The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

I think the saddest thing about this whole ordeal is that I've read a whole lot of ideas and theories on the last episode that were way better concepts than what they actually ended up doing:
  1. Timeskip: A new human enters the circus years later and they explore the aftermath of what happened after everyone figured out how to conjure. Each character has erected their own little world. Because Caine no longer exists, the new person never lost their memories and is able to inform the rest of the circus members about what the circus actually is -> Continue the concept from there.
Interesting ideas. Especially that one.

The problem though is the show needed an ending. This felt like a decent way to wrap it up. It didn't feel like a cash grab reseting the status quo, but it also didn't slam the "kill everybody forever" button either.

I saw Backrooms immediately afterwards, and the difference was noticeable.

When I saw it, the place was packed. The whole cinema was busy. Turns out TADC and the Backrooms were why.


Sorry if I missed it, but the big problem with SOMA is that it doesn't trust the audience, the twist is obvious, the character is dumb, and yet the game expects you to be shocked. In SOMA, it beats you over the head with the idea that it's COPY and paste, not transferring bodies. The big ending twist, the main character transport into utopia leaving a copy to slowly die alone at the bottom of the ocean. OMG it was copy and paste the whole time!
 
could have been worse, could definitely have been better

it feels like they chickened out of doing an actual finale of the series and more to give closure to the jax character to the detriment of everyone else which felt very unnecessary and i would have much rather they fleshed out the caine subplot and them adjusting to the empty circus

the whole irl thing at the end was super cringe lmao the gangle character overacting hard as fuck really just fell flat

it was still fun going to the movies for it and i hope this does have that intended effect of sparking interest for other indie shit at the cinema (especially gaslight district which is vastly superior to this) but i'm not really holding my breath considering that attendance was not that great and can just tell cinemas "viral shit outside the studios isn't gonna make you any real money like backrooms is doing right now"

i also went to a neighboring town by car to see it to avoid going to the shitty theatre at my town which feels like a kick in the nuts with those fucking gas prices god DAMN it

all in all it's troonslop that manages to get into 'watchable' territory but that's not enough at all for the hype surrounding it and i don't think gooseworx is gonna be the big name he expects to be especially after this
 
Finale was interesting to say the least. Certainly came out of left field. The twist that they were more or less copies of the real people was weird.

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ToonHive doing their usual rounds of glazing
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Also the main Glitch account reposted this
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I love that they chose to repost something from their Brazil account specifically. It's almost like the Portugese version leaked early and they wanted to gloat about how it didn't affect how many people showed up to the premiere or something
 
