The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

[Nicholas II of Russia]

Since there are people in social media now that try to paint Goonerworx as this tiny widdle artist that never did anything wrong and that he never brought this stuff on himself. Let's do a recap to show on how part of this stuff was his own fault for trying way too hard to interact with the fandom. Upon other questionable shit he posted.

Cooper said verbatim that Jax is his selfinsert character.

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Okay, that doesn't sound too bad, but wait, what is this?

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Which makes this next tweet something more hilarious in hindisght. