The Super Best Friends Super Best Griefing Thread - Matt's a cuck, Liam is a bitch, Pat's a loony and Woolie's Way is now trademarked

It's frankly fucking baffling that this is even an issue for Woolie. One thing TBFP had nailed the fuck down was branding. You scroll through their playlists, and you'll see popping thumbnails of edited or bespoke art featuring their likenesses in some way, the channel name, or both, with fairly few exceptions. And here we are, almost a decade later, and what the fuck even is Woolie's branding? What's his channel about? How does he not manage to have at the very least a half-decent thumbnail for his videos? He had so much opportunity to learn this shit during TBFP days.

But why ask? Obviously because it would be a good idea, a tested and proven idea, something that's generally agreed upon to work, so naturally Woolie will do absolutely fucking anything else.
Woolie clearly does not have anyone in his circle to tell him how to make good thumbnails. Even AI generated shit would be better than screenshots of nothing happening.
 
Woolie clearly does not have anyone in his circle to tell him how to make good thumbnails. Even AI generated shit would be better than screenshots of nothing happening.
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For me, Woolie Versus demonstrates just how little Woolie cared to learn from Matt (who himself didn't know what he was doing), how much of the work Matt and Pat did for the old channel he took for granted, and how Woolie was being paid for work Matt and Pat were actually doing. The Friendcast was Woolie's single greatest achievement, yet he never figured out that people were tuning in to listen to Two Best Friends Play in podcast form; and not to listen to Woolie laugh at his own jokes while refusing to laugh at the others'.
 
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Still cant understand why anyone would take an interest in a literally "who" in the FGC, Woolie's only contribution was to make a couple videos years ago about Guilty Gear lore and that's it and also rubs shoulders with Maximilian. None of his stuff is really interesting to watch or even hatewatch, shit. I use to watch Matt stuff because at least he would putt some effort in his videos while he had that podcast fighting game podcast.

Meanwhile Pat is dragging this nigga through XIV as if anything people from the XIV community would watch somebody who clearly doesn't want to engage with the story, which btw that type of content died after covid, nobody wants to see that anymore. While that's the only "selling point" XIV streamers have move into or doing prog with randoms on streams or community stuff like Preach does, while this retard refuse to do anything that would bring any views to his "content" not that even matter since this nigger leech from eyepatch wolf.

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It's funny how this empowered black man, that he does stuff his own way. Needs to white dudes to carrying him on, feed him, and protect him from the world
 
I used 10% of my company account's daily AI usage to ask Fable 5 how much Woolie's channel sucks:

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Now the diagnosis. Judged against what a healthy, growing channel of this size looks like, the data points to five distinct problems.


1. The subscriber base is a legacy asset, not a growing audience. Zero visible subscriber movement across a full two-week window at 208K is the single most damning number here. A typical healthy 200K channel adds somewhere in the range of 0.5–2% of its base per month (1,000–4,000 net subs); this channel's gains are so small they don't even register above Social Blade's rounding threshold. For context, this is Woolie Madden's solo channel following the 2018 breakup of Super Best Friends Play, which had roughly 750K subscribers — so much of this audience was inherited rather than earned through discovery, and the data suggests almost no new-viewer acquisition is happening now.


2. Catastrophically low views-per-video relative to library size. The channel has 170M lifetime views across 7,235 videos — about 23,500 average lifetime views per video, and that average is inflated by older, higher-performing content. The more telling math: ~51K daily views divided across 2–4 new uploads per day plus a 7,200-video back catalog means recent individual uploads are plausibly landing in the 3–10K range. That's a subscriber-to-view conversion of roughly 2–5%, where a healthy channel converts 10–15% of subscribers on a typical upload and far more on breakouts. The audience that's subscribed largely isn't clicking.


