💬 Off-Topic Transgenderism and Religion. - When trannies seek God (or hate him).

[OutInTheRain]

Do you truly think you can't possibly believe in god if you fuck same sex?

I didn't say that. I know that there are many gay men and lesbian women who quietly go to church and are humble members of the Christian faith.

What I am saying is you have people who make the church about themselves. Sin of pride and all that bad stuff. That they must be celebrated and elevated. That the church must change to suit them. Or to suit some political aim, like the Catholic church currently.

Professing a vague belief that Jesus was just nice. Does not make one a Christian, nor does it mean that person has faith. For example the United Church of Canada has atheist ministers.

 

[Stan]

i like how the pooner is doing damage control here

That’s how god intended it!

 

[NoCockatrice]

United Church of Canada has atheist ministers.

Canada

not surprised, but still

 

[Disastrously Dumb]

Buddhism can be seen as androgynous in its ultimate spiritual goals, where the highest teachings like egolessness and emptiness transcend gender altogether. Symbolically, figures like the Buddha and bodhisattvas are often depicted with androgynous features to represent this transcendence, and some traditions use the union of masculine and feminine principles (like compassion and wisdom) to symbolize the path to enlightenment.


Note how "egolessness" is the key to enlightenment


im just pointing it out there, that transgenders especially western transgenders are so far in the opposite direction
that we know for a fact, alot of self-proclaimed buddhist trannies in California probably believe they are the closest to enlightenment
mistaking their own bloated narcissistic egos as selflessness, empathy and compassion.

 

[NoCockatrice]

buddhist trannies in California

I bet they got into buddhism because of anime

 

[Stan]

Gay men love the church. Specifically the Catholic church with all the outfits and decorations and access to altar boys. Lesbians love having a captive audience they can guilt and shame into listening to them. They care nothing for the religion, they care nothing for the beliefs.

They just want to play dress up and bloviate. That's why they are sneaking in. Subverting the institution is just a bonus.

No matter what they say or what scripture they cite I do really doubt they’re making a good faith effort to follow Jesus. Jesus does not seem the kind of guy who would care about troonery either way; nor gayness; but if someone coming to church hoping to talk about sexual orientation or troon gender fantasies I think they have come to the wrong place.

ultimate spiritual goals, where the highest teachings like egolessness and emptiness transcend gender altogether. Symbolically, figures like the Buddha and bodhisattvas are often depicted with androgynous features to represent this transcendence, and some traditions use the union of masculine and feminine principles (like compassion and wisdom) to symbolize the path to enlightenment.


Note how "egolessness" is the key to enlightenment

There’s Pauline scripture (Galatians) that echoes a similar sentiment: in god there is no Jew or gentile, male or female, slave nor free. Trannies quote this all the time to justify troonery and it seems like a reading comprehension problem to me. If you believe

Ps sry I hit post too soon by accident…

But if you believe there is no male or female in the Kingdom of Heaven why would you be so intent on changing your gender here in the now? Like what’s the point of that? If there is no sex or class differences in the world to come why be so preoccupied with them now?

 

[Comfy Summer]

Church-Burning Fantasies to Real Fire: Violent Oklahoma Trans Activist Charged Over Another Arson Attack​

STILLWATER, Okla. — A 35-year-old transgender activist and sex worker was arrested after allegedly setting fire to an occupied apartment building during a standoff with police in Payne County.

Cassidy Mal Lyss (“Malice”), of Stillwater, was the suspect in an assault and battery reported to police on Nov. 10. When police officers responded to his apartment, he barricaded himself inside, threatened to burn the place down and then allegedly started a fire, according to a police statement.

The suspect is a man who was previously known as Nathan Herbert Click. He tried to escape through a bedroom window during the fire and was apprehended. Firefighters extinguished the flames before they spread to other apartments.


Nathan Herbert Click changed his name to Cassidy Mal Lyss (‘Malice’)

Click was charged with first-degree arson, assault and battery, first-degree robbery, obstructing an officer and threatening to perform an act of violence.

He has an extensive and disturbing criminal history. In 2022, he was charged with setting fire to his room in his family’s home and fleeing while his mother was still inside the home. She called 911, and no one was injured. He was convicted of first-degree arson and sentenced to 10 years in prison, with most of the prison term suspended except for six months. He was ordered to pay only $100 in restitution to his mother.


