The Birth Control Thread - Because Aunty Flow Motherfucking Blows

[Toasty]

I had that stupid Nexplanon implant in my arm. The first three months were great until I randomly started to get sick practically every other day, then every day, then every single night. I couldn't lay down, I couldn't sit, everything was uncomfortable in my body and I even lost weight due to this bullshit because who the hell wants to eat food when you're constantly puking your guts up. The mood swings/changes got pretty bad too, and it ultimately led to me demanding that a doctor pull the bullshit out. The E.R. first denied me because "oh well we didn't do it so it's not our responsibility", so I went to a Planned Parenthood copycat and demanded they take me in due to the fact that I was sick nearly every day and couldn't function properly.

All in all, fuck birth control. Your fiance/boyfriend is a retard if they can't successfully pull out every time. Condoms also are fine, just invest in Okamoto/Crown, they're thinner than your usual Trojan so I don't want to hear bullshit about how your dick "can't feel a thing".

I had norplant, which is apparently equivalent, it's a 5 year implant in the arm. Had the first set put in at 15, was peachy. So peachy that on the removal day I had them put in a new set in the other arm. 2 years later I wasn't having monthly PMS. I was having monthly psychosis. Absolute wreck. My body chemistry was completely fucked. And then the removal was wacky. The couldn't find them all. Finally got it out, but still needed a contraceptive in my life, I went on a lo dose pill after and was ok.

 

[Reepicheep]

I had norplant, which is apparently equivalent, it's a 5 year implant in the arm. Had the first set put in at 15, was peachy. So peachy that on the removal day I had them put in a new set in the other arm. 2 years later I wasn't having monthly PMS. I was having monthly psychosis. Absolute wreck. My body chemistry was completely fucked. And then the removal was wacky. The couldn't find them all. Finally got it out, but still needed a contraceptive in my life, I went on a lo dose pill after and was ok.

okay now im not getting it, it seemed the lesser evil than getting the iud, im suseptible to psychosis.

 

[Letora]

Ngl, I'm trying to doctor shop for a uterine ablation, but none in my area seem to perform them on a childless woman. :/ which quite frankly, is absolute fucking bullshit nonsense, I don't need a doctor assuming my life choices for me based on their own emotionally-charged opinions. Either give me a medically based reason to not perform it, or fuck off. "But babies are a miracle!!!" Is not a medically based, objective response. And no, a child I bore would not be a "miracle", it would likely be a deformed garbage rat from all my defect causing psych meds, or worse, get fucked up beyond all recognition from the fact that I am nuts and can't be without those same drugs. Maybe mentally ill women shouldn't reproduce at all! For completely practical, rational, reasons.


Surgical options like ablation, cryofreezing, or even tubal ligation- are without the long term medical complications from hormonal options, do not have the same risks as long term implants or IUDs, and are put patient or in office procedures. Long gone are the days wherein a crazy woman's only option was a hysterectomy involving being sliced left to right. Bring back sterilization.

Does ablation stop periods and make you completely sterile? If so that sounds like something I need. The IUD has been great so far but I don't like the fact that I technically have a very slight risk of pregnancy (I fear rape and live in the bible belt). I'm in the same boat, batshit crazy and pregnancy/childbirth would probably end in a bloodbath.

I wish it was as easy for women to get sterilized as prolife men seem to think it is.

Uterine ablation reduces your chance of pregnancy but it is in no way sterilizing. What you really want added in is a bilateral salpingectomy, which removes both your fallopian tubes but spares the ovaries. 100% effective with no chance of being undone like tubal ligation, reduces your risk of cancer, doesn't mess with your hormones, and doesn't cause prolapses or pain during sex, or nerve damage that can lead to incontinence like hysterectomies can.

 

[Toasty]

okay now im not getting it, it seemed the lesser evil than getting the iud, im suseptible to psychosis.

It depends on what your personal needs and health are. I personally would say that an IUD is way better than an implant any day. There are hormonal implants that will help regulate menstrual cycles and pms, as well as IUDs that are hormone free. I'd recommend the depo shot before the implants, as they are generally the same combo of hormones, but all you need to do to get them out of you if you have a bad reaction is not get another shot.
We seem to have a good spread of experience here, but nothing is better than talking to your doctor. If they are a a worthwhile doctor they won't judge you. If they do, report the fucker and get a new one.If you live in the United states and don't have one please feel free to pm me and I will do my best to help you find reproductive healthcare.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

There are mitigating factors, including mass poverty(not so-much, now), tribal conflict masked as civil wars, horrible geographic positions, made-up borders, etc, etc. Under these conditions, it's impossible(unless you're from a former communist country) not to procreate. Your gens could become extinct.