3. The upload strategy is volume-maximizing, which actively suppresses algorithmic performance. Two to four videos daily is a livestream-VOD/let's-play-parts cadence, not a YouTube-native one. Serialized "Part 34"-style episodes have inherently low click-through rates for anyone outside the existing fanbase, and each upload cannibalizes impressions from its siblings. YouTube's recommendation system reads the resulting channel-level CTR and average-view-duration signals and deprioritizes the whole channel in browse and suggested feeds. Successful channels in the gaming commentary space typically ship 1–4 heavily packaged videos per week, each designed to stand alone with a searchable title and a thumbnail legible to cold viewers.


4. Revenue efficiency is poor. Social Blade's daily AdSense estimates run roughly $10–$230 per day at the midpoints — call it low four figures to very low five figures per month at the optimistic end, against the labor cost of producing ~85 videos a month. The RPM on long-form gaming VODs is among the lowest on the platform. Channels like this typically survive on Patreon, sponsorships, and podcast revenue rather than YouTube itself, which the ad numbers here strongly imply.


5. The channel's own positioning confirms it isn't optimizing for growth. The channel description literally reads that it's "just one elaborate ongoing shitpost" — there's no niche statement, no value proposition for a new viewer, no SEO-relevant keywords beyond the creator's name. Compare that to successful channels whose about pages function as a pitch to both viewers and the algorithm.


The important caveat before you take all this at face value: by conventional YouTube-growth metrics this channel is underperforming badly, but those metrics may be measuring the wrong thing. This is structurally a Twitch-style VOD archive serving a dedicated existing community — the flat-but-stable ~1.5M monthly views with zero promotion is actually a sign of an unusually loyal core audience, and consistency like that is something many "optimized" channels can't buy.
The honest framing is: as a discovery-driven YouTube business, it's stagnant and inefficient; as a companion archive monetizing a parasocial fanbase built elsewhere, it's doing exactly what it's designed to do. If the goal were growth, the fixes would be obvious from the data — consolidate uploads into fewer standalone packaged videos, build a separate highlights/edited channel identity, and create entry-point content for people who've never heard of Super Best Friends.

I swear to God I did not coach it at all LMFAO
 
Well we all know Woolie doesn't want to grow his channel. He just wants to be moderately successful playing the games he wants to play the way he wants to play them. He wants to style himself as the guy going against the grain and be the cool indie guy. But the sad part is that was the old sbfp channel and woolie isn't even that. I had a small respect for the guys when they would play some niche bullshit game that they were personally interested in instead of whatever flavor of the month game was big for lets players. You would never see the guys play some stuff like goat simulator to try and get views. And it was refreshing at the time but now it just feels like an old man who refuses to even change enough to try and be appealing in that niche.

Like we have all said before Woolie could stream fighting games with local fgc guys and could stream more than like 12 hours a week so he could finish a 40 hour jrpg in a reasonable amount of time. But he won't since he doesn't view himself as streamer but a lets player like he was back in the day.
 
Well we all know Woolie doesn't want to grow his channel. He just wants to be moderately successful playing the games he wants to play the way he wants to play them. He wants to style himself as the guy going against the grain and be the cool indie guy. But the sad part is that was the old sbfp channel and woolie isn't even that. I had a small respect for the guys when they would play some niche bullshit game that they were personally interested in instead of whatever flavor of the month game was big for lets players. You would never see the guys play some stuff like goat simulator to try and get views. And it was refreshing at the time but now it just feels like an old man who refuses to even change enough to try and be appealing in that niche.

Like we have all said before Woolie could stream fighting games with local fgc guys and could stream more than like 12 hours a week so he could finish a 40 hour jrpg in a reasonable amount of time. But he won't since he doesn't view himself as streamer but a lets player like he was back in the day.

Woolie is that failure of an uncle that comes around during holidays and tells you about how cool he was in highschool and shows you some old ass picture, in case of Woolie most of his fame come from this​

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Or "When's MAHVEL" clip and that's pretty much it. As for the niche game/fighting game Matt beat him in that regard since he actually have videos of weird and niche fighting games, sure is low effort but it's there. Woolie might be someone who liked fighting games back then and spent time with people in locals but as it is, i don't think guy could interact with somebody outside his bubble, nigga is too retarded to do anything shit even "interacting" with randoms in a online game make him shit the bed, I took a peek at his stream of DS2 and he's sitting there mumbling like a child whose grounded, while Reggie is doing all the talk, still baffles to me that DSP and LTG are better "content creators" than him.
 