I went to the cinema to people watch. Rewatching episode 8 & 9 were a lot more boring than I expected, but the crowd made up for it.
  • There were, unsurprisingly, a lot of very fat people
  • There were also, unsurprisingly, a lot of obese dangerhair they/thems
  • No one smelled bad as far as I could tell from where I sat
  • A large portion of the audience were college aged, some 30s, but also quite a few normie parents with small children
  • I had a really good seat for people watching. I sat right behind the disability seating where a 400 pound man sat in an extra large chair. He was jovial, so I felt happy for him that he got out to this event. He looked like he didn't get out much. On one side of me was a father with his two young children. The father was a normal person and his response to the crowd, plus his confused questions to his children were priceless
  • When the movie started, the crowd was weirdly overly animated. It went like:
    • Animated fish mentions that Caine died. Audience goes into hysterics laughing before falling silent for the next phrase.
    • Fish: "I was once declared dead for four minutes." Audience falls into hysterics again, again falling silent at the right time for the next phrase. It was obvious most of the crowd had already seen the leaks.
    • Fish: "No one was waiting for me." Audience screams in laughter
    • Fish: "It was all dark. There was nothing afterwards." Audience cheers, claps, and continues with its hysterical laughter
    • Fish: "I think God doesn't want me" More hysterical laughter
    • Fish: "I don't know what I did." more hysteri- you get the point
    • It was weird, overly dramatic, and like the audience was forcing itself to be hyped up. When I first saw that scene it was as funny as a "heh" moment. Not constant, continual, hysterical laughter after every single sentence
    • The normal guy with the two kids looked over at me with a bewildered look on his face. I just shrug at him and he turns back to look around at the crowd, wondering what's going on.
  • The audience was very animated, which did make it fun. The first few minutes into episode 8 were people screaming random things. I was disappointed when the theater got upset at this eventually and tried to desperately shush people. One guy yelled out "SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
  • There was an unrestrained mega Caine fangirl who sat right behind me. She refused to shut the fuck up. Every single time Caine was on the screen, she would scream, "MY HUSBAND!!!!! MARRY ME, CAINE!!!!!! OH MY GOD HE'S SO FINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO HAVE HIS BABIES!!!!!! LOOK AT THAT SEXY HUNK OF A MAN" It cracked me up.
  • Every time Jax was on the screen, everyone would scream, "SHUT UP, JAX!" "NO ONE LIKES YOU!!" "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" "WE HATE YOU!!!!" "YOU SUCK!!!" "DIE!!!!!!!!" Again, the crowd obviously saw the leaks and had some time to process what was about to happen and they were making a joke about it. That made it fun.
  • When Pomni brings out the gun to shoot the lights after Jax abstracts, the audience roars into cheers, "YEAAAAH KILL HIM!!!" "FUCK HIM UP, POMNI!!!!!!!" "NO DON'T SHOOT THE LIGHTS! SHOOT JAX!!!"
  • The normie guy next to me was bored through most of the film. He was constantly staring at his phone, scrolling, texting, and would leave the theater every 15 minutes to, I assume, make phone calls. One of the times he left was right before Jax strangled Pomni. His young daughter and little son looked terrified, covering their mouths then covering their eyes, turning away, and making distraught whimpering and sobbing noises. Well, they're going to be traumatized for a while.
  • Normie guy comes back during the Ribbit flashback and it's the only time he looks interested in the movie and doesn't check his phone. When Jax is talking about possibly killing his mom, the guy sits up straight, leans forward a little, and stares at his children. He tells them several things softly. I can't hear it. I think he's checking up on them because what's on the screen is disturbing. Just wait until your kids tell you about the strangling scene later, my dude.
  • Normie guy to his children several times during the movie: "This is weird. What is going on?"
  • During the credits, the audience explodes into cheers and clapping. They then start screaming the names of every character shown on the screen at any given time.
  • They go absolutely nuts when the new merch is shown. They especially like the Pomni popcorn bucket head for some reason. Whenever Jax merch is on screen, there's more "I'M GLAD YOU'RE DEAD!!!" "BOOOOO!" "ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!"
    • Normie dad during this time sat up straight, looked around the theater in bewilderment, behind him, in front of him, to the sides, with his mouth agape as if he had no idea what to think about this
  • Bonus: At the end when everyone was leaving the theater, one of the people from my showing ran through the front where the popcorn line was and shouted to spoil the next group there to see the movie, "I CAN'T BELIEVE JAX ABSTRACTED AND DIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!" then ran back out of the theater.
Overall a fun experience. The movie sucked, but the audience was great!
 
I feel as though people were expecting a totally horrific shitshow, however considering the movie leaked online, it may have staved off the most retarded and spergy people from going outside and viewing the movie. The stories feel they pale in comparison to the likes of the Minecraft movie, however nonetheless it is something that is "watchable". I would like to see what the metrics are for profits because the pre-paid ticket sales and projections on how much it will make probably only at most breaks even for Glitch.

Also, on opening day, the cinema's themselves are not totally sold out either (in their home country of where the studio is no less). Not too sure if that should be an indicator but the most I have seen is cinema's 80% full to less than 40% full.
 
I feel as though people were expecting a totally horrific shitshow, however considering the movie leaked online, it may have staved off the most retarded and spergy people from going outside and viewing the movie. The stories feel they pale in comparison to the likes of the Minecraft movie, however nonetheless it is something that is "watchable". I would like to see what the metrics are for profits because the pre-paid ticket sales and projections on how much it will make probably only at most breaks even for Glitch.

Also, on opening day, the cinema's themselves are not totally sold out either (in their home country of where the studio is no less). Not too sure if that should be an indicator but the most I have seen is cinema's 80% full to less than 40% full.
My theater was 100% full. For reference, it's the movie theater closest to the RedLetterMedia studios and it's not the most active.
 
