn't be the first to (((notice))), lot of people draw inspiration from experience.

From what I’ve been told and the few episodes I’ve seen, the Bajorans did terrorist shit and false flags during the occupation. The amount of deaths was 10 million over 50 years, they seriously sucked at genocide. It’s a planet of billions (I checked this the genocide shit) and the occupation is 200,000 deaths per year. Seriously, the blue haired Jew (he was actually blue haired, I shit you not) did not understand math nor the logistics of scaling the Holocaust to a planet.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

Makes sense considering the old "Bajorans are meant to be Jews" take.

Doesn’t Star Trek have like 8 Jew stand-ins? The Ferengi are the most antisemitic, but also the most likeable from what I’ve seen.

My knowledge of a lot of DS9 comes from Dukat memes, but yeah his reign of terror was mild. They have an entire planet with billions of people and there are barely millions dead after a few decades?

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So Gene Roddenberry decided Star Trek needed a new alien species: A bunch of gold-obsessed goblins with big noses and even bigger cocks who were constantly trying to sell women into sex slavery. Like, canonically. His co-writers quietly removed that part about the genitals. It took years to unfuck the Ferengi into something vaguely inoffensive.

I know it sounds like a joke, like I’m doing a bit, but you can just read it on the wiki.

From what I’ve been told and the few episodes I’ve seen, the Bajorans did terrorist shit and false flags during the occupation. The amount of deaths was 10 million over 50 years, they seriously sucked at genocide. It’s a planet of billions (I checked this the genocide shit) and the occupation is 200,000 deaths per year. Seriously, the blue haired Jew (he was actually blue haired, I shit you not) did not understand math nor the logistics of scaling the Holocaust to a planet.

The Ferengi are the cool banker Jews as I understand it. They are unironically the “With Jews you win” Jews and the Bajoran workers are Israeli fanatics planning false flags.

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Yeah ok, I've seen the /trek/ memes too, but holy shit, anon, you've retrofitted them with Trump-era terms. DS9 aired in pre-9/11. "False flag” and “psyop” weren’t in the vocabulary like you're implying. Bajorans are straight-up Viet Cong, barely competent and stealing leftovers like raccoons.

If you’d said Vulcans were ZOG than maybe I’d go with you on that. They’ve got receipts for pulling ceasefire bait-and-switches and staging attacks around their own sacred rocks just to make Andorians look like violent apes.

The Bajorans did terrorist shit. False flag and ops designed around demoralization are in that bag of tricks.

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No, the Bajorans on the show didn’t stage any false flag attacks. They didn’t have the resources, the governmental backing, or frankly the need.

Also, no one’s seriously arguing they were morally superior saints. The point, made rather clearly by the show, is that by the end, both the Bajorans and the Cardassians realized they’d learned a few things from each other and, eventually, found some common ground.

roddenberry was a hollywood oldfag at that point. wouldn't be the first to (((notice))), lot of people draw inspiration from experience.


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All this talk about Bajorans = Jews is really more of a side effect of the Cardassians = Nazis*. As @Captain Syrup said, they have more in common with the Viet Cong and Provisional-IRA than Israeli revolutionary/terrorist forces like Irgun/Lehi (although the Bajorans were something of a chop suey of 20th Century resistance groups seen through a lefty Hollywood lens). In fact, I would argue Bajorans, with religion being so prominent, had most in common with late-20th Century Palestinians/PLO than late-20th Century Israelis/Jews. The few more religious extremist/xenophobic Bajorans were like Hamas/Taliban I guess (although the blue-haired writer(s) would’ve known more of Ayatollah’s Iran in the 90s)?

Tldr: writers probably were thinking about Jews when making Bajorans the victims of “Nazi Cardassians”*, but they unintentionally made space Palestinians. When talking to friends, I just call Bajorans “Schroedinger’s Space-Levantines”.