A 2022 booking photo of trans activist Nathan Click

Click violated his probation, and he served 60 days in jail.

Six days before the Nov. 10 incident, on Nov. 4, Click pleaded guilty to assault with a dangerous weapon, larceny of merchandise from a retailer and public intoxication stemming from incidents in August.

Prosecutors have filed a motion to revoke his suspended sentence following the latest arson incident.

As recently as August, Click wrote on Facebook, “May I start burning Churches yet?” Click was active on social media, posting photos of himself, images of the trans flag and promoting his sex work on OnlyFans and other adult websites.

“Damn, I thought I was Hot..Cant [sic] even make a real living selling my body,” he complained in another post.

Click’s bond is set at $75,000. He remains in custody.

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These freaks are getting more and more extreme...

in Warsaw University can you pursue a degree in "Artes Liberales" (liberal arts), in this degree you can freely pick any subject you want
one of those subjects on a post-graduate level is "feminist and queer jewish theologies" and its exactly how it sounds like, judaist theology from a "feminist" and "queer" point of view
it speaks volumes when every book on the subject is only in english
and that includes trannies

during the course you will read such pinnacle of literature as The Soul of the Stranger: Reading God and Torah From a Transgender Perspective
but thats only the required read, theres also a list of optional literature

• Gender and Judaism: The Transformation of Tradition
• On transition: normative Judaism and trans innovation
• In the Image of God, God Created Them: Toward Trans Theology

overall i genuinely couldnt believe my eyes when i first saw it

Do you have that in Eastern Europe? They are really everywhere.

I don't understand a thing about Judaism, but I heard troons talking about the six genders of Talmud. I'm guessing that's just an invention.

 

[Disastrously Dumb]

I bet they got into buddhism because of anime

true. because you know for a fact these psuedo-intellectuals watch anime, look at shinto buddhism
and think its the same as buddhism

 

[Sieg1888]

Trannies need to choose Deen over Dunya.

Speaking of that, it's surprising that Christianity is the troons most likely religious option. I would've imagined the options of Islam, unlimited virgin rape, "boy" servants, substance abuse, etc... would be of higher interest to sexual deviants.

Note how "egolessness" is the key to enlightenment

Is this not also a key part of becoming a "Bimbo"? I think you're onto something here.

 

[OutInTheRain]

No matter what they say or what scripture they cite I do really doubt they’re making a good faith effort to follow Jesus. Jesus does not seem the kind of guy who would care about troonery either way; nor gayness; but if someone coming to church hoping to talk about sexual orientation or troon gender fantasies I think they have come to the wrong place.

You can't go from Mass to the bath house and getting your back blown out by strange men and claim to be a good christian, or a christian in general. There are many people, straight and gay who wear the title as an accessory, without realizing the true meaning that goes with it. Paying lip service to the idea. We're all guilty of this to a certain extent. Many of us have self images that don't conform to the reality of who we are, and just as many cling to a title as the one thing in their life that gives them meaning.

 

[Disastrously Dumb]

Ps sry I hit post too soon by accident…

But if you believe there is no male or female in the Kingdom of Heaven why would you be so intent on changing your gender here in the now? Like what’s the point of that? If there is no sex or class differences in the world to come why be so preoccupied with them now?

because they are all mentally ill
who doesnt know what they want
and literally views life as "the grass is green on the otherside, so let me leap over the fence. Oh theres no way back? oh the grass isnt greener, it was just morning dew which'll disappear in an hour? well time to convince myself and the world that I made the best decision of my life and why everyone else is wrong"

"HEY GUYS, LOOK AT YOU ALL JUDGING ME. ATLEAST I MADE THE RIGHT CALL, I JUMPED THE FENCE AND IM ON THE GREEN GRASS NOW! HAH! SO WHAT IF ITS FILLED WITH SPIDERS?! ATLEAST IM BRAVE AND STUNNING ENOUGH TO MAKE THE LEAP AND LOOK HOW HAPPY I AM! HAHAHA! EVEN NOW AS THE SPIDERS CRAWL INTO MY EARS AND NOSE AND MOUTH! IM SO FUCKING AMAZING"


thats... transgenders in western civilization.

