The Dragon Prince - Pretty Good

[Activelo]

And it's out. First episode is up on Youtube.

 

[H. Bergeron]

This season was fucking DIRE. Worst time jump ever, 2 years and no one changed. The kingdom should be on fire because the idiot speech making 12 year old king doesn't actually handle any problems and added a fucking BAKER to his small council. Who else is on it, an absolute hiimbo who has gotten dumber every year, his useless uncle, and the one woman who apparently does all of the fucking work. It wouldn't fucking be that bad but the show keeps trying to pretend it is taking its world and characters seriously ala Avatar, and it just faceplants.

Nothing has changed, the characters are exactly the same 2 years later as they were at the end of season 3, so why fucking bother. That and there are like three episodes worth of plot in these nine episodes.

DykeWedding? Cut that shit, it means nothing. Farting tranny elf? Why even bother. Shit was the most token bullshit I have seen in this show, and that means something. The show always had woke bullshit, but it stayed just past the line of absurdity in seasons 1-3, but it just runs right over it now. I hate when writers put current day social issues in a fantasy world and don't consider the implications of it.

So lezzie elf bitch wants to marry DeafDumb Sue? Okay, so she decided that she's never having kids, and the line ends with her. Being on the throne tends to cause issues of fucking lineage, and we know that is how it works. It would make her brother a better choice, but nah, make it about humans being assholes for helping the negrelves with poor emotional control build a new camp while not wanting it to burn down.

Then we have the token FtM tranny who is dating necromancer girl. Why does it even fucking matter? It is literally a tumblr checkbox for the alphabet crew to diddle their bean over. Not even a horrible character, but what does the trans angle add to it? Fucking nothing. Does it make sense? It's one fucking line, and evil racist Daddy is cool with it. He may hate elves, but trannies are a-ok to fuck his daughter. Literally.

Show was never perfect but this season was a mother fucking shitshow.

 

[Miang]

There is a scene where Claudia goes into loving, borderline fetishistic detail to her newly-resurrected father about how her trans elf boyfriend's farts smell like petrichor.

There is a second scene where he/she/it actually does fart while they're scaling a dangerous mountain path and her newly-resurrected father is having a PTSD episode staring at the abyss yawning before them, and Claudia just gives Fartgolas a sly "come fuck me now" smile.

At that point I was just thinking, "Jump, Viren. Jump and be free. The blue is calling."

 

[Chilson]

The show always had woke bullshit, but it stayed just past the line of absurdity in seasons 1-3,

Are you sure about that? There was lesbo queens who adopted their fucking princess who then became a child queen mary sue (which is so many degrees of retarded and nonsensical from every angle). That retarded shit broke me so hard that, if I wasn't watching the show at that point to laugh at all the stupid bullshit and taken it even minutely seriously, I would have left it right then and there.

There is a scene where Claudia goes into loving, borderline fetishistic detail to her newly-resurrected father about how her trans elf boyfriend's farts smell like petrichor.

There is a second scene where he/she/it actually does fart while they're scaling a dangerous mountain path and her newly-resurrected father is having a PTSD episode staring at the abyss yawning before them, and Claudia just gives Fartgolas a sly "come fuck me now" smile.

At that point I was just thinking, "Jump, Viren. Jump and be free. The blue is calling."

Remember that Claudia and her father were leading a fucking GENOCIDAL CRUSADE against the dragons and the elves not two years ago. The fact that Claudia, who still apparently really fucking hates dragons and elves, is dating one and her father is cool with it is just...wow its so retarded I couldn't stop laughing when it was revealed for a good ten minutes.

Why in the fuck would an elf even want to be in that relationship, let alone kill their own kind for Claudia. Its just so fucking funny.