*I just realized I revived the “Israelis are the real Nazis” talking point lefties often make (going all the way back to Monty Python’s “Life of Brian” deleted scene with the suicidal Jewish Nazis). I think the writers unintentionally made something “problematic” to their modern lefty sensibilities, which is just hysterical to watch.

 

[2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious]

Life on Mars (US)

The original Life on Mars (UK) had as good an ending as you could hope for, for a show with the tagline "am I mad, in a coma or back in time?"

And then Ashes to Ashes had to trample all over the mystique with its own ending.

 

[Captain Syrup]

The original Life on Mars (UK) had as good an ending as you could hope for, for a show with the tagline "am I mad, in a coma or back in time?"

And then Ashes to Ashes had to trample all over the mystique with its own ending.

I considered mentioning how terrible Ashes to Ashes was, but acknowledging it exists is more depressing than just lying to myself.

 

[The greater a'tuin]

Cobra Kai season 5's finale was a hot mess. The whole season Daniel is like "Terry's a 4-D chess mastermind, we can't just go to his house and beat him up!" then they just go to his house and beat him up, while drunk at that. Johnny coughs up a corny power of love boost to defeat Silver's stooges. Terry is about to kill Chozen with a katana oh but not really. Terry gets arrested by Stingray retconning his testimony (is that even allowed?) but it proves pointless since he's out in the next season, nor does Kreese face consequences for his dramatically ironic prison break. This all just messed up the flow for the big international tournament's hype.

 

[LazyLizard]

Castle, original showrunner leaves and it really shows in the writing of season 8, they introduce a new black british girl for Castle to get together with even thought the whole series has been about his and Becketts relationship. it ends with both of them being shot with the plan being to kill the fan favorite character Beckett but it got cancelled so they had to quickly rush a 1 minute scene of them surviving getting shot, having 3 kids and living happily ever after, it's so abrupt and doesn't fit when the whole season has been them falling out of love to set him up with the new black chick.

then there's the whole behind the scenes drama about Nathan Fillion and Stana Katic, apparently they began hating each other or at least Fillion really hated Katic and was verbally abusive towards her to the point she would spend her days crying in her trailer.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Terry gets arrested by Stingray retconning his testimony (is that even allowed?)

I think it is in this case as Stingray's testimony was given under threat. As much as he's a buffoon, he was truly terrorized by Silver. All of the money he got was not the real reason he didn't speak.

Terry is about to kill Chozen with a katana oh but not really.

Terry likely thought he was already dead because he was floating unconscious and he had to deal with two other guys in his house plus the invasion of the dojo. At most, he thought he didn't have to deal with him for the moment.

Daniel is like "Terry's a 4-D chess mastermind, we can't just go to his house and beat him up!" then they just go to his house and beat him up, while drunk at that.

I mean... yeah, but it's not Daniel who went. He wasn't for it and to be fair, if the kids didn't manage to break in their security system and expose Terry, then he had all reasons to accuse them all for trespassing.

Terry was arrested because Stingray finally confessed, and he only finally did so because the kids were gathering the evidence to prove he actually beat him (which they didn't, they got something else, hah). Mike, Chozen, and Johnny were lucky and the kids were also lucky that Terry was distracted. Otherwise, Daniel would have been right and all Terry had to say was "these people broke in my house and my dojo" and have them all arrested.

But in general, while I did enjoy the season, I think they focused too much on Terry and on top of it, too little on showing him being the strong fighter he is. Like, I would have preferred a fight between him and the trio rather than the trio vs his minions. The trio were very hammered, so he could have easily managed well. I wasn't disappointed with what I got, but I was a bit disappointed for not getting what I expected. Previous seasons were all about heart, this one was about Terry. Miguel and Robbie were practically inexistent here and them getting closer happened off screen.

