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The issue is that women only see a small percentage of the male population. They see what’s on TV and movies and shit. The pooner thinks that all men are CEOs or rock stars or fighter pilots or some shit. The men who keep society running like water operators, garbage men, or line men do not exist to them. Women will never understand what it’s like to be a man, the isolation and lack of care from society at large. It doesn’t even occur to them because they play a large role in it by not even noticing all the men around them who, frankly, keep them alive and allow them to live a life that’s care free.
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@Paper Machete replied I want to add you're conflating two different things.
My post was specifically about gender ideals instilled upon children and teenagers, which are harmful especially for those who fall outside the stereotypical mold.
These gender ideals have little to do with what actual "services" a sex might bring or not bring to a society.
A lot of TiFs are basically immature or late-blooming adults (often caused by mental illness) who still live on the assumptions their guardians have instilled into them. The difference is you'd usually outgrow these ideals (like I did) and discover the world for yourself and make your life into something that fits you as an individual.
I didn't spell it out in the original post, but I will now: Women don't have to ever have kids if they don't want to. Women never have to wear make-up if they don't want to. Women don't need to follow beauty standards if they don't want to. Women aren't worth less because they don't follow these ideals.
If we as a society where more willing to accept these things a big motivation for women to turn to poonism would subside.
To your topic at hand,
@Paper Machete has already said all the things I'd have liked to say.
You fail to grasp you yourself also have a shallow view of the opposing sex, leading to the same problems you lament.
I think real connections between sexes such as friendships are necessary to learn and care about each other's struggles. It isn't a secret that incels all have in common not having had any meaningful relationships with women and having completely skewed beliefs as a result.
You basically just outed yourself.
One of the languages I speak is a lot of harsh choking sounds and talking pooners still sound like emotional frogs.
I think she was on the roids, so maybe they're giving her that gender affirming early menopause
