The Orville appreciation thread - IE, the actual new Star Trek

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Great ending. We needed more character driven episodes this season. Appreciate Alara showing up again one last time too. I can accept this as the ending, but am hoping for Season 4. At least with the book it seems like McFarlene isn't going to let it go if he can't wrangle more episodes of the show.

At least with one door closing, another opens. Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is actually good and if you like The Orville you should give it a chance. The first SNW episode is even a good prime directive episode like what The Orville ended on.
 
Anime Goddess dijo:
Fandom Menance youtubers, instead of acting like beggars expecting the the woke cultists to change, they won't, they could've supported this.
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It's sort of like that Dave Chapelle bit on Jussie Smollet: we were supporting you by not saying anything. The FM youtubers know that their entire grift is bitching about what they don't like and that their audience is conditioned for that. So, they could do hugbox videos where they only say positive things, but those videos don't perform well and are probably boring for them to do. Or they could try and do a balanced, honest review but literally every negative thing they say will be amplified by their audience out of proportion because they have trained them like circus seals.
 
They better not cancel The Orville, this is the Star Trek we desperately needed. It's not perfect, but it's the best we can get right now. Say what you want, but you can tell everyone involved truly loves Star Trek. Good shit.
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I like that they still had some silly moments every once in a while.
 
Oilspill Battery dijo:
I have an alternative hypothesis: You're a retard with no imagination blinded by contemporary politics.

I watch TV shows for escapism, not politics. I don't judge the plots of the series based on what contemporary politics I personally agree or don't agree with, I take the scenario at face value as presented and judge it within the universe its in because its a fun and intresting thought experiment to wonder how the culture of species with different history and biology would work.

50 years from now when trannism has the same status as lobotomy people watching the moclan episodes are still going to find them intresting because its also statement on conformity and collectivism vs individuality and the responsibility one has to society as well as the expectations society has of its citizens.

The scenario of rare female children born in a hyper industrialized all male society is an intresting one. I side with the moclans not out of contemporary politics but because given the in universe context what they do makes sense.


What ideas would that be?

The female child one throws enough bones around that both sides can see either choice as either being for or against them. Which again, I don't care because I'm not judging that scenario based on contemporary politics, I'm judging it based on the universe its in.

As for moclans persecuting heterosexuals, the message is pretty clear although hamfisted, like you said its a basic inversion, if we take it for the message its trying to send its "dont prosecute sexual minorities" i.e. "gays good", which I'm 99% sure most of the people supporting the moclans oppose, so what is even your point there?



You don't think mercer and kelly compromising the alliance in the middle of a war with terminator planet for the sake of imposing their own morals on a completely culture is an issue on of itself? Yeah we know the good guys win, but they don't. For all they know they're the reason the galaxy gets wiped.
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what are you talking about. You seem to be agreeing with me that it's stupid to ree about the Moclan episodes for 'pushing a woke agenda' but then acting like that's what I was doing.
 
Dollar Store Sentai dijo:
I'm just hoping Seth's memberberries are done for the season and we get more original plots now instead of consequences from the first two seasons back to back to back.
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I thought the same and yeah that didn't happen, every episode was a sequel in some fashion, and a few even feel like partial remakes of TNG episodes. What if Data didn't want to be human and Worf wasn't a shitty father? Now we know.

Sometimes I wonder how the show would feel for somebody who never watched TNG and doesn't know who Seth MacFarlane is. They might be wondering why everybody's always drinking and what's up with the big band music. Seth has not buried the subtext of him doing his own self-insert TNG fanfic too deeply. I figure ensign whatserface's "special talent" for 4D chess must be a metaphor for some other kind of "special talent" that came into play during the casting process, hell I'm afraid to ask.

Allanon dijo:
Some people are so stuck in their politics and determined to see woke agenda that they refuse to see 'forcing gender transition is bad, discriminating against heterosexuality is bad' despite it being directly on screen, and instead side with 'gays should have more rights than straights' and 'forcing gender reassignment surgery on your children even when it causes extreme psychological distress is good because better dead than cis'. Yes, the Moclan plots are a basic inversion with such an obvious allegory that a child could see it,
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What could gender dysphoria even be in a society with no real gender roles, in a species where men give birth, for a boy who's never even seen a female of his own species, and is expected to be attracted to men anyway? None of the characters can really come out and say what it means to feel or be masculine or feminine because they're supposed to be in a post-sexist 90s PC utopia. Who says waifish women can't thrash dozens of burly armed men in a fist fight? Misogynists, that's who. Anyway, it must have been a fun surprise for Topa to find out what his new genitals looked like.
 