 

[Ivan Daniloff]

Castle, original showrunner leaves and it really shows in the writing of season 8, they introduce a new black british girl for Castle to get together with even thought the whole series has been about his and Becketts relationship. it ends with both of them being shot with the plan being to kill the fan favorite character Beckett but it got cancelled so they had to quickly rush a 1 minute scene of them surviving getting shot, having 3 kids and living happily ever after, it's so abrupt and doesn't fit when the whole season has been them falling out of love to set him up with the new black chick.

then there's the whole behind the scenes drama about Nathan Fillion and Stana Katic, apparently they began hating each other or at least Fillion really hated Katic and was verbally abusive towards her to the point she would spend her days crying in her trailer.
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The hatred between these two people was for me the only reason to watch this show. Didn’t they start doing green screen scenes where they composited them together so they didn’t have to be on the set at the same time?

I also did a little trolling on various boards saying that Stana was a lez who slept with Nathan then resented him for ruining her sterling lesbianism. The Castle fans would be up in arms at any suggestion that Katic was to blame for the sorry state of affairs between the leads. I still have no idea if she is a lez. She reads “that way.”

 

[Captain Syrup]

The hatred between these two people was for me the only reason to watch this show. Didn’t they start doing green screen scenes where they composited them together so they didn’t have to be on the set at the same time?

This is probably my Fillon favoritism but every time Beckett shows up on-screen, I flash back to that Will Smith quote about Janet Hubert acting like she's on The Aunt Viv Show. Like she’s afraid that if someone else finishes a line, the director will teleport on set and recast her with a broom. Brutal.

 

[LazyLizard]

The hatred between these two people was for me the only reason to watch this show. Didn’t they start doing green screen scenes where they composited them together so they didn’t have to be on the set at the same time?

I also did a little trolling on various boards saying that Stana was a lez who slept with Nathan then resented him for ruining her sterling lesbianism. The Castle fans would be up in arms at any suggestion that Katic was to blame for the sorry state of affairs between the leads. I still have no idea if she is a lez. She reads “that way.”

she's married to a man and has a kid so probably not a lesbian

 

[goat sneed]

True Detective Season 1. Up until the last episodes it was a masterpiece. Then the ending ruins all the mysticism built up by revealing it was all human larpers rather than cthulu esque cult, and the final villain was a fat autist.

You just don't get it. The whole show is about people being the source of evil. Not the Devil or Carcosa but typical human vices. "Man is the cruelest animal". I don't know why people hated season two for everything but being the same thing, just more down to earth. Same circle of corrupt rich assholes, same stuff with sex cult, same "the old case comes to bite them in the ass" and every character is fighting their own set of demons. I bet if they hired PIzzolato again these days he would make a season about a certain... Island. And all the people who traveled there.

Late reply, but I think the first season is immaculate. It speaks to me specifically since I have genuine interest in all the satanic shit that was (and still is) hand waved as mass hysteria. Ironically, satanic ritual abuse is never really discussed in any critical reviews despite it being a central theme.
The ending is perfect. As the characters say, there is no way to truly end it all, they can only do so much. And by the end, both of them have transformed. Cohle is no longer as cynical and Hart is no longer as choleric.

As for the other endings...

Season two had an amazing cast and direction, but the story also went all over the place. Mock-Esalen institute, mafia bosses, sexual blackmail ring, ex-gay vet with his butt buddy that's somehow behind everything too? I like all the elements, but it feels like they tried to fit too much shit at once. Maybe two more episodes would have helped. Also the biggest plot hole for me is: how the fuck were the brother and sister duo somehow pulling all the strings? They were the victims in this so how would they gain leverage over massive criminal orgs?

Season three was obviously retracing the roots of the first one, but the ending was pretty underwhelming. "Yeah this rich lady just wanted a replacement kid and the little boy accidentally hit his head on a rock" Also, the constant time switches felt more disorienting than in season one.

Season four was really good atmospherically, but the whole racial and environmental shit felt forced. I love Jodie but the show was trying way too hard to make her look like an irrational racist, while her stepkid keeps talking down to her (wasn't she looking for CP in the first episode?) It also felt like a letdown when they just let the guy kill himself after how much time Jodie's partner tried to get justice on the murdered woman.
Fuck that environmentalist confession ending, she should have cut his nuts off.