 

[Stan]

Do you have that in Eastern Europe? They are really everywhere.

I don't understand a thing about Judaism, but I heard troons talking about the six genders of Talmud. I'm guessing that's just an invention

I got a bit of history with Jews so maybe I can explain.

The othodox and ultra orthodox shuls are on a zero tolerance policy for troonery even though the Talmud and Kabbalah describe ascending spiritual levels that are gendered. (NB Hebrew is heavily grammatically gendered; there are two genders, male and female (no neuter gender) and gender is inflected in verbs and adjectives so that grammatical gender will be immediately apparent basically in every case.) I would not be surprised if the Reform Kabbalah Transgender ideology is some bastardization coming out of Reform Judaism because they misunderstand the Hebrew and the Talmud and the notion that God is “male” but also omnipotent.

I’m pretty sure you could lead a cow into a Reform shul on Sabbath and say it’s a Jew and the rabbi would agree with you. They are pretty degraded, kinda like Episcopals.

In any case the shuls with standards are pretty clear that you can’t change sexes and it’s not permissible to get bottom surgery to make yourself seem like the opposite sex. Doing gender transition is taboo for the same reason tattoos are taboo; you’re messing with Gods intention for yourself. Technically post op trannies aren’t allowed in either worship section (male or female) but this problem doesn’t practically arise except in the most pozzed and left wing shuls who won’t enforce those rules.

We're all guilty of this to a certain extent. Many of us have self images that don't conform to the reality of who we are, and just as many cling to a title as the one thing in their life that gives them meaning.

Ofc to an extent, I know I’m no paragon, but it’s still my responsibility to protect the kids from gender stuff I know doesn’t belong here. The photos I have seen of Episcopal parents (sometimes as a church community!) taking their young kids to Pride parades is deeply unsettling to me. Thats not inclusivity or radical acceptance that’s just rolling out the welcome mat for groomers. The church is smart enough to know where to draw the line with thieves but god forbid we insult Alice.

HEY GUYS, LOOK AT YOU ALL JUDGING ME. ATLEAST I MADE THE RIGHT CALL, I JUMPED THE FENCE AND IM ON THE GREEN GRASS NOW! HAH! SO WHAT IF ITS FILLED WITH SPIDERS?! ATLEAST IM BRAVE AND STUNNING ENOUGH TO MAKE THE LEAP AND LOOK HOW HAPPY I AM! HAHAHA! EVEN NOW AS THE SPIDERS CRAWL INTO MY EARS AND NOSE AND MOUTH! IM SO FUCKING AMAZING"

Pick up your cross and follow me
Just do whatever makes you feel good and validated no matter how costly
- troons interpreting scripture

 

[Positron]

What I am saying is you have people who make the church about themselves. Sin of pride and all that bad stuff.

The LGBTQ see the church to be a territory to be conquered, just like the female changing rooms and child care facilities. That's why they stage all sort of blasphemous bullshit. This is exactly like dogs pissing to mark the territory.

 

[OutInTheRain]

Ofc to an extent, I know I’m no paragon, but it’s still my responsibility to protect the kids from gender stuff I know doesn’t belong here. The photos I have seen of Episcopal parents (sometimes as a church community!) taking their young kids to Pride parades is deeply unsettling to me. Thats not inclusivity or radical acceptance that’s just rolling out the welcome mat for groomers. The church is smart enough to know where to draw the line with thieves but god forbid we insult Alice.

Kids want to please their parents, they are sponges for all kinds of information. There is also a nascent inborn trust they have for their parents. That is why taking kids to these parades seems so awful to me.

You have a parade filled with people who are degenerates, acting in degenerate ways out for all the world to see. People for whom they have no kids and many don't have the life milestones that grant the maturity to not be a massive dipshit in public. Many of them don't know better, or don't care. You also have those that get off on it.

Then there are these parents who should know better, who are exposing their kids to this. Someone has to be the adult and go "huh...that dude in a jockstrap and dogmask being led around on a leash by a man dressed like a demon clown is not something my kids need to see." Those parents are dragging their kids to these parades not for the kids to teach them a lesson, but for themselves. For their own ego to prove just how open minded and accepting they are.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Kids want to please their parents, they are sponges for all kinds of information. There is also a nascent inborn trust they have for their parents. That is why taking kids to these parades seems so awful to me.

