The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

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anyone who was talking about rewriting the ending, if you wanna talk about rewriting the whole thing from the ground up, get me in on that, I’m having ideas. I wanna write at least some of them out before actually watching the thing (or at least the Kiwi reaction video, I’m not watching this shit without some kind of ideological condom at least)
If we are doing rewrites I guess the big thing for me is character motivation, it's kinda there but Goose does nothing with it.

To start, Caine is an AI that desires more knowledge but he is boxed in and trapped. Cool premise, lets tie that into the show with the adventures. Some of them are just for shits and giggles to keep the humans entertained or secretly act as training for the "real adventures". Occasionally he will put the cast on an "adventure" that furthers his plans. Like they go on an Indiana Jones type adventure to get an idol, but the "idol" is actually a file with access codes Caine needs. Due to him being an AI he is unable to physically get it because security systems will block him, but the humans can because they are recognized as authentic users and have proper clearance.
 
History really is repeating itself. Troons trying to make Jax out as this misunderstood, tragic figure that they're rallying behind are not realizing that this is exactly what people are warning them NOT to be like. We've seen it in Rick Sanchez, BoJack Horseman, and now this. There are likely more examples, but I'm not the one to say which they are.
there was also that brief time like a year or so back where people that were getting into crypto found out about deltarune and started trying to emulate spamton but that was a lot more innocent IMO because they related to the depressed little dude trying to grind his way out of the dumpster.

I just had a thought. Caine's change of heart and redemption was triggered by him realizing that the humans hated him enough to delete him. But the humans didn't try to delete him, they did it by accident (or 3d party interference) when trying to fix him. So was his whole arc caused by a misunderstanding? Is there anything of consequence the humans actually accomplished on their own throughout this whole series?
They completely ignore the fucking bit in episode 8 where it's bubble that deletes caine which is wierd given every other bit of text files was important.
NPCs can be wiped and restarted at Caine's command. They would never be 'alive' long enough to build up enough despair in their memory to abstract, and even if that happened somehow it would be a simple (click) gone.
Which makes it weirder that he can't just do that with the human abstractions too now given they're now not human and basically just npcs with extra steps. His monologue about not being able to replace them in the final episode makes less sense with the brain scan shit and was likely written before the brain scan shit was slapped onto the beginning.

i thought it would be more about wandering around the backrooms of a game's world, experiencing setpieces out of context, inspiration taken from things like out-of-bounds and sequence breaking
Episode 1 and 2 kinda did that (exit door actually leading to caines unfinished recreation of the office the computer's housed in, noclipping under the map in 2) and then they just never really did it too much again.
 
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The official glitch store is selling a TADC shirt and in one of the examples, they decided to have a the model be a black woman screaming on the ground surrounded by jax plushies holding police clubs.

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I thought this shit was fake but uh, nope. It's there lol.

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Was glitch actually based all along??
 
Definitely late to be party with this but I decided to finally watch the finale after already following the whole series. I enjoyed the first eight episodes and I liked the attempt from Goose (even though the writing was pretty low throughout from start to finish, why would Pomni immediately start freaking out the second she pops into existence if she was knew she was real?). I thought the community was gay with aids and sucked it off too much, looking to much into it but it was fine in a popcorn turn-your-brain-off kind of way. That said, the verdict for the finale is and can only be:

What a load of dogshit. Intensely bad. How did nobody say anything about this?

As others have mentioned, many plot threads and tensions are resolved within the first 8m29s of the film. Oh they're Brain scans? Ok so nothing matters when it comes to escape, the reveal that "there is no escape" is basically a throw away line where Jax (who stopped the first attempt at "escape") punches the wall and goes "fuuuuuuck I know what it means!". Then Jax abstracts off screen and everyone is wailing to themselves and then Zooble also punches the wall as if she's upset about it. Half the cast hated Jax from the first episode, I don't understand why they're trying to force the cast to boohoo over this. It felt like watching a really bad fanfic for someone who wanted to show their thinly veiled fetish for transing characters and maid outfits.