Bonus: At the end when everyone was leaving the theater, one of the people from my showing ran through the front where the popcorn line was and shouted to spoil the next group there to see the movie, "I CAN'T BELIEVE JAX ABSTRACTED AND DIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!" then ran back out of the theater.
Glad to hear there are still Potterheads to keep the flame alive 🥲
SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE, ENJOY THE MOVIE!!! :lol:
 
Sorry if I missed it, but the big problem with SOMA is that it doesn't trust the audience, the twist is obvious, the character is dumb, and yet the game expects you to be shocked. In SOMA, it beats you over the head with the idea that it's COPY and paste, not transferring bodies. The big ending twist, the main character transport into utopia leaving a copy to slowly die alone at the bottom of the ocean. OMG it was copy and paste the whole time!
IIRC, SOMA is a little bit smarter than that. You are introduced to the idea of switching bodies when you take the lady out the robot and into the tool. There it is presented as a simple hot swap of computer chips and it is the same mind. When the player switches body she kind of misleads you because there is no way for the player to physically remove his chip and put it into another body. So she just copy and paste it and hopes he doesn't notice and player POV resumes in the new body and the character thinks there is some sort of continuation due to her coinflip explanation (which is a bad explanation to get him to calm down but makes sense to him since he "won" the coin toss). Then when you get to the arc and do another copy the POV stays with the old body and he gets confused and angry because he "lost" the coin flip (even though he never had a chance of winning the coin flip because she just lied to him to give him hope he himself could be saved on the arc).

In short, the girl was manipulating the protagonist to finish her life's work and give humanity a chance to fade away in virtual peace. Not as impactful as something like "would you kindly" because the player can catch on she is lying because that is not how digital copies work, but to our protagonist it makes sense from his pov.
 
I got so fucking lucky and had only like 10 other people in the theater, all absolutely quiet outside of a few chuckles at some scenes. Practically got to watch it in silence, one guy tried to sing during the musical bit but he quickly shut up when he realized how autistic he was being.

Shit was pretty good, glad I steered clear from all spoilers beyond Jax dying.
 
Even for a 46 yo rn the actor seems too young. But i think that post was supposedto be about them in current day after all bc kinger didnt even know he was a dad and 47 seems like a bit late to start.
Honestly, I kind of figured Kinger just never brought it up because the characters typically glossed over their backgrounds except for one point. Kinger already had wife to be sad about because she abstracted, since Mildenhall manor was teasing him and brought up theoretical children and the chessboard at his office had pawns, I thought it implied he was a 47 year old senior developer with 2 late high school/ early college aged kids. You know, so they don't have to really worry about their kids starving and being homeless without them if they belived they were whisked away to the digital world.

Although, realistically Kinger, Queenie and Scratch should all have been completely aware they were copies. They were testing out the copy program that makes brain copies for lulls and research. Why would they be surprised that it worked? Kinger when sane seemed to be aware that they were copies, so it's a huge plot hole that they weren't originally more... okay with it? It's like baking a cake and then being surprised it's not a turkey. It just doesn't make sense.
Either way, it didn't seem weird that Kinger could be aware he had children and that they were fine. You would think he'd be an experienced programmer to create life, but I guess he was a newbie fresh out of college one and is just hitting 47 now... but then his copy would have a brain of a man frozen at 29. I could kind of see Ragatha being just starting her job and still living with Mom so her being 30 and successful now makes sense. Jax was probably stunted at whatever age Goosewerx was when he came out as trans... so 16-18 in reality, and not so much 22. There's nothing that would cause their brainscans to mature like a biological brain would.

Anyhow, I saw it in theaters. There were a far amount of kids at my showing (it was also much emptier than it was listed to be). I don't think they liked it because it was dead quiet at the end. I think I heard one person say they were sad they didn't save their boy.

Honestly, I think it would have been better for the narrative to just save Jax for all that effort and screentime. It seems so masturbatory to spend that much runtime in a movie on a character that already dead and just stays dead. Plus, it almost seemed like Pomni's efforts might amount to something until the other characters just make her stop? Did they set the anti-abstraction landmines? Why were there anti-abstraction landmines? I mean we get novel half-abstracted designs as a figureset, this would have been the perfect setting and time to just do the Steven Universe healed corrupted gem thing. Then you could even repair the mindfiles of the previously abstracted with the memories of the revived, like a chain. End on the note of them having the potential to build a much wider simtown for mind files.

