The NFL Thread - Root for your favorite team (or laugh at the Steelers, whichever's easier)

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Who are you rooting for in Super Bowl 60?

  • New England Patriots

    Votos: 11 22.0%
  • Seattle Seahawks

    Votos: 25 50.0%
  • Team State Farm

    Votos: 1 2.0%
  • The Meteor

    Votos: 13 26.0%

  • Total de votantes
    50
  • Encuesta cerrada .
Get ready for the Indiana Bears

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God bless. We're collecting on new Packers fans on twitter.
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So Hammond Bears or is this gonna be another "New York" Jets/Giants situation and they continue to call them the Chicago Bears?
The latter, 100%. Both because Hammond isn't a marketable city in its own right and because the Colts have a vested interest in keeping "Indiana" as their territory.
 
The latter, 100%. Both because Hammond isn't a marketable city in its own right and because the Colts have a vested interest in keeping "Indiana" as their territory.
I've caught so much shit over the years for the Chiefs being in Missouri, I am never going to shut up about the Indiana Bears.

sorry in advance
 
I've caught so much shit over the years for the Chiefs being in Missouri, I am never going to shut up about the Indiana Bears.

sorry in advance
That one is on some 19th century city planners for naming their city the same name as the territory (later state) across the Missouri River.
 
That one is on some 19th century city planners for naming their city the same name as the territory (later state) across the Missouri River.
KCMO exists because it sits at the confluence of the Kansas and Missouri rivers. Unfortunately for everyone, all the good land for rail yards and river docks was on the east bank of the Missouri.
 
KCMO exists because it sits at the confluence of the Kansas and Missouri rivers. Unfortunately for everyone, all the good land for rail yards and river docks was on the east bank of the Missouri.
Yeah I was more making fun of them for picking that name when it was already apparent that Kansas Territory was right there, but they were in Missouri. However, I got that wrong, KCMO was incorporated 3 years before Kansas Territory was named. So idk I guess DC bureaucrats didn't think "hey maybe naming this territory Kansas is going to cause confusion since there's a burgeoning metropolis right next door in the state of Missouri also called Kansas".
 
Aiyuk calls out the haters. They're calling him an advanced case of Antonio Brown-maxxing in the comments. The man himself seems sure he's playing for a different squad in the upcoming season, and I'm not sure who wants a mentally unstable receiver that badly right now.
Pittsburgh? I know you guys have a type!

“You wanna know why they really mad tho? They mad because they stupid. They mad because they paid me $50M in 8 months. And then voided my guarantees for 2027. And I’m about to be on a new team in 2026. They mad at themselves.”
 
Aiyuk calls out the haters. They're calling him an advanced case of Antonio Brown-maxxing in the comments. The man himself seems sure he's playing for a different squad in the upcoming season, and I'm not sure who wants a mentally unstable receiver that badly right now.
Pittsburgh? I know you guys have a type!


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The man clearly said "avoided my guarantees", why you trynna speak for him FR.
 
The latter, 100%. Both because Hammond isn't a marketable city in its own right and because the Colts have a vested interest in keeping "Indiana" as their territory.
I dont give a fuck. Theyre the Indiana Bears now (if they go through with the move). It gives me great comfort as a Lions fan to know that, no matter how bad the Lions are, no matter how much they suck. They dont suck so bad that their own city, and the entire state, tells them to fuck off and get out!
 
I dont give a fuck. Theyre the Indiana Bears now (if they go through with the move). It gives me great comfort as a Lions fan to know that, no matter how bad the Lions are, no matter how much they suck. They dont suck so bad that their own city, and the entire state, tells them to fuck off and get out!
While I wholeheartedly support making fun of teams that move out of their city and still keep the name, it has less to do with cities wanting to keep them and more to do with owner greed these days. All the owners have seen how Green Bay, Jerryworld, and Patriot Place are money making machines and they want to follow a similar route if they can. Owners want to control the real estate around stadiums so fans aren't going to bars and restaurants, casinos, shopping in stores, and staying in hotels they don't own.

Teams have gotten valued so high and owners so greedy that not even public funding and tax incentives can keep them. I won't even wait for my old man to croak to stop giving a fuck about the NFL if the Birds move to Jersey.
 
All the owners have seen how Green Bay, Jerryworld, and Patriot Place are money making machines and they want to follow a similar route if they can.
And it’s funny because Green Bay achieved this success without quintillions in public funding. The last time they used public funding was in the 90s and it was by a sales tax the citizens of Brown County voted on instead of a unilateral bond issuance like most cities.
 
While I wholeheartedly support making fun of teams that move out of their city and still keep the name, it has less to do with cities wanting to keep them and more to do with owner greed these days. All the owners have seen how Green Bay, Jerryworld, and Patriot Place are money making machines and they want to follow a similar route if they can. Owners want to control the real estate around stadiums so fans aren't going to bars and restaurants, casinos, shopping in stores, and staying in hotels they don't own.

Teams have gotten valued so high and owners so greedy that not even public funding and tax incentives can keep them. I won't even wait for my old man to croak to stop giving a fuck about the NFL if the Birds move to Jersey.
It's nice to imagine it's always just that simple (and there certainly have been times in the past that it is), but Soldier Field proffers a wombo-combo of:
  • a bad location (for football, the park is gorgeous, but transit infrastructure to it sucks, because it's boxed in they can't expand the footprint of the stadium, which it desperately needs, and there is no surrounding district of stadium-supporting businesses, owner-owned or otherwise, so people just come in for games and GTFO)
  • a bad city government (do I really need to outline how Chicago isn't a well run city, and through that are a pretty poor landlord? The renovations in the 2000's only happened so fast because getting shovels in the ground was the best legal strategy to defeat the amount of lawsuits NIMBYs in the city were throwing at it, and the modern city government hasn't proved nearly as strategic in the talks they've had re: fixing Soldier Field's issues. The relationship is made worse by the lack of a stadium district, by the way. Every other downtown stadium has one, not owned by the team owners, and that brings in a lot of tax revenue that positively biases the city to the team. Not so in Chicago)
  • a bad state government (again, known issue, but I will point out that when the Bears decided, after dealing with Chicago, that building their own JerryWorld was the next step to take, Pritzker et al came in wanting 5x the annual property tax assessment that Kroenke is paying for So-Fi in Inglewood? So-Fi's in the middle of LA's urban core. Inglewood is one of those hilarious voids you will see in the middle of the city if a map of LA is silhouetted. Arlington Heights is a sleepy suburb, bordering on exurb, of Chicago. The two bills are wildly disproportionate when examined by uninterested parties)
 
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