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[Snack Cracker]

the not enforcing strict gender roles stuff is good advice generally but it’s often commented upon how none of that is seemingly relevant to current era troons and poons. Troons like hentai, warhammer, guns whatever. Pooners like crochet, bl, and experimenting with makeup.

The hsts trooning out is obviously more likely to be rooted in trauma around their gender role/sexuality (Blaire white is an example, seems his dad used to beat him for being gay) but the agps, no.

generally hentai and warhammer etc are in the realm of straight guys who have lived life terminally online and are into nerd culture, autism is also a factor there.
Hormones are running through nerd and autist communities like crack did in the ghettos.

Same with anime communities.
I’m not saying don’t let kids watch anime because anime in itself isn’t bad, but something happened in the past 20 years where guys instead of having yellow fever become the yellow fever in way of trying to be anime girls, and the yaoi girls instead of carrying yaoi paddles at worst are becoming the yaoi.

 

[ur_mom_lmaoooo]

For girls, maybe emphasizing that it's possible to do and enjoy traditionally masculine things while still being feminine would help. Normalizing liking video games, sports, STEM, outdoors stuff, etc. while still liking and wanting kids, being interested in beauty and dating, wanting to get married someday, and so forth. Show them that it's not an either/or thing.

Also, maybe actually demonstrating the depth and complexity of traditionally feminine pursuits would help, since a lot of the time they're just dismissed as shallow or dumb when in reality many of them are actually pretty interesting. This is a silly example, but sometimes I'll look up ASMR videos just to have on in the background, and you'd be shocked at how intricate things like nail care/design/art is, or hair care and styling (think complex braids and updos), or creating and measuring out DIY beauty products from household staples, or mixing and matching the right clothing with the right colors for the right body type. All of this shit is actually pretty complicated and doesn't (necessarily) entail the dumb bimbo stereotype it gets associated with.

And that's not even getting into things like cooking and baking, textile stuff like crocheting/knitting/weaving/embroidery, crafty things like pottery and candle- and soap-making, and the dozens of different art mediums you can get into. All of these things are "traditionally feminine" (well, I guess some art forms are more gender-neutral, but still) while still being extremely valuable uses of time and not at all shallow or dumb, imo.

As for boys, a lot of the trans stuff seems to come from porn plus a poor social life, in which case the solution just seems to be to make sure they have a solid social group and consistent, physical, in-the-real-world hobbies apart from the internet.

 

[When will it begin?]

As for boys, a lot of the trans stuff seems to come from porn plus a poor social life, in which case the solution just seems to be to make sure they have a solid social group and consistent, physical, in-the-real-world hobbies apart from the internet.

For boys try find a way to stay physically active that interests them. Working out, team sports, hiking, swimming, or at the bare minimum wii sports. Active teens tend to do better socially.

You should also talk to older male teens about porn addiction. How eventually people become desensatized and start seeking out more deviant stuff.

 

[CheesyBoy]

The funniest part about the “straight trans girls” is that they’ll lament that men have preferences about genitals and how dare they, but they’ll also say they could never date a pooner because they require dick with 0 self awareness.

Every tranny chaser has the same genital preference: penis. The entire appeal of fucking a tranny is the fantasy of "chick with a dick." Getting bottom surgery takes away any appeal they may have had to potential partners, because why they hell would anyone want to fuck a rotting hole that is meant to resemble a vagina, when real vaginas are superior in every way?

 

[Snack Cracker]

Unfortunately research into e. g. conversion therapy was criminalized (and the existing body of literature swept under the rug in a joke of a pseudoscientific literature review), but I'm not convinced loosening gender roles "helps". It seems very likely that it leads to a higher chance of turning gay as well. Every gay person I've known has come from a very liberal household, and the number of gays and trans doesn't seem to decrease as gender roles in society were less enforced (also looking at different current societies).

There’s one of the “conversion” gays that I frequently come into contact with at school events and church, and God it’s so off putting.

He married a woman and has multiple children, but a blind and deaf person could tell this man is gay as fuck.
He dresses like a normal suburban dad, but he walks gay, he talks gay, he even sits with the moms instead of the dads at social events.

The first time I met him I was so weirded out like “who brought their gay friend to a conservative religious kid event” but he wasn’t a friend, he’s the dad of one of the kids.
He’s so gay that he set off the radar of a friend that hasn’t spent really any time around gay men.

It’s repulsive and humiliating to think of this guy being a husband, idk how his wife does it.
How can a woman feel sexual attraction to a man like that?
I worry intensely for her that she’s going to end up with aids because there’s no way this guy isn’t searching out dick on the DL.
Or at the very least he’s watching gay porn and crying about it afterwards.

 

[LazyLizard]

Reading through the thread, and it's honestly horrifying how many decent, normal, and frequently conservative parents who poured their heart and soul into their kids end up with deranged, self-destructive, dead-end offspring who declare themselves transgender and in the process destroy everything they and their parents ever worked for.

