The Super Best Friends Super Best Griefing Thread - Matt's a cuck, Liam is a bitch, Pat's a loony and Woolie's Way is now trademarked

[Living Failure]

I think it really is Woolie just liking a very small handful of things & doesn't care to feign interest in anything else. I don't understand, he used to do it in the old days & it gave us legit funny moments like this.

Woolie doesn't want to make an effort, doesn't want to put work into his work, doesn't want to do anything that other people are already doing (including extremely basic shit like using a goddamn mouse for a PC shooter), doesn't want to play up his persona (presumably lingering TBFP trauma from being the local cryptid), doesn't want to interact with his audience despite being an entertainer, and doesn't want to see things he doesn't already like, or like new things he didn't know or like before. Woolie basically only likes doing things he likes in the shittiest possible Woolie Way just to be different, while regarding his audience as no more than an abstract view count that generates income.

I wonder how he managed to impregnate his wife. Clearly the regular way would be too boring for Woolie. A joke Plague made years ago about how Sasuke impregnated Sakura in their loveless marriage comes to mind, where Sasuke was just out in the field, came onto a piece of paper, and gave it to a crow to deliver to Sakura.

 

[Shartavius]

The comedy in all of this is that what Woolie has to squander is something he's incapable of earning in the first place: Matt and Pat gifted him this career after the formula of their fifteen minute videos made them enough money to hire Matt's work friends to joke around and play video games with for additional content. Despite the branding, his unwillingness to do anything correctly demonstrates that what Woolie has actually done over the course of these intervening years is remain in the wreckage of the Two Best Friends Play gravy train; carrying on as though it will never dry up, and twirling a "Woolie Versus" sign around as though that's the product. Woolie is one bad day away from insisting to his audience that "If you want entertainment, go look at another channel."

The only thing Woolie's bumbling, indignant behavior is good for is reminding everyone that all he's done is unsuccessfully ride the coattails of a Youtube channel that died in its tracks nearly eight years ago, wherein his only value was being the butt of the others' jokes. What isn't clear is whether Woolie expects to reach a broader audience by showing them what an incompetent pissbaby he is, or if he just expects the world to come around to his personal brand of "pretending to think really hard about inconsequential video game decisions whenever he knows others might be watching."

 

[Hemorrhoy Rogers]

The comedy in all of this is that what Woolie has to squander is something he's incapable of earning in the first place: Matt and Pat gifted him this career after the formula of their fifteen minute videos made them enough money to hire Matt's work friends to joke around and play video games with for additional content. Despite the branding, his unwillingness to do anything correctly demonstrates that what Woolie has actually done over the course of these intervening years is remain in the wreckage of the Two Best Friends Play gravy train; carrying on as though it will never dry up, and twirling a "Woolie Versus" sign around as though that's the product. Woolie is one bad day away from insisting to his audience that "If you want entertainment, go look at another channel."

The only thing Woolie's bumbling, indignant behavior is good for is reminding everyone that all he's done is unsuccessfully ride the coattails of a Youtube channel that died in its tracks nearly eight years ago, wherein his only value was being the butt of the others' jokes. What isn't clear is whether Woolie expects to reach a broader audience by showing them what an incompetent pissbaby he is, or if he just expects the world to come around to his personal brand of "pretending to think really hard about inconsequential video game decisions whenever he knows others might be watching."

I remember over a decade ago Matt and Pat joking how woolie would print out a picture of the fans to shit on every day. It's not surprising he's so lazy when you remember matt's wife pointing out that woolie mostly just goofed off with liam at his testing job instead of actually getting work done.

 

[Gondolindrim]

I remember over a decade ago Matt and Pat joking how woolie would print out a picture of the fans to shit on every day. It's not surprising he's so lazy when you remember matt's wife pointing out that woolie mostly just goofed off with liam at his testing job instead of actually getting work done.

Super Best Friends may have unironically saved Woolie's life because what the fuck was his plan at the time? He can't get an office job because he refuses to stop dressing like a middle school anime geek, the one job we know he had was both soul crushing and he apparently barely did it, and through Matt and Pat he has a wife, a kid, and a uh, loyal fan base that gives him free money.

@Flopper My. God. You want to talk about parasocial, I don't think it gets any better than that. This guy's talking about Woolie like he's a vulnerable child in a real crowd and not a 35+ year old man playing an MMO. This is the equivalence of someone saying your character standing too close to theirs counts as a sexual assault.

 

[McMitch]

wherein his only value was being the butt of the others' jokes.

What’s even funnier is that the channel had a second bit player whose value was being the butt of a joke: James Small; and when James Small actually showed up, he had more charm and character in like two videos than Woolie had in four years of being on the channel.

