Tumblr Shitstorm Thread - Now Female-Presenting-Nipple-Free... We Think

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BlankSlate dijo:
I got an autistic question. What kind of cp was hosted? Are we talking the occasional 17 year old? Or some darker shit?

Pls no lynch
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Darker. Way darker. Brace yourself, because that hole has no bottom.

Social Media as a whole has a longstanding practice of allowing such content on their networks, to the point where it's an open secret. Some of it is legit (NSA/FBI interests using it as a honeypot), but a lot of it isn't. About 2 years ago, a massive series of child porn rings were unearthed on Twitter, and, rather than do anything about them, Twitter banned anyone who tried to name-and-shame (The FBI, meanwhile, was purportedly glad for the tipoffs). As much as I'd love to insult Twitter over this (and will cheerfully savage individual users over it), Safe Harbor laws exist for this fucking reason.

So Tumblr then. It's way worse.

Key to this is a moderator/admin base that does not bother to even look into complaints. Veterans of the Tumblr subforum will tell you: Death threats, doxings, advocacy for violence against people, and other actions that fall into the category of actionable by law enforcement frequently take days, weeks, or even months and dozens if not hundreds of reports on a given site for Tumblr's staff to take any action (unless you badmouth Brianna Wu and say, post indisputable proof she never graduated, in which case your post will be baleeted because backchannels).

Because Tumblr's admin staff can't be arsed to its job, the worst sort of shit metastasizes across the platform. Entire networks of people calling for the ability to fuck children, people into bestiality, and worse are all commonly found and allowed to stick around until someone reports them enough, which the overarching userbase of Tumblr (mostly Social Justice asshats and people who would be content to be left alone) don't ever do - because the latter group doesn't go looking for it and the former group thinks "minor attracted people" are fine.

Tumblr's tried to clean things up in the last five years but all it's done is make the problem worse: Prosecuting the comparatively normal porn tumblrs that aren't causing any problems, but flat-out pretending the child porn, bestiality, and similar tumblrs don't exist. Again, the problem is, according to most, that Tumblr's staff simply expected algorithms to solve all problems and then washed their hands of it.

I'd be happy to give Tumblr the defense of the Safe Harbor protection loophole, since, again, you're going to have this content on any network that allows user-uploaded content - but in Tumblr's case they pathologically have done nothing but enable this shit and taken zero action over it.
 
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Well, they'll have to fix the problem now that this hit the news, won't they? Otherwise they're going to get an influx of pervos looking for Cheese Pizza.




... yeah, I know they won't fix it :heart-empty:
 
Jaimas dijo:
Darker. Way darker. Brace yourself, because that hole has no bottom.

Social Media as a whole has a longstanding practice of allowing such content on their networks, to the point where it's an open secret. Some of it is legit (NSA/FBI interests using it as a honeypot), but a lot of it isn't. About 2 years ago, a massive series of child porn rings were unearthed on Twitter, and, rather than do anything about them, Twitter banned anyone who tried to name-and-shame (The FBI, meanwhile, was purportedly glad for the tipoffs). As much as I'd love to insult Twitter over this (and will cheerfully savage individual users over it), Safe Harbor laws exist for this fucking reason.

So Tumblr then. It's way worse.

Key to this is a moderator/admin base that does not bother to even look into complaints. Veterans of the Tumblr subforum will tell you: Death threats, doxings, advocacy for violence against people, and other actions that fall into the category of actionable by law enforcement frequently take days, weeks, or even months and dozens if not hundreds of reports on a given site for Tumblr's staff to take any action (unless you badmouth Brianna Wu and say, post indisputable proof she never graduated, in which case your post will be baleeted because backchannels).

Because Tumblr's admin staff can't be arsed to its job, the worst sort of shit metastasizes across the platform. Entire networks of people calling for the ability to fuck children, people into bestiality, and worse are all commonly found and allowed to stick around until someone reports them enough, which the overarching userbase of Tumblr (mostly Social Justice asshats and people who would be content to be left alone) don't ever do - because the latter group doesn't go looking for it and the former group thinks "minor attracted people" are fine.