What people’s are in danger of extinction from using birth control?

The only people I’m aware of that they fear could be come extinct are (totally non-BC using) tribes in the Amazon due to other humans destroying their forests and with it their ways of life. The extinction usually feared with humans is cultural or “way of life” issues, not genetic extinction.

I’m struggling to find any human populations that there’s any danger of extinction that’s genetic, instead of cultural.

 

[biozeminadae1]

What people’s are in danger of extinction from using birth control?

Former Eastern Bloc nations like the Bulgarians, the Latvians, the Lithuanians, the North "Macedonians".

 

[Toasty]

What people’s are in danger of extinction from using birth control?

The only people I’m aware of that they fear could be come extinct are (totally non-BC using) tribes in the Amazon due to other humans destroying their forests and with it their ways of life. The extinction usually feared with humans is cultural or “way of life” issues, not genetic extinction.

I’m struggling to find any human populations that there’s any danger of extinction that’s genetic, instead of cultural.

Agreed. It's a proven fact that when people have reproductive healthcare birthrates do drop, but infant and mother mortality correspondingly drops as well. So women aren't having 11 babies, having 2 survive, then dying in childbirth, they're having 2 babies and living a healthy life to raise the little ankle biters.
Edit: grammar

 

[CrystalChevvy]

My high school friend is a midwife and when we had our small hs get togethers during uni years, all our former classmates would swarm her and ask questions about gyno stuff. Girls "on the pill" learned that all of them were misusing them - they were taking them too long, without breaks, didnt change them after some years of use etc. Worse part? Their gynos didnt tell them shit about the safe use of it exept basics like "remember to take them every day", some of them didnt even bother to ask them about smoking. Their approach is too casual.

It's perfectly fine to take them without breaks, no risk associated. There is no physiological need for the placebo days. There's also no reason to change them after some years of use if you're not experiencing any problems with them.
It is not a problem for a woman under 35 to be on the combined pill even if she's a smoker if she doesn't have other coagulation risks.

 

[Android raptor]

Uterine ablation reduces your chance of pregnancy but it is in no way sterilizing. What you really want added in is a bilateral salpingectomy, which removes both your fallopian tubes but spares the ovaries. 100% effective with no chance of being undone like tubal ligation, reduces your risk of cancer, doesn't mess with your hormones, and doesn't cause prolapses or pain during sex like hysterectomies can.

Does it stop periods though? Because I do not want any monthly subscription to Satan's waterfall.

 

[Lady Round Buns]

I had a copper IUD for five years, and it completely ruined my health. My hair was falling out, I had depression and anxiety problems, I was gaining weight despite not eating much and working out 5 times a week (and once gained couldn't lose it), my glands were constantly swollen, my face is puffy seemingly permanently and I generally felt awful. I didn't make the connection until I started looking into whether other women were having problems with it, and that's when I learned about copper toxicity.

Basically the copper that is released into your body of course does not just stay in the uterus. This is bio-unavailable copper so your body can't use it, and it's stored in organs, in my case my liver. The medical community doesn't acknowledge that copper toxicity is possible, nor do they tell you the synergistic relationship between copper and estrogen. So the excess copper led to estrogen dominance, I started having skin problems when I've never been one to break out, and my periods were very painful when I'd never get cramps before. I had it removed 3 or 4 years ago, and I'm STILL having problems, because again the doctors say it's not a thing, which is insanity. My liver still isn't functioning properly, and that's had a domino effect on my adrenals and thyroid, my endocrine system in general.

I wish I'd never gotten it.

 

[biozeminadae1]

Agreed. It's a proven fact that when people have reproductive healthcare birthrates do drop, but infant and mother mortality correspondingly drops as well. So women aren't having 11 babies, having 2 survive, then dying in childbirth, they're having 2 babies and living a healthy life to raise the little ankle biters.
Edit: grammar

The nations mentioned are below the replacement rate. They are also poverty-stricken. Clearly, the decline of fertility rates hasn't benefitted them.

 

[Toasty]

The nations are mentioned are below the replacement rate. They are also poverty-stricken. Clearly, the decline of fertility rates hasn't benefitted them.

Ok. So they are poverty stricken. And below replacement rate. So before we talk about getting them to have more babies to get them above replacement rate, maybe we should get them out of poverty so they can feed, raise, educate, and make something of those babies.

