The ultimate manga thread

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Betonhaus

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There does not seem to be a dedicated thread. Which is a shame, as it would be nice to have a place to weed out the good shit from the multitudes of Villainesses who decide to mend their ways, Japanese dudes who wake up one day and find out they have become a slime or a goblin or a sword or vending machine, or guys that get kicked out of the hero party only to realize they were somehow super powerful and was carrying the party the entire time.
 
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I'm enjoying Negima right now. A fun harem ith a teacher that's secretly a magi that knows what it's doing without pushing it overboard. Written by the same guy that wrote love Hina.
 
I hate weebs and am not one myself, but I actually bought the physical master edition of the Blame! series because the art is cool. There is barely any dialogue so its based.
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Its all brutalist sci-fi with a grungy HR Giger esque aesthetic overtop, its a lot like Giger's Shaft series of works.
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(this is one of Giger's Shaft pieces, not Blame!)

Other than that all weebshit sucks lol
 
I mean Dr. Stone was a good read.

The Greatest Estate Developer is outright hilarious with very expressive main characters
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I like Junji Ito's stuff for creepy body horror. He did a little autobiographical slice of life manga about when he and his missus got a couple of cats, and drew it all in the same creepy style. It's good fun.
 
My favorite standby is Osamu Tezuka. In the 60s he mostly did children's stuff (most known for Astro Boy and Kimba the White Lion) but by the 70s he was starting to branch out and make stuff that would genuinely stand alongside classic authors. His best works are the Phoenix manga, Message to Adolf, Ayako, and if you need a series... Blackjack.

Phoenix = each book is kind of a stand-alone story... kinda sorta. The first volume is about the beginning of Japan, but then the second goes into the far future--the end of all life on Earth. The series keeps going back and forth like this. The plan was that the final volume would be about the present day.... but Osamu Tezuka caught a bad case of death and still has not recovered.

Black Jack = a series about... most people would say "the adventures of a master black-market surgeon" but in a lot of cases he's more incidentally present. While some spin-offs like the 1990s anime OVA like to focus more on the "master surgeon" aspect, Tezuka usually didn't play up the power fantasy as much and instead preferred to make some sort of moral or philosophical point.

Message to Adolf = Basically World War II Historical Fiction about two boys who used to be friends but found themselves on opposite ends of the War, and how it affected their lives. There's a lot going on, and its probably one of the only fictional portrayals of Hitler that portrays him as a human being and not a cartoon supervillain.

Ayako = I'm really not sure how to describe this one up without just writing a wikipedia summary.

And that's just among the ones I've read. Really, this guy has written so much and also done short story collections, that if you just look you'll probably find something you'll enjoy. Two things though: One, his work is often bittersweet if not outright a downer, and two, despite that his art style is paradoxically cartoony. His Astro Boy stuff isn't bad and can be fun if you want something that is more like a "normal" manga.

(I do not recommend Tezuka anime at all, BTW--they tend to have none of the nuance or depth that make the manga good, and in a lot of cases are radically different from the source anyway. One I did like was Marine Express, but that one is specifically made for Tez-heads who recognize all his recurring characters--he had a sort of "Animated Actors" thing going on with a lot of his characters).

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Outside of that...

my favorite manga of all time is Ranma 1/2 by Rumiko Takahashi. People who say they hate weeb shit are wrong because Ranma 1/2 exists (and Tezuka, but Tez's stuff has an odd way of feeling "Western" even though its Japanese, so its an extreme outlier).

Ranma is one of those that, when described, sounds complicated... but when you actually read it, isn't hard to follow at all. That's because it has a lot of elements that, on their own, sound like they suggest one genre, but the actual story goes somewhere else. The main character is a martial artist but for the most part, stories don't tend to revolve around him proving he can beat opponents. He's got tons of girls who want to marry him and this does become a recurring plot point, even though its obvious who he's gonna end up with very early on. Oh, and a lot of people are cursed to transform if they get wet (based on how hot or cold the water is), so....

.... The story treads the line between soap opera, sitcom, wacky shenanigans and serious drama... with a lot of fantasy elements. And sometimes an almost western sense of "Huh, I never thought about it like that" humor.

.... Since I mentioned one manga by Rumiko Takahashi I might as well mention her most famous one: Inu-Yasha. To be fair... its not a terrible read, but when it first came out (yes I am that old) I found it disappointing, because Takahashi was always wild and creative but here it felt like she was recycling old story ideas (there's a short story called Fire Tripper which is basically proto-Inuyasha).... and then Inuyasha became a standard shonen manga in a lot of ways, when all her previous work had avoided that.

As far as Shonen manga goes though, Inuyasha is a nice read, my private biases aside.

.... Another favorite from my gal, she also did a short manga series called the Mermaid Saga. Imagine Highlander but more focused on human drama and less on battles. One of the stories got an actually really good OVA made of it in the early 1990s.

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Since this ran a little long, my final recommendation of the day is Detective Conan (called Case Closed here in America). This one is easy to explain: A little kid (who is actually not a little kid--long story) solves murders. I go through phases of loving stuff like Sherlock Holmes, Hercule Poirot etc. Murder Mysteries are just an evergreen genre for me. So of course "that, but manga" would appeal to me.

