The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

Wouldn't having to face his mom after killing her (?) be a pretty big fear of his, bigger than being laughed at for being a tranny/faggot/crossdresser or whatever?
It is Jax's friends laughing at him for who he is on the inside (Pomni and the other's that abstracted). I think Goose had the following personal issues he wanted addressed with each character:
Jax = Found Family/Accepting yourself
Ragatha = Mommy Issues
Zooble = Body Dysphoria

I guess at some point he changed gears, sidelined Ragatha, gave Jax the mommy issues theme and tossed out accepting yourself because Jax fucking kills abstracts himself. Found Family could have been shifted over to Zooble and Gangle because they form a relationship and get close despite how fucked up physically and emotionally they are.
 
It is Jax's friends laughing at him for who he is on the inside (Pomni and the other's that abstracted). I think Goose had the following personal issues he wanted addressed with each character:
Jax = Found Family/Accepting yourself
Ragatha = Mommy Issues
Zooble = Body Dysphoria

I guess at some point he changed gears, sidelined Ragatha, gave Jax the mommy issues theme and tossed out accepting yourself because Jax fucking kills abstracts himself. Found Family could have been shifted over to Zooble and Gangle because they form a relationship and get close despite how fucked up physically and emotionally they are.
I guess you could say Jax's nightmare sequence was kept different from Ragatha's for the sake of variety, but if his backstory was going to be this big question mark that would be answered in the finale, they may as well have not given him a nightmare sequence at all and it wouldn't have changed the story much overall.

I'd probably add being unable to achieve your dreams and having to grin and bear it leading a mundane existence (and I guess being in physical pain from the injuries she sustained from her accident) for Gangle, but that point is probably moot now given the show's success lmao.

On Cooper possibly changing gears...maybe the mommy issues weren't what he had in mind for Jax specifically, but they do help paint his crashout at the end of episode 7 in a different light. Everyone wants to leave the circus still thinking there's an escape, but then Jax snaps and presses the red button after realizing...he has nothing to come back to. Since now we know they're all just brain scans their memories of their IRL selves are frozen in the moment, so he couldn't have possibly known Leeroy would go on to live a better life; for all he knew, he was still a literal bum on the run from the cops.

Honestly, though, prior to the finale I never really cared that much to know the nitty-gritty of Jax's life before the circus. I would have been fine with just the Breaking Bad premise as his joke backstory. I understood him as just this big wisecracking dickhead who caused trouble for the others for the lulz and that was that. Before the brain scan reveal I envisioned the finale as something like him sacrificing himself via abstraction if it meant helping the rest of the cast escape as a way to both finally hold him to account for the shit he pulled throughout the series as well as redeem him (see, he really does care). But Cooper needed to have his therapy seshes...

Something something don't ask questions something something consoom product.
 
But that still isn't a good in-universe explanation for why Jax's nightmare is so vague and "symbolic". Shouldn't nightmares in general, whether they're thought up by Caine or subconsciously by the characters living them, be very specific and direct about the fears they're dealing with anyway?

Like you said, Goose has bad writer syndrome and wanted the mom talk scene to be big finale reveal whatever the cost. He couldn't reveal it earlier, even if it would've made way more sense. So he has to put this vague "my friends laugh at me" (which literally never happened, even from Jax's perception, nor relate to his main trauma) nightmare and not mention the mom.

Kinger didn't get this issue, Caine actually brings up his dead wife (through possessed pomni) and episode 3 tells you all dead wife trauma.

A good story (like the ihnmaims game) would start with trauma and built on it, not have it be a dramatic reveal and end it.

On Cooper possibly changing gears...maybe the mommy issues weren't what he had in mind for Jax specifically, but they do help paint his crashout at the end of episode 7 in a different light. Everyone wants to leave the circus still thinking there's an escape, but then Jax snaps and presses the red button after realizing...he has nothing to come back to. Since now we know they're all just brain scans their memories of their IRL selves are frozen in the moment, so he couldn't have possibly known Leeroy would go on to live a better life; for all he knew, he was still a literal bum on the run from the cops.

Honestly, though, prior to the finale I never really cared that much to know the nitty-gritty of Jax's life before the circus. I would have been fine with just the Breaking Bad premise as his joke backstory. I understood him as just this big wisecracking dickhead who caused trouble for the others for the lulz and that was that. Before the brain scan reveal I envisioned the finale as something like him sacrificing himself via abstraction if it meant helping the rest of the cast escape as a way to both finally hold him to account for the shit he pulled throughout the series as well as redeem him (see, he really does care). But Cooper needed to have his therapy seshes...

I don't think anyone expected this to be "The Jax trauma show" but in hindsight that's kinda what it lead to. The Amazing Digital Circus was making a funny jerk who looks shallow evil, then reveal he is deep and troubled cause he lost friends, then reveal the trauma he did an unforgivable thing and have him die to make you feel conflicted between sad and angry.