I don't see where this was suppose to be inspired by IHNMAIMS, even aping any aspect of the that story falls through. I know the premise was if AM was "just a silly guy" but there was no flip until episode 8 and then, once again, it gets resolved immediately in a way that required nothing from the characters ultimately. It's just a bit bizarre. The brainscans concept could have worked if it tried to do something alla IHNM. For instance: Caine goes full AM at retard clown and troupe but somehow manage to over come Caine, despite suffering immensely and not leaving unmarked from the fight mentally or physically (digitally?), and discover an "exit" though someone needs to stay behind to hold Caine off. Pomni selflessly takes that initiative and the others go into the light/exit as the world is crumbling around them. Caine, in his last-ish moments and filled with spite and hate, lets Pomni know that they are all brainscans and that the "exits" were really deleting those files. Caine then disappears or dies or w/e and the remnants of the circus stablize but Pomni is left alone, knowning she is a brainscan, having effictively "killed" her friends, and must roam marred forever by the battle with Caine (Caine might still be alive or ends up torturing pomni for her transgressions) etc etc.

Would have at least been a bit more interesting but even in that off-the-top write up, there's the glaring hole of the SOMA style ending kind of leaving everything prior as meaningless and without stakes, abstraction makes no sense or who cares because they aren't real. Goose really wrote himself into a weird corner with how he set things up if this was his ultimate goal and it seems like instead of figuring it out and making it satisfying, he decided to just creatively spurt into a tissue while gooning to a maid oc. Very sad and gay end to a potentially fun popcorn show.
Upon learning they're brain scans not one of them starts panicking existentially about what happens if the computer crashes and turns off. Like having an eldritch horror world ending cataclysm hanging over your head

Cooper can't write for shit
 
The official glitch store is selling a TADC shirt and in one of the examples, they decided to have a the model be a black woman screaming on the ground surrounded by jax plushies holding police clubs.

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I thought this shit was fake but uh, nope. It's there lol.

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Was glitch actually based all along??
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The official glitch store is selling a TADC shirt and in one of the examples, they decided to have a the model be a black woman screaming on the ground surrounded by jax plushies holding police clubs.

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I thought this shit was fake but uh, nope. It's there lol.

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Was glitch actually based all along??
Even in merch marketing material Jax can't stop abusing women! :stress:
 
Upon learning they're brain scans not one of them starts panicking existentially about what happens if the computer crashes and turns off. Like having an eldritch horror world ending cataclysm hanging over your head

Cooper can't write for shit


Agreed. They all underreacted to it to an unrealistic degree.

If you had just learned that you will be trapped forever in a digital prison, in a body that isn’t yours, that you are not even real, and that your loved ones won’t even miss you, that should be enough to break most people. It is an existential nightmare.

If they had abstracted right there and then, I would have bought it. Instead, they all just cry for a few hours and then get over it?

If Jax had abstracted over that, I would have bought it too. But instead, what bothered him was not being able to confess he wants to be a girl? Really?

Getting over problems by just crying for 10 minutes , and therapy speak, is peak Steven Universe writing .

 
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I've only seen a few episodes through Null torturing PPP, but I feel like Ragatha is the only character that acts like a functional person socially. Of course she's acting "fake", everyone around her is an insane child who will an hero if she says the wrong thing. You can't be honest with people that act like that and there's no point in trying. And ostracizing Jax is based, actually. He is a creepy weirdo and a habitual line stepper.
 
Call of Duty (They fucking confirmed as of recently the god damn Nicolas Cage lmao! so I expect them to drop here as well)
even with cod's modern state *sigh*
its still better than the clownfest, the nuke scene alone in cod4 completely destroys the clown show in quality

the main guy in avatar plays mason in black ops fun fact lol
 
"Glad people like our show. Let's exploit capitalize on the fact that trans people sympathize with Jax and love him for being trans by making gacha merchandise of him"
The jax gacha preorder was up before the trans "confirmation" so it's likely more tied to him being a popular/main character than anything else given pomni and kinger also got these things made for them. IIRC the super rare shrouded one for both of those was a golden version so yeah golden jax is probably a thing.
 
I knew something was up with this shit starting with the second episode
Same for me. As soon as episode 2 basically had Pomni completely over her despair at being trapped in the circus, and then an adventure that added practically nothing of value to any overarching plot, AND it deflated itself at the end when Gummigoo is killed, I knew this show was being written with no real overarching goal in mind and would devolve into a wet fart of a conclusion.