 

[Shartavius]

Woolie published a timely "Best of" edit of his Arkham City LP from five months ago. Matt's latest fair-use-wikislop upload provided for reference:



If Matt's numbers are anything to go by, Woolie should have another fifty thousand views in just six hours...right?

 

[Ex Blank Ex]

"What's wrong with the Woolie Way™?"
The Woolie way is to make MMO into WO, Woolie only. He seems to feel as important stream person, so random people around are just noise or annoyance snipers.

Most audiences thinks of Woolie as the butt-monkey character: pie-stealer, liver of the Woolie hole, sports murderer, animal-hater. That is how best friends joked with him. If he were smart and not egoistical, he'd lean into it and act as wrestler villain. If he can't be the cool-smart one, he is shutting down and become fussy.

 

[Gondolindrim]

"What's wrong with the Woolie Way™?"
The Woolie way is to make MMO into WO, Woolie only. He seems to feel as important stream person, so random people around are just noise or annoyance snipers.

Most audiences thinks of Woolie as the butt-monkey character: pie-stealer, liver of the Woolie hole, sports murderer, animal-hater. That is how best friends joked with him. If he were smart and not egoistical, he'd lean into it and act as wrestler villain. If he can't be the cool-smart one, he is shutting down and become fussy.

The most succinct way to put it is that Woolie is a control freak. He feels deeply uncomfortable when there are factors in his videos that he cannot control or remove, such as other players. His baby rage towards people who just want to have fun with him is entirely because he now feels inadequate as they're "interfering in his play", and taking the attention away from him.

 

[Tetsuya Nomura]

Woolie published a timely "Best of" edit of his Arkham City LP from five months ago.

I mocked Vinny Vinesauce for paying editors to make everything for him, but I guess it's preferable to waiting five fucking months lmao. Don't worry, Woolz, this'll be the one to get a million views and change the trajectory of the channel. I've just got a feeling! Keep at it! The Wanker Way!
I mean the Woolie Way!

 

[Shartavius]

I imagine we all have fun variations on the same answer to this question; so I'll ask it:

Woolie has been doing this "job" since 2011, and has been doing it "full-time" since quitting his QA job in 2014. How is he so fucking bad at it, and how does he manage to get worse at it every year, for ten, consecutive years (He registered the WoolieVersus Youtube and Twitch channels in 2016)?

 

[Tetsuya Nomura]

I imagine we all have fun variations on the same answer to this question; so I'll ask it:

Woolie has been doing this "job" since 2011, and has been doing it "full-time" since quitting his QA job in 2014. How is he so fucking bad at it, and how does he manage to get worse at it every year, for ten, consecutive years (He registered the WoolieVersus Youtube and Twitch channels in 2016)?

Mine is boring, but: when you're only an eceleb due to knowing the right people and didn't get even a single one of your fans due to your own talent or hard work (a lack thereof in his case), you can become very accustomed to thinking the sun shines out of your ass, and then you start thinking you're better than you are and become a talentless, lazy shit who puts in minimal effort.

Despite the Youtube channel views descending, he retains a very, very loyal core audience of SBFP hanger-ons, along with fans of his inner circle / clique of popular Youtube friends who use him as a parasocial friend replacement.

Maybe this makes it easier to ignore the sinking Youtube channel? I dunno. I'm just surprised the man can eat and breathe at the same time

 

[Crab Zone]

The most succinct way to put it is that Woolie is a control freak. He feels deeply uncomfortable when there are factors in his videos that he cannot control or remove, such as other players. His baby rage towards people who just want to have fun with him is entirely because he now feels inadequate as they're "interfering in his play", and taking the attention away from him.

Its hard to diagnose someone you only interact with through a screen like this and don't directly get to ask questions in an isolated non performative setting. That being said i don't think Woolie is performing most of the time this is just how he is. But i have kinda come to believe he may have oppositional defiant disorder caused by what he feels was his Mothers controlling nature as a kid/teen. ODD typically is a thing you see in kid or teenager but if it doesn't resolve itself it can carry into adulthood or return in adulthood due to major stress.

Essentially Woolie felt his Mother made him always do things her way so a core part of his personality became him doing everything his way in defiance of what other people want. Woolie dresses how he wants, has his hair how he wants, plays the games he wants and watches the shows he wants. He has always had these traits. However after the breakup you can really start to see it manifesting more. We see the Woolie Way appearing more often tot he point Pats pointing it out. He is constantly explaining himself in a way that deflects blame, he can be quick to anger at the fans or chat when something comes up that he doesn't like (though hes quick to try and hide it or play it off).

 

[Gas Snake]

Bruh how bad is the Pragmata LP? Is literally anyone watching it?

The finale didn't even crack 3K.