 

[Sparky Lurker]

You know, since season 5 went live on Netflix I decided to binge watch the series , the first 3 seasons really kept me hooked on the plot, even with the few issues it has, but by the first episode of season 4 I dropped and lost interest, it had enough redflags:
-2 year timeskip.
-During this time, protagonist got an androgynous hairstyle, parted ways with his elf gf and didn't attempt to learn other elemental magics.
-Important royal meeting where a baker and a frog get seats.
-Reference to internet zoomer dance.
-Interracial royal lesbian marriage with characters that barely had any screentime together.
Maybe I was harshly judging a current year kids show and I decided to check reviews on the internet if this was the case, but no, the lesbian marriage is a fucking major sideplot throughout the entire season and the new Elf character is a trans ftm with fart issues. With this I didn't even have enough energy to give a shit about season 5 and if improved the plot or not.
I got easy since I only spent like 2 days watching the first 3 seasons, but the people who waited 3 years for season 4 really paid the price for caring about western animation on current year.

 

[Mega Black]

This show is genuinely awful and I can only assume it has coasted along as far as it has due to its ability to constantly look like it is going to get better, only to continue to flounder over and over again. The first three seasons had gigantic issues both in terms of writing and animation and only barely managed to sneak over the line of mediocre by being not as terrible as some other Netflix shit.

Then the later seasons started and just completely fucked whatever might have been good right in the ass.

And what's with the totally fucked morality of the show? It's like the writers are working without any kind of guide whatsoever about the tone and content of what they're supposed to be making. The setting and presentation makes it seem like it's a slightly more mature show with some moral relativity, but then the show portrays elements of the setting and characters that could be slightly more complex like wholly black and white subjects.

I feel like I'm in crazy town whenever someone tells me this show is good.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

Late but I still want to butt in with my deep thoughts:
I liked the show at first but as it kept advancing its morality became increasingly questionable, especially towards dark magic. I gotta say though, the little kid ruler being treated as this being of pure wisdom was worth a cringy chuckle, if nothing else.

Spoiler: Sperging about the show's morality

The way dark magic is portrayed as this unforgivable evil is silly, killing magical creatures to grow food is literally no eviler than killing and eating an animal. Claudia killing a deer to heal her paralyzed brother just didn’t feel like the horrible act the show wanted me to think it is. Callum crushing a magical bug and using it to save people is portrayed as a terrible thing, but him and his friends eating bugs in an earlier episode is perfectly fine?

Viren is also treated as the villain for wanting to defend his country from increasingly hostile foreign forces. And so is Soren for striking at the dragon that was intimidating a village, a dragon who belongs to said hostile foreign force, by the way.

The moment in Mystery of Aaravos where Rex Igneous reveals that the Dragon King purposefully went out of his way to do border control because he liked killing humans annoyed me. If the Dragon Queen always hoped that humans and elves would learn to get along, why didn’t she stop her husband? Why is Rex Igneous treated as an asshole for mocking him? Why is Harrow treated as a sinner for killing him? Because he’s the main character’s father? That's dumb.

 

[madethistocomment]

Late but I still want to butt in with my deep thoughts:
I liked the show at first but as it kept advancing its morality became increasingly questionable, especially towards dark magic. I gotta say though, the little kid ruler being treated as this being of pure wisdom was worth a cringy chuckle, if nothing else.

Spoiler: Sperging about the show's morality

The way dark magic is portrayed as this unforgivable evil is silly, killing magical creatures to grow food is literally no eviler than killing and eating an animal. Claudia killing a deer to heal her paralyzed brother just didn’t feel like the horrible act the show wanted me to think it is. Callum crushing a magical bug and using it to save people is portrayed as a terrible thing, but him and his friends eating bugs in an earlier episode is perfectly fine?

Viren is also treated as the villain for wanting to defend his country from increasingly hostile foreign forces. And so is Soren for striking at the dragon that was intimidating a village, a dragon who belongs to said hostile foreign force, by the way.

The moment in Mystery of Aaravos where Rex Igneous reveals that the Dragon King purposefully went out of his way to do border control because he liked killing humans annoyed me. If the Dragon Queen always hoped that humans and elves would learn to get along, why didn’t she stop her husband? Why is Rex Igneous treated as an asshole for mocking him? Why is Harrow treated as a sinner for killing him? Because he’s the main character’s father? That's dumb.