It's frankly fucking baffling that this is even an issue for Woolie. One thing TBFP had nailed the fuck down was branding. You scroll through their playlists, and you'll see popping thumbnails of edited or bespoke art featuring their likenesses in some way, the channel name, or both, with fairly few exceptions. And here we are, almost a decade later, and what the fuck even is Woolie's branding? What's his channel about? How does he not manage to have at the very least a half-decent thumbnail for his videos? He had so much opportunity to learn this shit during TBFP days.

But why ask? Obviously because it would be a good idea, a tested and proven idea, something that's generally agreed upon to work, so naturally Woolie will do absolutely fucking anything else.
I find it always easier to think that when TBFP made a good business decision, it was Matt making the good business decision and Woolie somehow not understanding it despite it being his job for literal decades.
 
still baffles to me that DSP and LTG are better "content creators" than him.

Both of them have better attitudes than Woolie, the fake fighting game fan who blames "the algorithm" for the consequences of an obnoxious personality that fails to be entertaining. The only reason any of us have even heard of Woolie is because his more famous friends ridiculed him where we could see it and how he dresses like a swamp leprechaun.
 
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Noteworthy things about this week's podcast:
  • Woolie is having a bit of an existential crisis of being out of touch with Quabec culture. A famous local band played there, and Woolie had no idea who they were. It was apparently a huge deal, but Woolie didn't know anything about them. Woolie doesn't know how he has gotten so out of touch with the culture he grew up in.
  • Pat is very glad he moved away from that nonsense.
  • Woolie hates driving, so his solution is to buy a cargo bike. He is going to strap his daughter to the front of the bike, to easily transport her from place to place. Woolie got recognized by the person who sold him the bike. Woolie has clarified that his bike has 3 wheels instead of 2, but this seems like a fucking stupid idea.
  • Pat and Woolie think that being fat means they have strong legs for biking.
  • Pat's son has a problem with taking knives from the sink.
  • Woolie bought a steam machine to replace his desktop. He's been having a decent time with it, but it seems more tuned to gaming rather than streaming. He likes Steam OS, but wish he could get a better video card for it.
  • Pat has to replace his DuelSense controller every 6 months or so.
  • Woolie thinks the DuelSense will be the last product he buys from PlayStation.
  • Pat thinks physical disks are a stupid purchase for games. But he naturally doesn't trust Sony to take away your games. He doesn't support the decision, but he feels like most people don't buy physical games at all.
  • Woolie naturally is opposed to this, and doesn't understand why Pat is so willing to hand over that power to a corporation. Pat counters, that things like disk rot makes conservation moot.
  • Woolie is disappointed that the new Avatar Aang movie is not coming to theaters. He is very mad that it was leaked.
  • Woolie's experimental stream that he abandoned was a TMNT VR game. He did it becuase he felt ill playing the tutorial.
That is all that is worth talking about for this week's podcast.

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Woolie is having a bit of an existential crisis of being out of touch with Quabec culture. [...] Woolie doesn't know how he has gotten so out of touch with the culture he grew up in.
"Man who lives his life defined by spiteful contrarianism and without any real interests or passions is surprised at being out of touch with things many people are passionate about."

  • Pat thinks physical disks are a stupid purchase for games. But he naturally doesn't trust Sony to take away your games. He doesn't support the decision, but he feels like most people don't buy physical games at all.
  • Woolie naturally is opposed to this, and doesn't understand why Pat is so willing to hand over that power to a corporation. Pat counters, that things like disk rot makes conservation moot.
So close to correct while still being wrong. Yeah, people don't buy physical games anymore out of convenience, but that's still bad. Valve has famously promised that they'll provide ways to download and store all their games locally should their platform ever shut down, but even assuming they honor that promise, it'll still render a ton of games unplayable due to being so closely interwoven with some kind of online infrastructure, both required and entirely superfluous. A general enshittification of the gaming industry has made physical games less playable as well on account of being barely functional without whatever gigantic day/week one patch the dev shoves out the door to actually provide a viable product. Which is also bad. The whole argument is rooted in bad anti-consumer practices, which is the entire reason SKG exists, but they're too cowardly to bite the corporate boot that feeds them.

