UN Panel recommends reparations in U.S. for slavery.

I am not shitting you.

http://www.phillytrib.com/metros/u-...074-e9d0-52db-8509-2a456bd993d5.html?mode=jqm

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WASHINGTON — The United States should consider reparations to African-American descendants of slavery, establish a national human rights commission and publicly acknowledge that the trans-Atlantic slave trade was a crime against humanity, a United Nations working group said Friday.


The U.N. Working Group of Experts on People of African Descent released its preliminary recommendations after more than a week of meetings with Black Americans and others from across the country, including Baltimore, Chicago, New York, Washington, D.C., and Jackson, Miss.

After finishing their fact-finding mission, the working group was “extremely concerned about the human rights situation of African-Americans,” chair Mireille Fanon Mendes-France of France said in the report. “The colonial history, the legacy of enslavement, racial subordination and segregation, racial terrorism and racial inequality in the U.S. remains a serious challenge as there has been no real commitment to reparations and to truth and reconciliation for people of African descent.”

For example, Mendes-France compared the recent deaths of unarmed Black men such as Michael Brown and Eric Garner at the hands of police to the lynchings of Black men in the South from the post-Civil War days through the Civil Rights era. Those deaths, and others, have inspired protests around the country under the Black Lives Matter moniker.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

Crack Cocaine and Detroit are enough reparations.

 

[Linako 2.0]

I have more native american blood in me because of muh aztecs and some other tribe in Mexico my great grandparents was from.
where is my free dosh?

 

[Cosmos]

Oh wow, the UN has really outdone itself this time.

I guess all the historic slave owning Arab states don't have to pay reparations because they ensured that their slaves had no descendants. More likely, the UN doesn't know about the other 99% of the slave trade.

It genuinely angers me that the Arab slave trade is never acknowledged when people place so much heat on the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Not only did the Arab slave trade predate the Atlantic one by centuries, in many ways, it was actually more brutal and barbaric. If you're interested in learning more, I highly recommend this article by Secular African called "Denials of Islamic Slavery." He's actually written quite a bit on the subject.

Of course, this doesn't invalidate the horrors of the trans-Atlantic slave trade or what slaves in America endured before the abolishment of slavery, but I feel like it's really important to condemn all forms of slavery instead of just picking on one.

Oh, and by the way, the West eventually wised up to how horrible slavery is and did everything in its power to abolish it. The United States fought a fucking civil war over the subject, that's how passionately people believed in the innate human rights of slaves. Too bad the Arab world never caught on and actively resisted outlawing slavery, only begrudgingly doing so after the United States, Britain, and other Western powers forced them into it.

The UN puts shit like Saudi Arabia in charge of a "human rights" panel, so its credibility is pretty damn low on the subject.

The UN is a fucking joke. It really is. It's more than happy to slap Israel, the US, and other developed nations with violations but is deafeningly silent when it comes to countries like Saudi Arabia, where human rights go to die.

but uh, we can just ignore the indians.. or mistreatment of everyone else.

I'm always bemused at how people who bend over backwards for African-Americans rarely have anything to say about Native Americans. Honestly, Native Americans have it way worse than black people nowadays. Reservations are often cesspools of abject poverty, substance abuse, and conditions that are unseen almost anywhere else in America (to the point where reservations are often compared to developing countries despite the fact they're located in a highly advanced global superpower), but Natives don't want to leave them because they're literally all they have left. But no, let's talk about how African-Americans deserve to be paid for something that hasn't directly affected any living person in the entire world.

Not saying that black people didn't endure a lot of pain and hardship, because they definitely did, but they're far from the only group that has suffered and it irritates me when people act like that's the case.

 

[Marvin]

I'm always bemused at how people who bend over backwards for African-Americans rarely have anything to say about Native Americans. Honestly, Native Americans have it way worse than black people nowadays. Reservations are often cesspools of abject poverty, substance abuse, and conditions that are unseen almost anywhere else in America (to the point where reservations are often compared to developing countries despite the fact they're located in a highly advanced global superpower), but Natives don't want to leave them because they're literally all they have left. But no, let's talk about how African-Americans deserve to be paid for something that hasn't directly affected any living person in the entire world.