Do you think there's any way to guarantee a kid won't fall for the trans cult, or is it really just a crapshoot who buys into it and who doesn't upon contact with the internet (and the general social/political/educational world outside of the household)?

limit their online activity and media exposure growing up and convince them to go to trade school instead of college.

 

[Sean Andalou]

How about those Chinese, am I right?


Reddit -- Archive

Spoiler: Yes a whole long rant about it.

Hello everyone, recently I've seen discussions about transgender rights in China. Some people argue that the government is relatively accepting while the general public is not. Others argue the opposite, that ordinary people are becoming more accepting but government policies have not caught up.

As a transgender woman from China who was granted refugee status in Canada because of risks of persecution related to my gender identity, I wanted to share some context that I don't think is widely known outside the Chinese-speaking world.

From my perspective, the Chinese government has continued to restrict transgender people's lives in a number of ways, including restricting access to HRT through online sales, allowing or failing to stop conversion programs operating under the name of special education or behavioral correction, and heavily censoring online discussions about transgender issues while shutting down many LGBTQ+ organizations and student groups.

At the same time, one thing that often surprises me is how common anti-trans language is in everyday Chinese.

The most common slur used against transgender women is "renyao". The term became especially associated with Thai pre-op or non-op transgender women and other people assigned male at birth who worked in the sex industry (or more broadly, it is often used in Chinese contexts with the assumption that they are or have been involved in sex work), and it is still used particularly frequently when referring to them.

I've often seen it translated simply as the T-slur, but I don't think that fully conveys its meaning. Literally, the word combines the characters for "ren" (human) and "yao". While "yao", in this context, evokes something inhuman, monstrous, or demonic. A literal rendering would be something like "human monster" or "human demon." Whether or not one thinks that is the best translation, the important point is that it carries a strong sense of dehumanization in Chinese.

This isn't an obscure insult used only by extremists. It is extremely common in everyday conversation and online comments. I've heard it used by people of all ages, from young people to older generations. Different regions also have their own local slurs for transgender women.

Ironically, terms like "otokonoko", which originated in Japanese erotic media, and are themselves often inaccurate or offensive when applied to transgender women, are actually considered relatively mild compared to "renyao" in many online discussions. The same is true for terms such as "femboy" or "transsexual." Compared to slurs like "yinyangren" (a slur implying someone is neither properly male nor female), "er yizi" (a regional slur for effeminate men, gay men, and transgender women), or "pijing" ("ass spirit," a vulgar slur for gay men), these terms are often considered relatively mild.

So, I wanted to provide this cultural and linguistic context that I rarely see discussed in English-language conversations.

For those of you in Western trans communities, how do you currently view the state of transgender rights in China? Has your impression changed over the years, and were you aware of the prevalence and connotations of the word "renyao" before reading this?

Key quotes:

Hello everyone, recently I've seen discussions about transgender rights in China. Some people argue that the government is relatively accepting while the general public is not. Others argue the opposite, that ordinary people are becoming more accepting but government policies have not caught up.

As a transgender woman from China who was granted refugee status in Canada because of risks of persecution related to my gender identity, I wanted to share some context that I don't think is widely known outside the Chinese-speaking world.

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The most common slur used against transgender women is "renyao". The term became especially associated with Thai pre-op or non-op transgender women and other people assigned male at birth who worked in the sex industry (or more broadly, it is often used in Chinese contexts with the assumption that they are or have been involved in sex work), and it is still used particularly frequently when referring to them.

I've often seen it translated simply as the T-slur, but I don't think that fully conveys its meaning. Literally, the word combines the characters for "ren" (human) and "yao". While "yao", in this context, evokes something inhuman, monstrous, or demonic. A literal rendering would be something like "human monster" or "human demon." Whether or not one thinks that is the best translation, the important point is that it carries a strong sense of dehumanization in Chinese.

This isn't an obscure insult used only by extremists.
It is extremely common in everyday conversation and online comments.
I've heard it used by people of all ages, from young people to older generations. Different regions also have their own local slurs for transgender women.

 

[mnt_ms]

As a transgender woman from China who was granted refugee status in Canada because of risks of persecution related to my gender identity, I wanted to share some context that I don't think is widely known outside the Chinese-speaking world.

I bet this nigga was one of those protesters in Hong Kong or whatever, and there was no risk of persecution.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

All of this shit is actually pretty complicated and doesn't (necessarily) entail the dumb bimbo stereotype it gets associated with.

Legally Blonde is a great watch to convey this.

 

[Snack Cracker]

"pijing" ("ass spirit," a vulgar slur for gay men)

This is the funniest shit I’ve read on the internet today, ASS SPIRIT

 

[Sean Andalou]

Follow up.
I had to fiddle a bit (I do not speak Chinese) but Google Translate has it as a translation of "ladyboy".

https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=zh-CN&text=ladyboy&op=translate

You can click to hear a generic Chinese voice say it, so you can practice your pronunciation.