You have a parade filled with people who are degenerates, acting in degenerate ways out for all the world to see. People for whom they have no kids and many don't have the life milestones that grant the maturity to not be a massive dipshit in public. Many of them don't know better, or don't care. You also have those that get off on it.

Then there are these parents who should know better, who are exposing their kids to this. Someone has to be the adult and go "huh...that dude in a jockstrap and dogmask being led around on a leash by a man dressed like a demon clown is not something my kids need to see." Those parents are dragging their kids to these parades not for the kids to teach them a lesson, but for themselves. For their own ego to prove just how open minded and accepting they are.

The kids who bring their Nintendo 3DS or Switch consoles to distract themselves with from all the shenanigans are the ones where there's still hope for them.

 

[Boggy B]

Bit mean of the devil to prey on the socially atomized. But I suppose that's not really anything new either.

 

[Comfy Summer]

You need to learn all LGBT fetish pride flags or you're being exclusionary

"Leather subculture", this is just hardcore BDSM fetish lol. The parishioners should google Folsom Street Fair to learn about this wonderful culture.

Rev. 'Gwen' Fry

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10 years ago he was kicked out from his position for being a tranny, now he's back with "much work left to do" (said work is all about empowering trannies).

The othodox and ultra orthodox shuls are on a zero tolerance policy for troonery even though the Talmud and Kabbalah describe ascending spiritual levels that are gendered. (NB Hebrew is heavily grammatically gendered; there are two genders, male and female (no neuter gender) and gender is inflected in verbs and adjectives so that grammatical gender will be immediately apparent basically in every case.) I would not be surprised if the Reform Kabbalah Transgender ideology is some bastardization coming out of Reform Judaism because they misunderstand the Hebrew and the Talmud and the notion that God is “male” but also omnipotent.

Thanks for the info. It shows how every religion can be changed with enough effort, there's nothing safe from it. There's nothing like transgenderism in past ages, it's a modern thing, so I very much doubt any old document would have anything in support of it.

I might be wrong, but I have the impression Jews are either very rigid, or very lax enabling all kinds of debauchery. The most troon-supporting demography in America is Jews, many of them secular, but I'm guessing there are many religious as well. The gap between traditional and liberal among Christians seems more nuanced.

 

[Jacques1194]

I don't know if this is topical, but I guess since its transgenderism and religion I'll vent about this. I repeat this a lot but I don't understand how atheists and those who believe in naturalism can be supportive of transgenderism. The whole concept of someone being born as the wrong gender to me only works if you believe in a soul or a past self that you remember. I know some will argue that transgenderism can exist in a natural world and argue with brain chemistry but even still, if the brain is nothing more than a "chemical reaction" why should anyone believe your brain is correct about you having a "woman" brain? Its just a "chemical reaction" according to naturalism. Even some of the pro trans arguments boil down to "Its how the person sees being a man, woman, or non binary" but I swear that religious people use this argument to explain God as a concept and yet these atheists mock them. Why do transgender people get a free pass when their entire concept of man, woman, and gender in general comes down to how the person sees it?

 

[█████████]

Surprised no one's posted the Blaire White religion video here yet.

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I haven't read most of the replies here (nor do I care to tbh), but I think "becoming a born again Christian" is just becoming the new grift for people to latch onto. It makes sense since people become more religious when times are worse. But it's ironic and funny considering a lot of these Christian influencers online live lives completely antithetical to the Bible (see: all the lolicon pedo "Christians", tranny "Christians", megachurch multimillionaires, etc). I'm not a Christian but find this trend interesting. I think American Christianity in general just kinda does away with whatever parts of the Bible they deem inconvenient, like how most American Christians aren't chaste at all.

i like how the pooner is doing damage control here

She does this in all the tranny threads.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I think American Christianity in general just kinda does away with whatever parts of the Bible they deem inconvenient, like how most American Christians aren't chaste at all.

The increasing religiosity would only be a good thing if they also did away with all the bullshit that caused those hard times in the first place. Like the aforementioned sexual immorality, the breakdown of families, and the gender-bending fetish that Blaire White still refuses to part with.

If thy right hand offend thee....