Tumblr's tried to clean things up in the last five years but all it's done is make the problem worse: Prosecuting the comparatively normal porn tumblrs that aren't causing any problems, but flat-out pretending the child porn, bestiality, and similar tumblrs don't exist. Again, the problem is, according to most, that Tumblr's staff simply expected algorithms to solve all problems and then washed their hands of it.

I'd be happy to give Tumblr the defense of the Safe Harbor protection loophole, since, again, you're going to have this content on any network that allows user-uploaded content - but in Tumblr's case they pathologically have done nothing but enable this shit and taken zero action over it.
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Thats unsurprisingly depressing. Thanks for the info
 
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From what I've heard thus far, a lot of the issue stems from 'jailbait images' posted on blogs. It's tough because those are in a bit of a legal grey area. 'Jailbait images' are photos of preteen or teen girls (or occasionally boys) in swimsuits or revealing clothing taken from legitimate commercial sources (like advertisements for clothing) or private sources (family Facebook accounts, the kids' Snapchat, instagram, and twitter accounts for instance) that a non-pedo would find innocuous. But, pedophiles save them and share them in inappropriate contexts while making inappropriate comments.

The problem is the context that makes it inappropriate, not the image in and of itself, so the law can't do much because there is a legitimate non pornographic purpose of the images (advertising, self expression, families posting pictures of events) and restricting it would paradoxically sexualise it more. It was not created to solely arouse, so it isn't classified as obscene or pornographic. Sometimes, the images themselves come from other Tumblr users (remember, teen girls are a big demographic on Tumblr) posting pics of themselves and then getting accosted by creeps, which is horrible and most certainly sexual harassment.

So, the safest bet was taking the app off the store to figure out what to do about these jailbait images, because the law may not leave much recourse.
 
PorcupineTree dijo:
Just saw this insight from tumblr user golbatgender.

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Can we just have one conversation about cp being bad without someone crying that it’s queer oppression?
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A normal person: Man it’s really gross that Tumblr has kiddy porn rings so massive and brazen that even the Apple store had to distance themselves from that cesspool-

Tumblr Gremlins: WHY DO YOU HATE QUEERS SO MUCH THIS IS TRUMP’S FAULT SOMEHOW REEEEEE
 
hmm...if i didn't know better (like a good kiwi, i know it's the ess jay double yews that done it, and not the normal, chill people who like committing horrible sexual atrocities with each other, as seen on this very subforum) , i'd almost say that there's kiddie porn on tumblr because of all the gays there, a group of people statistically more likely to abuse kids...glad i know better tho
 
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I have to say I've seen a respectable amount of people on tumblr being ok with the site shutting down permanently to get rid of it as an avenue for CP, whether thats just lip service is up to anyones guess but I'm surprised there haven't been many outright chimpouts over it. Maybe I just follow the right people?
 
yawning sneasel dijo:
tumblr will prob die because of this. even if they get put back on the iOS store, deleting all the content they will probably delete and placing additional restrictions will prob decrease engagement. Hell, social media engagement is down in general. Facebook's dropped 50% in 18 months from 2017 to mid-2018. I think in general people are starting to pull back from oversharing shit in public on the internet.
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First 4chan, now tumblr. Things are really shaking up this week.
 
Terrorist dijo:
hmm...if i didn't know better (like a good kiwi, i know it's the ess jay double yews that done it, and not the normal, chill people who like committing horrible sexual atrocities with each other as post on these very forums) , i'd almost say that there's kiddie porn on tumblr because of all the gays there, a group of people statistically more likely to abuse kids...glad i know better tho
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It’s the most easily accessible red herring. SJWs won’t accept anyone who doesn’t at least pretend to be gay, and they’ll protect illegal behavior so long as they think you’re oppressed.
 
Tumblr's staff is absolutely shitty at it's job. Even back when Xkit was a relatively new thing ( not the "new" xkit, but rather the one made by the xkit guy before he got ran off ), staff was entirely aware of their website's problems. Instead of fixing these problems, they apparently made updates that were specifically targeted to block Xkit from working. People complained ( understandably ), but to my memory staff did nothing except say " we're sorry you feel this way :( ".