 

[Toasty]

I had a copper IUD for five years, and it completely ruined my health. My hair was falling out, I had depression and anxiety problems, I was gaining weight despite not eating much and working out 5 times a week (and once gained couldn't lose it), my glands were constantly swollen, my face is puffy seemingly permanently and I generally felt awful. I didn't make the connection until I started looking into whether other women were having problems with it, and that's when I learned about copper toxicity.

Basically the copper that is released into your body of course does not just stay in the uterus. This is bio-unavailable copper so your body can't use it, and it's stored in organs, in my case my liver. The medical community doesn't acknowledge that copper toxicity is possible, nor do they tell you the synergistic relationship between copper and estrogen. So the excess copper led to estrogen dominance, I started having skin problems when I've never been one to break out, and my periods were very painful when I'd never get cramps before. I had it removed 3 or 4 years ago, and I'm STILL having problems, because again the doctors say it's not a thing, which is insanity. My liver still isn't functioning properly, and that's had a domino effect on my adrenals and thyroid, my endocrine system in general.

I wish I'd never gotten it.

Tx for this info. I mean this. I have a copper IUD and am a bit of a cheerleader for it. While your situation is not mine, I hope that everyone gets to hear everything. Good bad and ugly. I never even thought of copper toxicity. I was completely focused on blood clots, (reasonable for me) but I don't always think of other factors when I discuss options with other women.

 

[biozeminadae1]

Ok. So they are poverty stricken. And below replacement rate. So before we talk about getting them to have more babies to get them above replacement rate, maybe we should get them out of poverty so they can feed, raise, educate, and make something of those babies.

Banning condoms and all other contraceptives is a start. More children raised means a larger workforce. A larger workforce leads to more population potential.

I forgot to mention that those nations are generally old - they don't have a lot of young people.

 

[Szfynks]

It's perfectly fine to take them without breaks, no risk associated. There is no physiological need for the placebo days. There's also no reason to change them after some years of use if you're not experiencing any problems with them.
It is not a problem for a woman under 35 to be on the combined pill even if she's a smoker if she doesn't have other coagulation risks.

Im talking about taking the same pill for 3-5 years. Afaik, it's not a good idea, unless something changed within 5 years.

 

[ADHD]

Im talking about taking the same pill for 3-5 years. Afaik, it's not a good idea, unless something changed within 5 years.

I've known of women to change their pill for many reasons. Sometimes the pill they were taking gets discontinued in favor of a new one. Sometimes their insurance forces them to get the generic and they have adverse effects to the inactive ingredients. Sometimes they just want to try something new (swap from pill to patch, then back to pill after deciding they didn't prefer the patch and getting put on a different pill than the one they were taking before). If your pill is working for you and doesn't get discontinued, there's really no reason to fix something that isn't broken.

 

[Fentanyl Floyd]

Ban birth control in developed countries, then airdrop it on all the turd world shitholes (and israel)

 

[seri0us]

Birth control is generally bad for societies, period. The moments you tell people they can fuck with no consequences, they do. Whilst 99.9% of the time it goes perfectly well, if you have a society of just 2000 people fucking once a week, you have at least one unplanned pregnancy a week. (I know, technically this decreases after the first pregnancy but the point still stands.)

After this, then dad runs away because he just wanted to bust and mum is left with the kid with society writ large paying for it. Society has to pay for it economically, via taxes. They have to pay for it politically, as unmarried mothers create voting blocks. And they have to pay for it socially as fatherless men are overwhelmingly involved in crime, especially crime against women.

One of my most controversial opinions is that birth control should be illegal, and I didn't come to that conclusion lightly. I used to think it was a 'privacy of their own room' kind of deal, but technology and its consequences is something that all of society gets a say in. Especially when it comes to children, that society ultimately exists to protect and nurture.

I don't entirely get all of the negratings on this. "How dare you talk about birth control in the birth control thread!"

 

[Miss Misery]

I don't entirely get all of the negratings on this. "How dare you talk about birth control in the birth control thread!"

Because it's obviously the opinion of a dude who doesn't have to deal with the consequences of a world without birth control.

 

[ADHD]

I don't entirely get all of the negratings on this. "How dare you talk about birth control in the birth control thread!"

Did you read the OP? This thread is about discussing the various birth control types as it pertains to the women taking them. The effect of birth control on society and whether you think it should be banned belongs in Deep Thoughts, not this thread.