Not saying that black people didn't endure a lot of pain and hardship, because they definitely did, but they're far from the only group that has suffered and it irritates me when people act like that's the case.

I really wish reservations would get eliminated. These little bizarre legal enclaves are maintained for archaic legal reasons. I don't blame anyone for wanting to hold on to them, but still, they're not good for anyone in the long term view of things.

 

[TheMightyMonarch]

This is just dumb. It's impractical as hell and these people who are demanding it just want free money that they don't have to work for and the hardship and horrors that their ancestors had to go through is nothing more than an afterthought to them. If this was right after the Civil War, then I would be totally for it. But 150 years later? What's the point?

I do think that there are a lot of problems in the black community in the U.S regarding poverty and economics. But reparations won't change anything for good.

 

[Vitriol]

This is utter BS to me, because along with civil rights, which any American rightfully deserves, they're asking for additional bullshit, that makes absolutely no sense. When you give something to someone who already feels a wrongful sense of entitlement, the demands will never end.
The black community's problem in the US is the black community, and its worship of outlandish and ridiculous behaviour, more so than your average racial or ethnic group. These people want to give money to women who kill each other over fake hair, not over men, not over their children, but over vanity.

You are fairly new. A good tip for posting in the forum in general and for DT and EN in particular is never to make a post in anger.

I'm going to leave your post as I think tge first part of it has a valid point but strongly recommend you read over it with a calm eye. Hyperbole has rarely worked well here.

 

[SlayerOfTyranny]

Why does the UN not care about actual slavery going in modern Africa or the sex slave trade that is happening everywhere in the developed and non developed world?

Because it doesn't have anything to do with actually helping or uplifting people and bettering the world and the human race for the benefit of all human beings.

That's just the makeup.

What it's really about is increasing the power wealth control and domination of the world and all the humans in it by a small elite few who only care for furthering their own selfish indulgences and interests instead of working for the betterment of humanity.

Before you cry "crazy conspiracy theory" consider this:

62 people have the same amount of wealth as the poorest half of the entire worlds population.

Source:

http://www.theguardian.com/business...naires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined

Did you know that 2.8 billion people live on less than $2 per day according to the UN?

The world population is around 7.4 billion.

Source:

http://www.un.org/en/globalissues/briefingpapers/food/vitalstats.shtml

If you look at the world you will see very clearly that the primary motivation is not helping your fellow man and working for the betterment of humanity.

Rather it's power and control.The survival of the fittest.

That the people in power are actually working to help you is just a farce and scam.Actually the primary function and purpose of the system is the mass enslavement and subjugation of the majority of human beings for the benefit of a sly few pulling the strings.

However this power is exerted not through direct means (e.g. a person wrestling someone to the ground and choking them out) but through indirect means aka mental manipulation.

Therefore the people actually have the power to resist and reject their own enslavement but simply do not use it because their minds are controlled rather than being up against a power that is impossible to defeat no matter what one does,such as a meteor hitting the earth and killing everyone.

 

[Vitriol]

Because it doesn't have anything to do with actually helping or uplifting people and bettering the world and the human race for the benefit of all human beings.

That's just the makeup.

What it's really about is increasing the power wealth control and domination of the world and all the humans in it by a small elite few who only care for furthering their own selfish indulgences and interests instead of working for the betterment of humanity.

Before you cry "crazy conspiracy theory" consider this:

62 people have the same amount of wealth as the poorest half of the entire worlds population.

Source:

http://www.theguardian.com/business...naires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined

Did you know that 2.8 billion people live on less than $2 per day according to the UN?

The world population is around 7.4 billion.

Source:

http://www.un.org/en/globalissues/briefingpapers/food/vitalstats.shtml

If you look at the world you will see very clearly that the primary motivation is not helping your fellow man and working for the betterment of humanity.

