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What you say may be true for most people, but I never hated the new trek until Std. I loved tng, DS9, Voyager, hell even Enterprise at the time.
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Enterprise and everything before it is old trek, everything after it is new trek. That has been pretty well established for a while now.
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- 27 de Oct, 2017
They were saying that when TNG came out at the time people hated it for not being TOS, and then they hated DS9 for not being TNG. I don't really remember there being a lot of hate for Voyager, but I'm sure it was there too.
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- 21 de Oct, 2018
the first season of TNG was Shit and the show never realy worked.
they hated it because it wasnt a good star trek show. but it was peak scifi so they came around, even if its not good star trek.
because the show started good and people just didnt care a couple of seasons in. its very forgetable and even its main selling point looked pretty ugly compared to the woman of DS9.
the only show that was unfairly hated was enterprise. it was a decent show with alot of potential cut short in a time when we had very good scifi.
new trek is just soulless and so low quality.
Okay? I don't really doubt that, but "Modern trek" has been shit since the Abrams movies back in 2009 and helmed by the same guy who keeps making shit...oh and modern trek media is ACTUAL garbage that hasn't, and absolutely won't, be remembered fondly like old trek.
Even Enterprise has its share of defenders (Season 3 is fucking great, sue me). No one really defends anything about modern trek after it stops being relevant for the keyboard activists these new trek shows court once they stop watching an episode in and move on to some other cherished property Hollywood is raping to defend it from the actual fans of the property.
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- 16 de Nov, 2022
Meh, I remember being excited for Enterprise and finding the first half of S1 boring as shit before I gave up watching it. The intro credits were an abortion of a choice. When I revisited it a decade later, S3 is where it found it's stride and became good. Shame that shit decisions killed it tbh.
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- 12 de Dic, 2022
Alright, what the hell happened.
I finished Season 2 and I have to say that was probably the perfect season in my book. I loved the first season despite being rough around the edges but it was light-hearted and fun and the jokes and writing were damn good for being the start of a brand new television show. Season 2 came along and I was blown away, they managed to find a perfect balance between serious episodes and moments and the comedy and goofiness from the first season. The writing was still top-notch and did some really creative things that I didn't see coming, I went into it blind and came out feeling like there was no way the show could drop the ball. Then came Season 3.
So for a point of reference I'm only a few episodes into Season 3 and I have yet to finish it but from the get-go I could tell something was wrong. Keeping in mind I jumped right into Season 3 after the finale of Season 2 and it was immediately apparent that it had changed hands and this was before the title and Hulu name drop came on screen. At first I just thought it was rusty around the edges since it had been a few years and that it would work itself out but as the episode progressed the more disappointed I got. Now I don't like change but I held that at bay to see where they'd take the first episode and halfway through I was about done. The ship, while the changes they've made would make sense, it just felt soulless and sterile whereas before it had a sense of warmth and homeliness and that describes the writing as well. Don't get me wrong, I liked the concepts of both the 2nd and 3rd episode but besides that it just felt like it was lacking soul, even when Ed Mercer shouted orders from his Captain's chair it felt so robotic and narrated rather than how he had done it before which came off as genuine. The comedy and light-heartedness was also dialed back to almost nothing with the occasional jabs here and there which didn't get a laugh from me. The CGI has actually gotten worse especially noticeable on the 2nd episode whereas before it was mostly seamless and didn't seem rushed. That pretty much describes it, the show feels rushed in Season 3 or on a small budget.
Anyhow, didn't mean to type a novel but I had to express just how jarring the show has become in Season 3, I don't know if the writers were swapped, Hulu dropped the hammer on all creative aspects, or what but so far it's sinking. Tell me I'm the only one thinks this or feel free to argue in defense of it, I'm just bewildered.
I finished Season 2 and I have to say that was probably the perfect season in my book. I loved the first season despite being rough around the edges but it was light-hearted and fun and the jokes and writing were damn good for being the start of a brand new television show. Season 2 came along and I was blown away, they managed to find a perfect balance between serious episodes and moments and the comedy and goofiness from the first season. The writing was still top-notch and did some really creative things that I didn't see coming, I went into it blind and came out feeling like there was no way the show could drop the ball. Then came Season 3.