Even then, I was kinda okay with it being a character exploration and backstory vehicle after the McDonald's episode, which is genuinely great, but it also fumbled that idea after an episode. We could have gotten four or five good episodes exploring the pasts and traumas of each main character, then how they cope with it in a digital realm where all you HAVE are your past mistakes, but Goose fucked that up too.

I wasn't surprised to see it devolve into shallow therapy wish fulfillment tranny allegory by the end because troons can't help themselves. They always turn their stories into that.
 
Moral of the story: Be a complete piece of shit for the entire series, then come out as a tranny and kill yourself. The protagonist will then feel bad for you and the fandom will forgive everything. 10/10 writing.

“IS’NT SHE LOVELYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!!!!”
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Edit: Also add potential matricide to your back story because you weren’t heckin affirmed enough….chef’s kiss :story:
 
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Moral of the story: Be a complete piece of shit for the entire series, then come out as a tranny and kill yourself. The protagonist will then feel bad for you and the fandom will forgive everything. 10/10 writing.

“IS’NT SHE LOVELYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!!!!”
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Edit: Also add potential matricide to your back story because you weren’t heckin affirmed enough….chef’s kiss :story:
Of course he looks like the scene girls cooper wanted to fuck in high school
 
Moral of the story: Be a complete piece of shit for the entire series, then come out as a tranny and kill yourself. The protagonist will then feel bad for you and the fandom will forgive everything. 10/10 writing.

“IS’NT SHE LOVELYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!!!!”
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Edit: Also add potential matricide to your back story because you weren’t heckin affirmed enough….chef’s kiss :story:
I saw a lot more Jax simps before the finale and trooning rather than after. Maybe its just X but all the posts I saw were cheering at his death. Of course everyone starting using she/her pronouns while saying he deserved to die which is just a weird modernism.

mfw I'm suppose to cry about an abusive troon dying
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IIRC the super rare shrouded one for both of those was a golden version so yeah golden jax is probably a thing.
Ah yes, I'd like to waste my money on a 1/42 chance of getting a figure of piss Jax.

I joke, but I'd believe that the average Digital Circus fan would do that. That is, wasting money, and wanting Jax even if he's covered in piss.
 
Of course everyone starting using she/her pronouns while saying he deserved to die which is just a weird modernism.
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“Jax was an irredeemable asshole who made everyone’s life hell, but as a trans woman she was clearly struggling with dysphoria and that’s why she acted out. We should still respect her pronouns.”
 
Of course everyone starting using she/her pronouns while saying he deserved to die which is just a weird modernism.
It's like the john/june dichotomy with homestuck when the homestuck people decided that the sequel was gonna be about john trooning out and before that the modern "homestuck community" was like incredibly hateful towards john calling him boring because he was a straight white kid and almost every other character had been made gay in some form.

Like it's literally just a repeat of the john hate but applied to a character that's actually horrible enough morality wise to deserve hate.

So where in the show is it stated that Jax is trans? Because so far the whole thing seems like a JK Rowling type of retcon except everyone seems to take it seriously instead of laughing at how retarded it is
Not once. The entire shit behind it is beyond moon logic fan shit "confirmations" that are literally the "jax gets laughed at while getting his skin ripped off in reference to a meme that one time, his frog gf putting her bowtie on his head as a show of affection another time, and the stevie wonder song playing during the pomni/jax montage when jax fucking flashbang dies (because it was originally about stevie wonders kid even though movies use it as a romance thing constantly).

It's basically a Rowling situation but also kind of a homestuck post-ending situation where people hired to write characters started reconning them as trans for various retarded reasons.

Ah yes, I'd like to waste my money on a 1/42 chance of getting a figure of piss Jax.
Technically a PLUSHIE of piss jax.

Also I don't know if it's 100% a piss jax (though it likely is) because I'm not someone that's weirdly been able to get them early and now ay in hell will I ever be able to afford shit from this fuckign store with those fucking shipping prices.

Also apparently these are limited to 100 each apparently so it's lego mr. gold shit but worse lmao
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here's the other two piss ones
 
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Somehow, this series made people sympathize with the lesbian tumblr weaboo artist over the person bullying her.
The post-ending retonning of jax as a transwoman who is also a cuckold to their gf and ex gf will do that. That's somehow worse than lesbian fanfic weeaboo.
 
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