Different regions also have their own local slurs for transgender women.

I want a chart.

 

[pink cigarettes]

Yes lol I’ll never forget the “straight trans girls” thread I saw where they were all indignant about the idea of dating pooners. “Just because I’m a trans woman doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to have standards.”

In recent years I've noticed WAY more hedging in troon discourse when it comes to "genital preference" (ugh). A lot more "not everyone has to be attracted to dicks, of course....." and "of course everyone is allowed to have preferences....."

My theory is not that troons have become less rapey and entitled (lol no). I think what happened is that out of desperation more of them began hooking up with each other and they were like "lol holy shit turns out this really is awful"

 

[FinnSven]

There’s one of the “conversion” gays that I frequently come into contact with at school events and church, and God it’s so off putting.

He married a woman and has multiple children, but a blind and deaf person could tell this man is gay as fuck.
He dresses like a normal suburban dad, but he walks gay, he talks gay, he even sits with the moms instead of the dads at social events.

The first time I met him I was so weirded out like “who brought their gay friend to a conservative religious kid event” but he wasn’t a friend, he’s the dad of one of the kids.
He’s so gay that he set off the radar of a friend that hasn’t spent really any time around gay men.

It’s repulsive and humiliating to think of this guy being a husband, idk how his wife does it.
How can a woman feel sexual attraction to a man like that?
I worry intensely for her that she’s going to end up with aids because there’s no way this guy isn’t searching out dick on the DL.
Or at the very least he’s watching gay porn and crying about it afterwards.

That used to be way more common in the Good Old Days.

A lot of beard wives who were in denial basically liked to boast because their husband was always an accomplished lady’s hairdresser.

So naturally they always had impressive hair styles.

 

[Billy Hargrove]

In recent years I've noticed WAY more hedging in troon discourse when it comes to "genital preference" (ugh). A lot more "not everyone has to be attracted to dicks, of course....." and "of course everyone is allowed to have preferences....."

My theory is not that troons have become less rapey and entitled (lol no). I think what happened is that out of desperation more of them began hooking up with each other and they were like "lol holy shit turns out this really is awful"

That is amusing but I’ve noticed the opposite. “Genital preference” is the only troon approved excuse for not having sex with one so of course that is what normies say on places like Reddit. Troons caught on and so now they’re increasingly saying “genital preference” is transphobia.

It’s always funny to me the way they think they can rules lawyer people into fucking them.

 

[FinnSven]

In recent years I've noticed WAY more hedging in troon discourse when it comes to "genital preference" (ugh). A lot more "not everyone has to be attracted to dicks, of course....." and "of course everyone is allowed to have preferences....."

My theory is not that troons have become less rapey and entitled (lol no). I think what happened is that out of desperation more of them began hooking up with each other and they were like "lol holy shit turns out this really is awful"

It wasn’t uncommon for ”lesbian” troons to complain when human women and human lesbians set them up with other ”lesbian” troons.

Maybe this was occasionally done out of cattiness, but sometimes it was genuinely done out of the human women thinking that they would bond through shared experiences.

 

[Sean Andalou]

It’s always funny to me the way they think they can rules lawyer people into fucking them.

A definite correlation with autism, in particular the self-diagnosed variety.
No argument, however cogent, can overcome natural disgust.

 

[Kill Mitts]

tranny gets punched in their shit by best friend's bf
bf comes back and the tranny sleeps on the couch
can't believe these freaks are real

 

[Joshi_zarna]

FMS
Look at this 4ft 10 pooner. Not reslly seeing a difference.

 

[Vetinari]

Do you think there's any way to guarantee a kid won't fall for the trans cult, or is it really just a crapshoot who buys into it and who doesn't upon contact with the internet (and the general social/political/educational world outside of the household)?

Without PL, I have achieved healthy young adults.

No social media, including the parents.
No mobile phones/tablets until they're teenagers.
Strict controls from the router, and the expectation of "if you have it, expect me to monitor what you're doing on it."
No PCs. We had one in the living room for homework and that was it.
Sports, clubs, making them go outside to play.
Don't make it a thing if one of your children wants to do something that isn't within their sex boundaries. I can't say much without PL but if your child wants to play with something you might think isn't "correct" for their sex, don't make it a thing. Children lose interest quickly.
Don't play into fads. Don't buy them the latest thing children are going mad for. Again, children lose interest.
Physical activities! I repeat myself because it's important; my lot did swimming, football, bike riding, rollerskating, all that good stuff.

And vet their friends. If they wanted to go to someone's house, that friend came to my home first. I'd meet their parents at collection time. And if I got that gut instinct, they didn't go over. The friend came to our home instead where I could keep an eye on activities.

And the most important one? Both parents, as one unit, actively engaged with their upbringing.

 

[Pluciferous]

How about those Chinese, am I right?

I think it’s too soon to talk about new merch, but I’d love a baseball cap with the simple Chinese inscription “go away, human monster”