I agree with a comment someone said earlier that there should have been more set up. Where did Pomni even get the idea she could go inside an abstraction? Kinger didn't with his wife, he just had a last moment with her in the external world. It would have been more narratively satisfying if they brain stormed that... or had any hand in recovering Caine instead of him just deciding being deleted sucked and he would just come back to life.

If it was meant to be a flashback, it certainly didn't look like it, it looked like he revived Scratch for the sake of using his identity to get onto the internet.... which if he could do that why not just revive everyone now that we all know how to fix their emotional damage? Like an epic do over. They are all just sims you can reload.

I don't see how Gangle got a job at an art agency unless it was some sort of disability outreach. She draws like a grade schooler who got Christopher Hart's How to Anime.

Jax's confession to his Mom was probably transfeelings... but let's see how that worked out. Seems his real life self decided to perhaps be non-committal gender non conforming, but still be a guy and has a decent life now. Trans Jax commited suicide and died and regretting never telling his Mom he was sorry. I think this is an apology from Goosewerx to his Mom because she was right and he regrets what he did to himself... but it's too late. The most detrans trans allegory.
 
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I’m wondering what movie critics are going to give as a review for this.

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Cringe audience reviews. Imagine declaring that this was the single hand best movie you ever watched in your life. Troonslop of all things…
 
So for roughly the budget of one episode of the show ($1 million) they got $9 million right off the bat and they're probably gonna make at least $10-20 million, and they're beating out the Backrooms, which was such a success that it garnered mainstream attention.

Despite my personal grievances with the ending, I have to admit this is a really, really good thing for indie films and animation in general, and might even be the saving grace theaters have been looking for.

I think between this, Backrooms and Iron Lung, we're witnessing the rise of the YouTube Theatrical era. Which makes perfect sense, actually. Shit on the internet nowadays is way more famous than most stuff on TV or cinemas, and you have people all over the world getting famous from their bedrooms. You can make an "independent film" from anywhere in the world with a cellphone or source film maker, and it can still come out looking great.

But while this has been true for for the past 15 years or more, all the "important" people in show business have insisted you can't succeed or even be considered "real" media until you go to an incredibly inexpensive and absurdly overpopulated city on the ass end of the US and get molested by Harvey Weinstein, all so six levels of executive management can take the vague general concept of the movie you wanna make, "fix" it, turn it into a $250 million dollar bloated shitshow and make it a tax write-off when it inevitably becomes a massive box office bomb.

So, as much as I don't like the ending myself, I have to say this actually is an unmitigated W for film in general. I don't know if I'll live to see the Hollywood monopoly die, but when an indie studio can put out a movie and make a profit before it even fucking plays in a single theater, that's a damn good thing.

So you guys ready to do this all again when the Skibidi Toilet movie comes out?
 
So for roughly the budget of one episode of the show ($1 million) they got $9 million right off the bat and they're probably gonna make at least $10-20 million, and they're beating out the Backrooms, which was such a success that it garnered mainstream attention.

Despite my personal grievances with the ending, I have to admit this is a really, really good thing for indie films and animation in general, and might even be the saving grace theaters have been looking for.

I think between this, Backrooms and Iron Lung, we're witnessing the rise of the YouTube Theatrical era. Which makes perfect sense, actually. Shit on the internet nowadays is way more famous than most stuff on TV or cinemas, and you have people all over the world getting famous from their bedrooms. You can make an "independent film" from anywhere in the world with a cellphone or source film maker, and it can still come out looking great.

But while this has been true for for the past 15 years or more, all the "important" people in show business have insisted you can't succeed or even be considered "real" media until you go to an incredibly inexpensive and absurdly overpopulated city on the ass end of the US and get molested by Harvey Weinstein, all so six levels of executive management can take the vague general concept of the movie you wanna make, "fix" it, turn it into a $250 million dollar bloated shitshow and make it a tax write-off when it inevitably becomes a massive box office bomb.

So, as much as I don't like the ending myself, I have to say this actually is an unmitigated W for film in general. I don't know if I'll live to see the Hollywood monopoly die, but when an indie studio can put out a movie and make a profit before it even fucking plays in a single theater, that's a damn good thing.

So you guys ready to do this all again when the Skibidi Toilet movie comes out?
This just cements that indie animation means tranny therapy time with fetishes to groom your kids cuz now everyone is gonna copy digital circus even more than before
 
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