Not surprised that they've worsened and ignored MAPs, their absolutely shitty NSFW function, and ignored the countless reports on blogs that actually posted legit RL CP.

Say what you want about tumblr's userbase, but their staff are a bunch of ignorant morons.
 
gachacunt dijo:
Tumblr's staff is absolutely shitty at it's job. Even back when Xkit was a relatively new thing ( not the "new" xkit, but rather the one made by the xkit guy before he got ran off ), staff was entirely aware of their website's problems. Instead of fixing these problems, they apparently made updates that were specifically targeted to block Xkit from working. People complained ( understandably ), but to my memory staff did nothing except say " we're sorry you feel this way :( ".

Not surprised that they've worsened and ignored MAPs, their absolutely shitty NSFW function, and ignored the countless reports on blogs that actually posted legit RL CP.

Say what you want about tumblr's userbase, but their staff are a bunch of ignorant morons.
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I know who they should hire to moderate.
 
HeraldofNurgle dijo:
Tumblr is a horrendous hellsite from the get go, because it echo chambers mental illness to a point that people get angry over everything. You could honestly say the sky is blue and you'll get a bunch of people attacking you, and telling you to check your color vision privilege and how this post is erasing color blind people. Kids go on tumblr looking for acceptance and all they get is being dragged into a crab bucket where one wrong move gets you eviscerated.

Not only is CP a huge problem on tumblr, but also bestiality stuff. There were so many blogs running campaigns to get tumblr to ban some of the more notorious ones, but nothing ever came of it. What would happen is that call out blogs will get deleted instead for 'harassment'. Staff honestly, does not care, and I am so happy to see them getting consequences for it.

Tumblr is a site where pedophiles feel safe because muh oppression so the whole thing can get nuked.
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It sounds like an exaggeration, but tumblr really is the hellhole no other site has ever been. I occasionally end up there through google searches, and every single woman on that website is fucked in the head. It's no wonder that NPCs think everyone to the right of a flaming faggot Pol Pot is literally Hitler. Every single user there is too scared shitless to be anything but a buzzword-gumbo sexual who can't refuse anybody. Every active account has social justice struggle sessions, memes about what perpetual victims they are, and how they can't be held responsible for anything in their lives, until it comes time to grovel for forgiveness for being white. :stress: These people have been ruined.
 
Maggots on a Train v2 dijo:
It sounds like an exaggeration, but tumblr really is the hellhole no other site has ever been. I occasionally end up there through google searches, and every single woman on that website is fucked in the head. It's no wonder that NPCs think everyone to the right of a flaming faggot Pol Pot is literally Hitler. Every single user there is too scared shitless to be anything but a buzzword-gumbo sexual who can't refuse anybody. Every active account has social justice struggle sessions, memes about what perpetual victims they are, and how they can't be held responsible for anything in their lives, until it comes time to grovel for forgiveness for being white. :stress: These people have been ruined.
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What is it that leads to this ridiculous mentality that's so prevalent on Tumblr, anyway? I get that it's an echo chamber, but I thought the point of echo chambers were to make the people in them feel good about themselves. Tumblr's echo chamber shames teenagers about being white even if they don't hold any racist beliefs. I don't understand the appeal of a mindset that you're terrible because of how you were born. And with the way their silly callouts are, once you're popular enough for them to dig into you, if you've done one thing that isn't PC enough, you're branded Hitler for life.

The kids who go on Tumblr to talk about cartoons and books before getting indoctrinated might benefit from Tumblr getting killed and having to move to a community where everyone doesn't just circle jerk over how everybody's a literal Nazi.

Then again, they may just take over those websites instead, I doubt Tumblr started out as the dumpster fire it is.

And seeing posts acting like the CP issue is people attacking "queer folks" is nauseating. Pedos don't belong in LGBT. If there's one group that should be oppressed it's pedos.
 
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