The disk rot argument is fucking retarded, of course. There are so many storage mediums that last for ages, and if you take care of them by replacing failing components incrementally, they'll last essentially forever. Completely missing the point just to confidently make a wrong and terrible argument, classic Pat.
 
The disk rot argument is fucking retarded, of course. There are so many storage mediums that last for ages, and if you take care of them by replacing failing components incrementally, they'll last essentially forever. Completely missing the point just to confidently make a wrong and terrible argument, classic Pat.
The problem is DRM, it doesn't matter if the data is on a disc or on a stone tablet if the company can just hit the 'off' switch on your software. The physical media angle has always been a pacifier for retards thinking their plastic coasters are valuable.
 
Woolie bought a steam machine to replace his desktop. He's been having a decent time with it, but it seems more tuned to gaming rather than streaming. He likes Steam OS, but wish he could get a better video card for it.

I love that Woolie finds new and unique ways to be retarded.

Pat and Matt are both grumpy bastards but they know this and at least try to balance business decisions versus their stubborn ways.

Meanwhile, Woolie just plain does retarded shit. Dumbass the steam machine is DESIGNED for [budget] PC gaming. It's a steam branded small form pre-built for the console retards to get into PC gaming easily.

YOU ARE A CONTENT PRODUCER THIS IS YOUR JOB WHY DID YOU NOT BUY A REAL PC DESIGNED FOR YOUR BUSINESS PURPOSES. I know it's because he is retarded, but like.... what a retard.
 
I love that Woolie finds new and unique ways to be retarded.

Pat and Matt are both grumpy bastards but they know this and at least try to balance business decisions versus their stubborn ways.

Meanwhile, Woolie just plain does retarded shit. Dumbass the steam machine is DESIGNED for [budget] PC gaming. It's a steam branded small form pre-built for the console retards to get into PC gaming easily.

YOU ARE A CONTENT PRODUCER THIS IS YOUR JOB WHY DID YOU NOT BUY A REAL PC DESIGNED FOR YOUR BUSINESS PURPOSES. I know it's because he is retarded, but like.... what a retard.
Don't (real) streamers run a separate PC for dedicated capture anyway? Surely he could set up his old PC alongside the steambox, it's not like it bricked did it?
 
Don't (real) streamers run a separate PC for dedicated capture anyway? Surely he could set up his old PC alongside the steambox, it's not like it bricked did it?

Most streamers seem to have
1) PC that runs the game
2) PC that runs the stream/etc

But you can run both off the same PC, it just has some cons compared to using two (a game crashing also crashes your stream, intensive games might have lag, if you're recording and shit for later like Woolie does having a big box of ssds is useful, etc).

What the fuck Woolie is trying to do is beyond me. I don't understand what he thinks the steam box will fix.
 
What the fuck Woolie is trying to do is beyond me. I don't understand what he thinks the steam box will fix.
Woolie is using the Steam Machine as a console in this case and having another PC do the recording. His original PC was dying because he had it handle the: rendering, streaming, and recording on a single device. He has a backup PC for footage, but it's only there as a local backup in case his internet goes down. He's doing the same thing as his main PC with the Steam Machine, but it's not powerful enough for bigger games. Which is why he's somewhat disappointed with the product.
 
Woolie is using the Steam Machine as a console in this case and having another PC do the recording. His original PC was dying because he had it handle the: rendering, streaming, and recording on a single device. He has a backup PC for footage, but it's only there as a local backup in case his internet goes down. He's doing the same thing as his main PC with the Steam Machine, but it's not powerful enough for bigger games. Which is why he's somewhat disappointed with the product.
Madness. This is like a NASCAR driver trading in his old stock car for a Mazda and expecting to win a race...
 
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