 

[Taser Confetti]

It took years to unfuck the Ferengi into something vaguely inoffensive.

Quark is the only reason people still don't call for total Ferengi death.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Quark is the only reason people still don't call for total Ferengi death.

Honourable mention Leck.

 

[FlawlessCowboy]

Better Call Saul ends awfully. Saul/ Jimmy is okay and I can see what they were going for, but it doesn't really scream him taking responsibility. I feel like Kim got a playful smack on the bottom rather than any real comeuppance.

I know Bob Odenkirk had a heart attack and forced it, but it's kinda just a long drawn out fart to end the series.

 

[LecherousGranolaBar]

Samurai Jacks whole last season was a complete dumpster punctuated by that fucking awful finale episode.

I know the whole thing with Jack was getting back to the past but the fact that he did it without hesitation, not considering all the people he helped and all the friends he made over the years in Akus future rubbed me wrong. Like you didn't consider for even a second that you'd be erasing all of these people?

And I fucking hated that Aishi somehow lasted until the wedding so we could get an incredibly cheap emotional gut punch to end things on. Fuck off. I didn't even care about Aishi at all and I cared even less about that slapdash relationship she had with Jack in that season.

Whole last season felt like a rushed mess but I still saw people raving over it. Shit sucked ass.

 

[ShittlerNiggler]

Samurai Jacks whole last season was a complete dumpster punctuated by that fucking awful finale episode.

I know the whole thing with Jack was getting back to the past but the fact that he did it without hesitation, not considering all the people he helped and all the friends he made over the years in Akus future rubbed me wrong. Like you didn't consider for even a second that you'd be erasing all of these people?

And I fucking hated that Aishi somehow lasted until the wedding so we could get an incredibly cheap emotional gut punch to end things on. Fuck off. I didn't even care about Aishi at all and I cared even less about that slapdash relationship she had with Jack in that season.

Whole last season felt like a rushed mess but I still saw people raving over it. Shit sucked ass.

Considering it's a kids show it would've been way better if it ended with the message "You can't erase what already happened but you can make the future a better place". But no the millenial writers just had to make everything bad that ever happened go away with magic time travel.

 

[regalterry]

I didn't even care about Aishi at all and I cared even less about that slapdash relationship she had with Jack in that season.

They "fixed" the ending somewhat in the game.

Still completely baffling subversion, modern writers really don't understand what the point of subverting expectations in a story is (hint: it's not to piss off the audience).

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

They "fixed" the ending somewhat in the game.

Still completely baffling subversion, modern writers really don't understand what the point of subverting expectations in a story is (hint: it's not to piss off the audience).

I wouldn't call it subverting expectations, tragic love endings are pretty common in media, especially Japanese media. The issue that the love was undercooked, and that the tragedy just felt like the world kicking Jack in the balls for his trouble.

 

[regalterry]

and that the tragedy just felt like the world kicking Jack in the balls for his trouble

The problem is that the ending was a rugpull that completely blindsided audiences. Jack had won and had earned himself a happy ending.

Not every story must have a happy ending, and it's very subjective whether a story warrants a sad or happy one, but in this instance I feel that a happy ending works best.

 

[Kharash]

Samurai Jacks whole last season was a complete dumpster punctuated by that fucking awful finale episode.

I know the whole thing with Jack was getting back to the past but the fact that he did it without hesitation, not considering all the people he helped and all the friends he made over the years in Akus future rubbed me wrong. Like you didn't consider for even a second that you'd be erasing all of these people?

And I fucking hated that Aishi somehow lasted until the wedding so we could get an incredibly cheap emotional gut punch to end things on. Fuck off. I didn't even care about Aishi at all and I cared even less about that slapdash relationship she had with Jack in that season.

Whole last season felt like a rushed mess but I still saw people raving over it. Shit sucked ass.

It just felt like Gendy really wanted to make the first few episodes and then had no idea on what to do. I remember everyone shilling the season for the first few episodes and as time went on everyone just stopped talking about it because it sucked.