These are worse than his 2XKO numbers, which by way, isnt that game fucking dead or something? I thought the studio was gutted. Seems like a great game to base half your content on.

 

[Living Failure]

Woolie has been doing this "job" since 2011, and has been doing it "full-time" since quitting his QA job in 2014. How is he so fucking bad at it, and how does he manage to get worse at it every year, for ten, consecutive years (He registered the WoolieVersus Youtube and Twitch channels in 2016)?

I actually don't think he's getting worse at it per se. Woolie has many flaws, being an obligate contrarian, really fucking stupid and ravaged by the Dunning-Kruger beast, extremely autistic, etc. But I think his greatest flaw of all is his utter inability to change, improve, or meaningfully advance in any tangible, lasting way. People have called it a learning disability, and if it is, it must be an absolute doozy. I could go on a diatribe about his fashion sense that's stuck in the mid-2000's, or his tastes that have stopped developing somewhere around 2014-15, but it really all comes back to "drop your shield". He never did, and nothing illustrates his flaw more than that. Nothing sticks. Woolie achieved a level of comfortable barely-adequacy, and then just stopped progressing. So it's not that he's gotten worse as much as he was just barely mediocre, and as the world around him moved on and changed, he's looking worse and worse by comparison. He's just stagnant, set in his dumbass ways, resistant to change, improvement, good advice.

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

He truly is Da Black DSP.

 

[Tanner Glass]

Woolie has been doing this "job" since 2011, and has been doing it "full-time" since quitting his QA job in 2014. How is he so fucking bad at it, and how does he manage to get worse at it every year, for ten, consecutive years (He registered the WoolieVersus Youtube and Twitch channels in 2016)?

I think it's a fairly easy answer, honestly.

Part of being successful in Social Media (TM) is having an array of skills and traits. I could write pages and pages on it, but, to keep it short you need three core things

- You need to bring something to the table insofar as being entertaining (either charismatic, or hatewatchable, etc)
- You need to be consistent with content/timing
- You need to be flexible and adaptable as the games/audience/mood will often change. This also includes networking and brand deals for larger creators.

In Woolie's case (and a lot of cases honestly) he got an audience built up by part of a group that was hitting all three constantly for a very long time. Matt turned SBFP into a content machine that you could almost set your watch to.

After the SBFP breakup, Woolie didn't feel the need to keep to the three core rules because he never kept to the three core rules - someone else always did that for him. What you're seeing now isn't him getting worse, it's just him being who he is without someone propping him up and the natural erosion that occurs. He truly thinks he can just "stay the course" and it'll all work out without realizing that he doesn't understand why it worked the first time.

It's shocking that even Pat seems to realize this and even though I don't like his content generally, is networking, is felxbile, and is consistent in a good way. To do a worse job then Pat with Pat helping you out when Pat's prior claim to fame was not even getting out of PJs on stream is the lowest of the low.

 

[Gas Snake]

It's shocking that even Pat seems to realize this and even though I don't like his content generally, is networking, is felxbile, and is consistent in a good way. To do a worse job then Pat with Pat helping you out when Pat's prior claim to fame was not even getting out of PJs on stream is the lowest of the low.

You do have to give Pat credit, he did a lot of work to prepare for this abortion ff14 stream. Can't believe he actually admitted to replaying the first 15 levels of every class so he could recommend the best one to woolie.

 

[MooseGump]

Bruh how bad is the Pragmata LP? Is literally anyone watching it?
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The finale didn't even crack 3K.

These are worse than his 2XKO numbers, which by way, isnt that game fucking dead or something? I thought the studio was gutted. Seems like a great game to base half your content on.

No one is watching it and probably assumed this video was just like any other, not the fuckin finale lmao

 

[stupid frog]

He didn't even make the thumbnail special, or mark finale??

 

[Tetsuya Nomura]

Bruh how bad is the Pragmata LP? Is literally anyone watching it?
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The finale didn't even crack 3K.

Holy shit, I remember who Woolie reminds me of, other than the Blarch2 guy.
Dansg08. AKA Berk, a British-Turkish Lets Player. He's the Final Fantasy X guy to most who know him.

The numbers are similar, they have really active communities, but Berk didn't have the help like Woolie did, and has met many of his fans and mods (he has a 24/7 livestream of his LPs) and while he doesn't read comments anymore, he's also very set in his ways, doing Let's Plays, barely editing, taking months to do games, by which time the views go from thousands to hundreds as the hype dies.

I like Berk. He seems a good guy, and he at least mixes it up with opinion pieces and challenge runs, and now tier lists. But maybe this "dude set in his ways" things is more common than I thought. Difference is, Berk seems very happy, and Woolie seems miserable almost all the time.