The show's morality is so fucking schizo and I can't wrap my head around it. Sperging ahead.

It's so clearly biased against the humans and frames every single thing that they do to scrape by in a world that's stacked against them as the greatest evil the world's ever seen. Meanwhile, the elves and dragons (aka the creators' pets) are canonically guilty of ethnically cleansing and genociding humans off of one side of the continent, massacre any humans that come near the border no matter if the humans intend to cross or not, go deep into human territory to harass and destroy settlements, and straight up routinely assassinate human leaders like they're fucking pointy-eared glowies and the show frames them as good, noble people, who are enlightened by the use of Primal Magic and are better than the humans who have had to resort to dark magic to not starve to death.

Every use of dark magic and every attempt by humans to affirm their sovereignty is framed as ultimately bad, no matter what. Claudia saving her famously athletic and independent brother from a lifetime of dependence and depression by sacrificing a fawn to heal his full-body paralysis? Practically irredeemable, in the words of Aaron Ehasz. Viren killing a barely sentient pile of rocks and magma in order to use its heart to prevent hundreds of thousands of humans from starving to death, which is widely considered one of the most miserable ways to die? The show says that he should have just sucked it up and watched as his countrymen starved, because the life of one magical creature matters more than countless human lives. Humans trying to fight back against a foreign power that clearly wants them wiped off the face of the Earth? That's taking it too far and escalating the situation, nevermind that the situation already got escalated the moment the knife-ear glowies put a dagger through the King's throat.

Meanwhile, the little mulatto boy-king can gleefully put hundreds, if not thousands of his own soldiers to the torch via dragonflame on the battlefield and be portrayed as the heroic good guy, because he's fighting against the evil humans who are trying to invade the innocent elves who've done nothing wrong. The elves and dragons, on the other hand, can kill and antagonize humanity with impunity because humans are bad and evil because they use animals in their spells. In fact, humans are just being racist when they fight back and have no valid reason for such clearly unwarranted aggression against the people who are trying to destroy them, because the people trying to destroy them are doing it for good reasons. Humans should always grovel at the elves' and dragons' feet and always apologize first, constantly be outstretching a hand of peace even if the other party's more likely to run you through than actually take it and move on, should never do anything to improve their lot in life because that's bad for the environment and makes the enlightened perfect magical people angry if they do.

I've never seen a show so clearly outline an underdog people who've suffered so many blatant wrongs, and then tried to frame them as the bad guys. And this is an allegedly progressive show, too- you'd think they'd be all over the downtrodden oppressed underdog story. It's fucking baffling.

 

[Squawking Macaw]

It's so clearly biased against the humans and frames every single thing that they do to scrape by in a world that's stacked against them as the greatest evil the world's ever seen.

And it's such a shame because the prologue scene in season 3 shows that the first dark mage actually wasn't an evil guy and just wanted humanity to have a chance. He's depicted in a sympathetic light and it leads you to believe the story will become more nuanced only for it to go "fuck you, human bad elf good."

I'm still watching the whole show to see how it ends but the damn thing's pretty full of itself.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

The little kid prince, Ezra or whatever the fuck his name is, by far is the worst goddamn character I've ever had the misfortune to witness in a television show. He has the moral compass of an overly spoiled toddler and the show just skirts over or outright praises every dumbass thing he does as wise and noble. Season 5 has probably one of the worst examples of this where he decides to steal a bunch of magic glowing chameleons from a fucking pirate king who otherwise had no enmity towards him because said pirate "has something that does not belong to him" and nearly gets his entire group killed because "aww".

I cannot stress enough how much I want this little shit to get violently, painfully murdered in a prolonged execution scene.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I've never seen a show so clearly outline an underdog people who've suffered so many blatant wrongs, and then tried to frame them as the bad guys. And this is an allegedly progressive show, too- you'd think they'd be all over the downtrodden oppressed underdog story. It's fucking baffling.