It's not perfect--a lot of the mysteries tend to be on the simple side--there's always only three suspects and after awhile you can tell who the culprit is gonna be--and some people dislike that the recurring "Black Organization" plot has not come to a conclusion yet.

That said.... I have watched the anime up to 600 episodes in. Usually I avoid anime if they're that long, but Conan has the double-whammy of being fun, being in a genre I like, but also being the kind of show where you can just pop an episode in when you're feeling bored. Something like One Piece I feel like I would take too much of a break and then be unable to tell what's going on because I forgot stuff, but with Conan that is never an issue.

Wow.... I guess the One Truth that Prevailed here is that I'm a massive sperg.
 
Zipang is decent, it's basically The Final Countdown but Japanese. A Japanese defence force battleship on joint manoeuvres with the US Navy gets thrown back in time and ends up at the Battle of Midway. The crew all argue over what they should do: whether to do nothing and not fuck up the time stream, whether they should help the Allies because they're friends with the Americans now (the anime English dub has them all with various heavy American accents while the Japanese characters, it's a bit off-putting at first but then when they're in the past, the Japanese characters they meet sound Japanese and are more insular); whether they should help the Axis because that's their parents and grandparents fighting for them; whether they should try to reduce the death toll on both sides or stop civilian deaths etc.
I have family who suffered Jap war crimes in WW2 so I didn't expect to like it, but it's actually surprisingly even-handed. It isn't all "rurgh rurgh grorious Nippon" at all, and actually examines how naive the modern Japanese defence force are, since there's only a couple of history buffs on board who actually know about the atrocities their country did in the war and nobody's parents wanted to talk about the war, and they're shocked to see the attitudes of the time. I would've liked them to go harder on some of the topics - there's a bit where a couple of the crew are eyeing up "native girls" in Malaysia iirc and another one's like "urgh dude, they're like 12" and that's about all we get about comfort women. But there's a lot more acknowledgement of the Japanese crimes than I expected, and it's about as good as you're going to get from Japanese media. It feels more honest than, say, German performative self-flagellation over the Holocaust, and it isn't just going on about the nukes while breezily ignoring all the things Japan did that earned them. And it's a cool sci-fi story and submarine drama.
 

The art in this one is fairly minimalistic, but it more than makes up for it with a masterful story full of red herrings and plot twists that slowly unfold to reveal something mindblowing. It's my favourite manga of all time, and part of that is because it reminds me of the weird, imaginative sci-fi children's and young adult novels I read when I was younger.


This is a fairly basic fighting manga, and it's mainly action with little underlying story and character development, but it's still a lot of fun. It has lots of cool gadgets. Plus, I really like the old manga art style and old-fashioned character designs.


Leiji Masumoto is my favourite mangaka, and this is the peak of his works. It's full of melancholy, and it's a reflection on the human condition while it shows us a unique, rich universe full of things you've probably never even imagined. I also really like the Queen Emeraldas manga (big ups for having a good female character that's not sexualized or bland) and the Captain Harlock manga (though it doesn't tell the complete story of Harlock; you have to watch the anime for that). The Queen Millennia manga is also fully translated, and I'd love to read that soon.


The mecha in this one are SO COOL!!! The Stilva is one of my favourite mecha designs. The art in general is really detailed and a pleasure to look at.


This manga presents the apocalypse as peaceful rather than a time of doom and gloom. A sense of mystery hangs over the story, but it's more captivating and immersive than unsettling.
 
there was this shoujo/josei historical manga about an insane woman taking down everyone who did shit to her and her brother. panels in manga include dark magic stuff and insane expressions. someone said its a psychological thriller. i forgot the name now.
 
It's been awhile since I read any manga because I've been reading a lot of western stuff but I remember liking Blade of the Immortal a lot. It's the one about the immortal samurai who is cursed and needs to kill 1,,000 evil people to finally die. He spends most of the manga helping someone avenge their fathers death it's pretty good.
I haven't read all of them but from the ones I have read I really like Junji Ito's stuff. He does a really good job making horror stuff even his weird stories like Gyo still has it's moments even if the overall story is a little lacking.
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This manga presents the apocalypse as peaceful rather than a time of doom and gloom. A sense of mystery hangs over the story, but it's more captivating and immersive than unsettling.
I second this one. YKK is great It's interesting how they created a world that kind of sucks for everyone and made a slice of life story take place in it without being too depressing and sad. It's kind of funny in a way too, even in such a bad world the people who live in it still have a lot of the same issues that we do.
 
I just finished a lovely slice of life manga called Doomsday with My Dog. It's formatted more like a newspaper comic strip. Basically, an unspecified catastrophe wiped all humans from the earth except for one girl. She, just called Master, happily roams the earth with her shiba inu called Haru-san who adores her. Some other dogs follow them around too! All the animals can talk. It's funny, philosophical, heartwarming, and most of all...a story about the wholesome relationship between dogs and people.
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I also completed my Beastars manga collection (the actual volumes irl) recently. It's way better than the anime hehe
 
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