Meriasek dijo:
They better not cancel The Orville, this is the Star Trek we desperately needed. It's not perfect, but it's the best we can get right now. Say what you want, but you can tell everyone involved truly loves Star Trek. Good shit.
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I like that they still had some silly moments every once in a while.
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Two-Eyes Isaac ain't nothing to fuck with. Brought his own people to heel, is equal with the supreme leader of his race, and does the absolute impossible: discipline two little niglets spawned from a single black mother.

I mean, damn. How do you top that? Man's also immortal.
 
I dropped out mid-first season but I was actually enjoying it more than I could with the official NuTrek. How has it been since then (without spoiling), has it mostly stayed about as good as it started or has it gotten worse? Better?
 
Checkerboard Hero dijo:
I dropped out mid-first season but I was actually enjoying it more than I could with the official NuTrek. How has it been since then (without spoiling), has it mostly stayed about as good as it started or has it gotten worse? Better?
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Bought luke warm for me, it is worth going back to finish the episodes IMO, I don't even like Star Trek.
 
Checkerboard Hero dijo:
I dropped out mid-first season but I was actually enjoying it more than I could with the official NuTrek. How has it been since then (without spoiling), has it mostly stayed about as good as it started or has it gotten worse? Better?
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There's a tonal shift about halfway into the second season. Before that there's a lot of comedy in each episode, but afterwards it gets much more serious in terms of subject matter. I enjoyed all the seasons even with the changes.
 
Checkerboard Hero dijo:
I dropped out mid-first season but I was actually enjoying it more than I could with the official NuTrek. How has it been since then (without spoiling), has it mostly stayed about as good as it started or has it gotten worse? Better?
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Better really. By the second season it's not as comedic as other of Seth's shows (even though there are some humor here or there, just not on the level as American Dad, The Cleveland Show, the first Ted or especially even Family Guy), and it gets better every season especially with its tonal shift, and it's still better than any of nuTrek any day of the week.
 
Which dumb cunt thought that the final episode of Season 3 was worth anyone's time? Goddamn it's boring, stupid and dull. Series should have ended with the previous episode, not yet ANOTHER Issac/nigdoctor love story.
 
Wanted to drop an update since I had gotten back into the show, I haven't entirely finished Season 1 yet but man after all the bullshit with NuTrek it's really refreshing returning to form even if it's not Star Trek. Even some of the smaller things like starting the episode with the ship flying through space with a low-rumble isn't something I ever thought I'd miss even if it doesn't have the famous "Captain's Log" monologue. I plan to finish Season 1 today, I originally stopped around Ep7 a couple years back and after starting over from the beginning I'm on Ep9 now and really enjoying it.
 
Meriasek dijo:
They better not cancel The Orville, this is the Star Trek we desperately needed. It's not perfect, but it's the best we can get right now. Say what you want, but you can tell everyone involved truly loves Star Trek. Good shit.
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I like that they still had some silly moments every once in a while.
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I didn't know the new season was out, but that one screen shot warms my cold dead clown heart.
 
Alex Kurtzman is a smug LA faggot who gets to play with Daddy's toys because the network hasn't found a tampon commercial to throw him at. I don't even like Star trek that much but I can tell the new shit sucks.
I can respect Seth because instead of groveling to executives he just decided to make his own cozy space adventure show. With blackjack, and hookers.
 
ShiftyBoi dijo:
Alex Kurtzman is a smug LA faggot who gets to play with Daddy's toys because the network hasn't found a tampon commercial to throw him at. I don't even like Star trek that much but I can tell the new shit sucks.
I can respect Seth because instead of groveling to executives he just decided to make his own cozy space adventure show. With blackjack, and hookers.
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Alex Kurtzman is a typical Hollywood manchild that pretends to act like he's a writer, which says a lot of these LA retards that write and submit fanfiction for movie and TV.
 
Hating the latest Trek is a time-honoured tradition (nothing will ever redeem STD, I'm not saying that) and I think this show suffered a bit from all the dick-sucking. By season 3 the ship's atmosphere was mostly replaced with farts. You guys are warming my heart

If it continues I really hope they pull back to the original underdog vibe a bit. Meshing the inconsistent effort of TNG with comedy really worked, taking yourself seriously while still half-assing really doesn't.
 
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