Rather it's power and control.The survival of the fittest.

That the people in power are actually working to help you is just a farce and scam.Actually the primary function and purpose of the system is the mass enslavement and subjugation of the majority of human beings for the benefit of a sly few pulling the strings.

However this power is exerted not through direct means (e.g. a person wrestling someone to the ground and choking them out) but through indirect means aka mental manipulation.

Therefore the people actually have the power to resist and reject their own enslavement but simply do not use it because their minds are controlled rather than being up against a power that is impossible to defeat no matter what one does,such as a meteor hitting the earth and killing everyone.

Are you talking about literal mind control?

 

[fuehrer_dessler]

Are you talking about literal mind control?

Depends on how much glue he huffed today.

 

[AnOminous]

Pretty sure this dude huffs gold spray paint.

That shit will fuck you up good.

 

[PantsOfDesire]

This is retarded. What about every other country involved in the slave trade? Do they have to pay reparations? If so, wouldn't literally everyone have to pay reparations to everyone else at some point? Where does it stop and when? If not, then why are they so inconsistent on their principles? (I get that the type advocating this just have a hateboner for the US and whites, but it certainly means they have problems if they don't advocate for it equally, even with their rhetoric about privilege and institutional oppression and such.)

What about how it's essentially treating people who had nothing to do with the crimes as if they are guilty of the offense? Is that not against the rights of the accused? Is that not what is so abhorrent about North Korea's system that punishes several generations after a given "offense"? What about how most of the people alive at the time of the slave trade and slavery in the United States did not own slaves? What about all the immigrants who came after the slave trade was gone? Are they and their descendants also responsible?

Also, part of their recommendation about it is to put up statues and the like to open up a dialogue about slavery and the United States, which is retarded. People already discuss it quite a lot and it's understood to be abhorrent. Even the most racist of assholes know, unless they're completely fucktarded, that they shouldn't advocate for slavery because of the fallout of such a position.

Point is, this sort of original sin type bullshit makes no sense. You cannot control what your ancestors did and you are not them, yet these fools act as if you are precisely the same as them for sharing the same skin color, even if you have no descent from those who acted like that. Even if you were descended from slave owners and Confederates, you are not them, yet these fools would act like they are the same. It's disgusting.

The statues idea is the classic "raising awareness" bullshit. As you noted, we're aware that slavery happened and that most people don't want it to come back. So what point does this serve? Well, I see two purposes:

1. Make someone feel as if they've done something useful. Fuck building statues. Let them reblog, retweet, or like something on Facebook - it has the same worth.
2. Keep blacks mired in victimhood, thus condemning them to many more generations of underachievement because of the lie that any failure can be ascribed to the white patriarchy.

It's bullshit, and there's no way to quantify reparations. An apology and a statue from whitey isn't going to stop your business from being looted by your protesting brothers and sisters.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

As soon as Moscow mails me a check for murdering my ancestors and forcing my great-grandparents to flee Russia due to pogroms, I will happily share a portion of it with black people.

 

[fuehrer_dessler]

My grandma was in the besieged Leningrad during WWII, where are my moneyz?

 

[ZehnBoat]

My grandma was in the besieged Leningrad during WWII, where are my moneyz?

i know i've made this joke, and everyone else too.
but it proves the point of the joke
everyone can basically go through their ancestry and see they were mistreated.
and everyone has mistreated others. so on and so forth
focusing on one group as special is actually extremely racist.
if they care so much about blacks in the US they should be focusing on removing what racism against them is left in the US.
trying to make things more equal for them, instead of "lol here's money for the suffering of others, ur perfect the way u r"

because i guess they think blacks are too stupid to stand on their own two feet?

 

[Splendid]

I demand reparations from the British government for what they did to the Irish.

 

[John Titor]

My ancestors were screwed over and while I am not going to ask for reparations, could all the combatants involved at least clean up the trash they left behind?

 

[KingGeedorah]

I never met my ancestors so shit don't matter.

I DO blame them for my families weak genes though. Fuck you guys.