Like, i even went looking a bit about jax mom and found some posts that really make you think.

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Everyone except pomni exists to be 1/4 of Jax's trauma. He has ragatha's mommy issues, gangle's depression, zooble's dysphoria and an abstracted friend/lover like kinger, while being portrayed as more severe and affected. Pomni was just a clown while Jax was the entire circus.

I also found this gem


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Everyone called him schizo too but this theorist beat goose :stress:
 
Can someone make an AI generated episode of this show and make it about a cool adventure where they have to lynch niggers or something, then convince Josh that it's a real episode and get him to react to it blind with PPP? I think this is doable. We'll just pretend it was a Patreon exclusive. (let's face it, AI could copy this show's style to the point of being indistinguishable)
 
Can someone make an AI generated episode of this show and make it about a cool adventure where they have to lynch niggers or something, then convince Josh that it's a real episode and get him to react to it blind with PPP? I think this is doable. We'll just pretend it was a Patreon exclusive. (let's face it, AI could copy this show's style to the point of being indistinguishable)
AI generated episode where Jax explains the evils of Blackrock to the rest of the gang, and at first they're skeptical but he slowly sways them.

Just sneak it in there for the kids. "Stealth redpill" if you wanna put it in a gay way.

One of the issues TADC has is that it subconsciously demonizes and denies masculinity. The character that was more masculine it’s also a man child asshole.
I'd argue a bit, but not entirely. When Kinger is lucid, he's very fatherly and nurturing, and he has a passion for computer design and building things. All positive masculine traits.

Jax is more like a "toxic" masculine character but you can tell a lot of his problems come from not having a strong male role model in his life. The way he talks about Ragatha/his mother, his primary problem with her is he feels offput by how coddling and nurturing she acts. It doesn't make sense until you realize there's an aspect of him that feels unfulfilled. Combine that with the fact that his mother apparently complained he "wasn't manly enough" and you start to get a clear picture: he's insecure about his masculinity because nobody taught him what it really means to be a man in a healthy way.

Of course, I could just be seeing what's already in my head and in my heart, but that's how I read it.
 
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Of course, I could just be seeing what's already in my head and in my heart, but that's how I read it.
I ended up deleting that because I felt I didn’t explain my self well. I might elaborate better later.

But it all boils down to a clear imbalance towards overtly emotional therapy like solutions over the “masculine”. Talking about feelings, hugs and cuddling take priority over being proactive and taking responsibility.
 
you can do good therapy talk too i.e the sopranos but the problem is that tony soprano is a deeply intresting character and clussy and friends arent
The Sopranos also notably portrayed the therapy in a far less positive light because in the end it was strongly implied that all it did was make the patient a far more effective sociopath. It was also more compelling due to the therapy sessions being part of their own semi-sequestered plot thread with significant thematic payoffs. The breathing room also felt far more appropriate given how dark and graphically violent the show itself was. Taking the time "to process things" made perfect sense from a narrative standpoint in that context. Not so much in a toothless wacky animation full of bright colors and brainrot.
Then again, maybe they should take inspiration from it. Just run with it for the entirety of season 2 and call it They All Get Guns 2: The Amazing Digital Mafia.
 
Can someone make an AI generated episode of this show and make it about a cool adventure where they have to lynch niggers or something, then convince Josh that it's a real episode and get him to react to it blind with PPP? I think this is doable. We'll just pretend it was a Patreon exclusive. (let's face it, AI could copy this show's style to the point of being indistinguishable)
AI generated episode where Jax explains the evils of Blackrock to the rest of the gang, and at first they're skeptical but he slowly sways them.
Ai is too incompetent. Just make some shit in source filmmaker/gmod/blender using the near 1 to 1 models people made of the characters with maybe some RVC tts or voice changer for the audio
 
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Ai is too incompetent. Just make some shit ins source filmmaker/gmod/blender using the near 1 to 1 models people made of the characters with maybe some RVC tts or voice changer for the audio
True. The Will Stancil Show is funny but the constant AI screwups start to become more bothersome than funny after a while. Especially all the rapid camera cuts.
 
Everyone except pomni exists to be 1/4 of Jax's trauma. He has ragatha's mommy issues, gangle's depression, zooble's dysphoria and an abstracted friend/lover like kinger, while being portrayed as more severe and affected. Pomni was just a clown while Jax was the entire circus.
That's a really succinct summary of it all. Jax was the entire circus, everyone was just his monkey.

Ribbit was really done dirty. She had established relationships before Jax but instead self-destructed over some trash boy when she could have just either pressed on Kaufmo to team up with her or go with Ragatha. There's really no reason she should have taken this one guy ghosting her that hard, it's not like she didn't have other friends to turn to.