So for a point of reference I'm only a few episodes into Season 3 and I have yet to finish it but from the get-go I could tell something was wrong. Keeping in mind I jumped right into Season 3 after the finale of Season 2 and it was immediately apparent that it had changed hands and this was before the title and Hulu name drop came on screen. At first I just thought it was rusty around the edges since it had been a few years and that it would work itself out but as the episode progressed the more disappointed I got. Now I don't like change but I held that at bay to see where they'd take the first episode and halfway through I was about done. The ship, while the changes they've made would make sense, it just felt soulless and sterile whereas before it had a sense of warmth and homeliness and that describes the writing as well. Don't get me wrong, I liked the concepts of both the 2nd and 3rd episode but besides that it just felt like it was lacking soul, even when Ed Mercer shouted orders from his Captain's chair it felt so robotic and narrated rather than how he had done it before which came off as genuine. The comedy and light-heartedness was also dialed back to almost nothing with the occasional jabs here and there which didn't get a laugh from me. The CGI has actually gotten worse especially noticeable on the 2nd episode whereas before it was mostly seamless and didn't seem rushed. That pretty much describes it, the show feels rushed in Season 3 or on a small budget.
Anyhow, didn't mean to type a novel but I had to express just how jarring the show has become in Season 3, I don't know if the writers were swapped, Hulu dropped the hammer on all creative aspects, or what but so far it's sinking. Tell me I'm the only one thinks this or feel free to argue in defense of it, I'm just bewildered.
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- 27 de Sep, 2022
Yeah, Season 3 was still perfectly watchable. Could have done with a few more gags for me, but then I think that of literally every tv program ever, including the news.
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- 12 de Dic, 2022
I hate to say it but I was slightly wrong and spoke too soon. The next day I got into Episode 4 and 5, both were fantastic and heralded back to the earlier seasons in terms of quality and writing with the humor getting a bit better. I don't know what it was, maybe those first three episodes were stinkers or were half-baked or maybe it was just the spider episode that sunk me with how bad the CGI was.
I still got the rest of the season to watch but I'm more optimistic now and will jump back on here once I finish.
I still got the rest of the season to watch but I'm more optimistic now and will jump back on here once I finish.
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- 16 de Nov, 2022
Season 3 went back over storylines that should have just been left in the past, or brought out in Season 8 or something. There were, what 2 episodes about gender and gay klingons, and data's romance with the doctor again? Filler trash basically
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- 3 de Sep, 2018
What fucking show are you even talking about?
Who pissed on your Cheerios this morning?
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- 12 de Dic, 2022
Alright, finished Season 3. I think it's fair to say I sperged out a bit too early because after the first 3 episodes the show picked up in quality but now that I finished the season I can safely say the last two episodes sucked.
The 2nd to last could have been extended out to a two-parter because everything felt rushed and that moment before the explosion was extremely gay and ruined any impact the moment had. The idea that a decorated admiral would suddenly turncoat just to be killed was ridiculous given that this character has been given no prior development to do so and seemed like a lazy way to explain away the rest of the plot. Speaking of, the jump from the episode prior to this one with the characters suddenly have a gotcha device was the worst part because that was just dropped onto the viewers lap so that the season could end in one more episode.
The final episode was trash, because they had rushed everything in the previous episode this one was entirely filler because they needed a nice round number to end the season on. I skipped through most of it before just calling it quits.
Every other episode before it was good, the one with Malone hit pretty hard and the episode where Chad Coleman returns just hit me with how good of an actor the dude is. I would say Season 3 was the weakest of the three and because of that I have no idea if a Season 4 will even come out and where they'd take it but at this point but I think things would have been better off if they stopped after Season 2.
The 2nd to last could have been extended out to a two-parter because everything felt rushed and that moment before the explosion was extremely gay and ruined any impact the moment had. The idea that a decorated admiral would suddenly turncoat just to be killed was ridiculous given that this character has been given no prior development to do so and seemed like a lazy way to explain away the rest of the plot. Speaking of, the jump from the episode prior to this one with the characters suddenly have a gotcha device was the worst part because that was just dropped onto the viewers lap so that the season could end in one more episode.
The final episode was trash, because they had rushed everything in the previous episode this one was entirely filler because they needed a nice round number to end the season on. I skipped through most of it before just calling it quits.
Every other episode before it was good, the one with Malone hit pretty hard and the episode where Chad Coleman returns just hit me with how good of an actor the dude is. I would say Season 3 was the weakest of the three and because of that I have no idea if a Season 4 will even come out and where they'd take it but at this point but I think things would have been better off if they stopped after Season 2.
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- 30 de Abr, 2016
Given that Disney's now testing the market for Hulu's sale, and the Orville was already the red-headed stepchild of a different network, they were probably right to.
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- 31 de Ene, 2021
I mean, even just getting punted from Fox to Hulu made their situation precarious. While I'm disappointed everything felt rushed, I am at least glad they had the opportunity to wrap up the storylines.
Its sad the The Orville is potentially dead, and things like Picard and Discovery keep getting made.
Plus, Disney and Hulu are both making way for a Futurama revival in terms of new sci-fi content, now that The Orville has ended and Solar Opposites is in complete limbo.
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- 2 de Ago, 2021
Things that have not aged well:
Orville, 2022
Orville, 2022