Because it's not how underdog works nowadays, it's all racial allegory. The humans are white people, with the "right side of history" people being the only ones who deserve to live, while the ignorant ones deserving whatever fate their moral betters dictate.
Non-humans are "minorities" (irregardless of whether they outnumber white people on global scale), and they are morally and culturally superior to humans and have Magical Nigger Magic that is pure and aligned with nature.

It's clown world version of White Man's Burden - a sense of superiority over fellow men mixed with treating over races as non human and bloodthirsty uncaring to whatever atrocities committed on the "unenlightened".

 

[Mega Black]

Elves are the voice of the creators, so everything they do is morally correct regardless of how evil it is from a removed angle.

The humans are white people, with the "right side of history" people being the only ones who deserve to live,

Specifically I think humans are an allegory for human ambition and drive, thus evil. Dark magic is essentially fossil fuels or the meat industry depending on the moment, and it is bad when humanity wants to exact vengeance because it's perpetuating violence (even though it's done righteously and in retaliation)

Elves are just socal liberal faggots, not even a stand in for minorities, they're Hollywood bourgeois 'naturally superior' people who should have free reign to run all over their lessers, who are only 'good' if they follow their example to the letter.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Specifically I think humans are an allegory for human ambition and drive, thus evil. Dark magic is essentially fossil fuels or the meat industry depending on the moment, and it is bad when humanity wants to exact vengeance because it's perpetuating violence (even though it's done righteously and in retaliation)

Elves are just socal liberal faggots, not even a stand in for minorities, they're Hollywood bourgeois 'naturally superior' people who should have free reign to run all over their lessers, who are only 'good' if they follow their example to the letter.

Maybe 10 years ago, but we have a plethora of modern examples how minorities are considered to be non human fantasy races (usually Elves as Jews and Orks as Niggers) and due to being above criticism in regular media, are considered to be enlightened race. Meanwhile white people are humans and are the only ones capable of evil because racism of low expectations.

The whole dark magic shit as a parallel to some environmental bad thing is so old and gay. There are no replacements offered and the writers are always the most extreme consoomers of tech.

 

[Trollblade69]

Season 6 of this thing just came out. How does it fuck up this time?

 

[Mega Black]

Season 6 of this thing just came out. How does it fuck up this time?

Only a couple episodes in and the tone is completely schizophrenic. It opens with Claudia body horror and blood and gore, massive depression and sadness, and Viren for some reason decides to abandon his daughter rather than help her see the light despite preaching to her later about how much he lead her astray. Everything that was hinted at in the last season finale has essentially been walked back.

Then we cut to goofy kid-friendly shenanigans.

Every scene was clearly animated by several subcommittees or different teams because the scenes never stretch longer than two minutes a pop.

The cast has ballooned to such an insane size that we aren't even dealing with B, C, or D plots, but E and Z plots. I felt like virtually nothing was accomplished and progressed in the first two episodes. It was all retreading shit we already knew or getting the characters to leave the castle for like the ninth time.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

The only thing I can say about The Dragon Prince is that it's remarkable how a show that's supposed to be about some epic world-threatening stakes ends up feeling so small-scale and irrelevant. Also that little kid, Ezra or whatever the fuck his name is, needs to die, slowly and painfully.

 

[Raiken]

ibhate that everyone now has a shitty mascot thing, one more anoyingvthen the next.

nobody talks like they are talking to a person.

why is claudia off to to talk to her dad and lets her wet blanket of a boyfriend decide for her wat to do. she lost her leg, made a blood sacrifice with her homonculus half brother, kills countless creatures and gets corrupted and he can't tell her she needs to stop doing it?

 

[Raiken]

just tells alot that people don't even post here when the new season came out.
i can't believe an arch dragon gave his life for a piece of cake, and they they have been telling us "the king's soul did not get swapped with the bird" and then just do exactly that.

 

[God of Nothing]

Season 6 of this thing just came out. How does it fuck up this time?

it has six fucking seasons?

 

[Raiken]

it has six fucking seasons?

seven.
and it build up to a season eight.