Everyone else was just set dressing to Jax. Usually, I don't get into the whole "Fridging" thing, but Ribbit existed only so Jax could grieve over her death, which he also directly caused.

Man, maybe not his mom, but you think instead of the friends he drove to suicide laughing at him from beyond the grave they would be condemning him as a murderer.

Jax the triple murderer, his greatest concern is that his victims think he's a loser.
 
Might as well share my theater experience:
-picked the lattermost hour possible so I could ensure that I could make it. When I walked inside, I saw some people leaving the previous viewing (unsure if it was TADC), they said "Absolute Cinema" while possibly crying.
-other audience members included one girl with a short haircut, one girl with green hair, a dad with his <10 year old son, and nerdy looking people.
-while I was waiting for the room to open, I overheard people discussing a clip of someone orgasming over a clip of Jax or something slly like that.
-I sat near the balcony, while everyone else was congregated near the center of the room.
-Amazingly enough, I heard nobody say anything during the whole runtime. No singing or exclamations.
-After it was over, I noticed that a couple people brought their small Jax and Pomni plushies.
Overall, nothing unpleasant. People were well-behaved. The Iron Lung premiere was noisier by comparison. Am I lucky or what?
 
I'd argue a bit, but not entirely. When Kinger is lucid, he's very fatherly and nurturing, and he has a passion for computer design and building things. All positive masculine traits.

Jax is more like a "toxic" masculine character but you can tell a lot of his problems come from not having a strong male role model in his life. The way he talks about Ragatha/his mother, his primary problem with her is he feels offput by how coddling and nurturing she acts. It doesn't make sense until you realize there's an aspect of him that feels unfulfilled. Combine that with the fact that his mother apparently complained he "wasn't manly enough" and you start to get a clear picture: he's insecure about his masculinity because nobody taught him what it really means to be a man in a healthy way.
Oh lol, that would be agreeing with the typical conservative who says, "Without a dad, you're a failure." But if Jax's father disappears from their lives because of some problem, and as a result, Jax is a terrible person to everyone, and it's like the gay person who's scandalized about having to "come out of the closet," well, if they were Islamists, I'd understand.

They'd be talking about how bad fatherhood itself creates terrible people. I mean, Kingsler, when he's sane, is the model father they wish they had, who in a few years would ironically represent a figure contrary to feminist ideas.
Might as well share my theater experience:
-picked the lattermost hour possible so I could ensure that I could make it. When I walked inside, I saw some people leaving the previous viewing (unsure if it was TADC), they said "Absolute Cinema" while possibly crying.
-other audience members included one girl with a short haircut, one girl with green hair, a dad with his <10 year old son, and nerdy looking people.
-while I was waiting for the room to open, I overheard people discussing a clip of someone orgasming over a clip of Jax or something slly like that.
-I sat near the balcony, while everyone else was congregated near the center of the room.
-Amazingly enough, I heard nobody say anything during the whole runtime. No singing or exclamations.
-After it was over, I noticed that a couple people brought their small Jax and Pomni plushies.
Overall, nothing unpleasant. People were well-behaved. The Iron Lung premiere was noisier by comparison. Am I lucky or what?
God, please don't let them show profanity or too much gore. It really bothers me that there were children in those theaters. I mean, all that childish content from Pony and Friends hurt the brand. I mean, the themes there are a kid on his way to becoming a trans woman who ambiguously killed his mother, two lesbians who end up having lesbian sex, people with intense traumas like Gangle almost getting hit by a truck. Censorship in children's media hasn't evolved well, apparently.
True. The Will Stancil Show is funny but the constant AI screwups start to become more bothersome than funny after a while. Especially all the rapid camera cuts.
God, any gullible person will swallow any crap animation that resembles Digital Circus to sensationalize the story and seek out more of the Pomni Universe to justify having spent a lot on merchandise.
 
It's frustrating when the finale leaves you with way more questions than answers and the only genuine answer that you can give to any of them is:
Maybe, but at the same time people get too hung up on the details.

I watched Ronin again recently, and there are still people who get mad that they never explain what's in the case. There's a lot of unanswered questions in that movie, but that's the point, or not the point. Same with the 80s version of Total Recall.

Overall, nothing unpleasant. People were well-behaved. The Iron Lung premiere was noisier by comparison. Am I lucky or what?
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the norm tbh. A lot of the attempts at "raids" or posting the bad behaviour of the audience comes off as, I don't know how to say it, desperate? It's always something like "here's a fat person with green trousers and a fedora. Typical TADC fan amirite!" while ignoring the dozens of other people who look like generic teens and nerds. It's like the demand for TADC fan cringe far outpaces the supply.
 
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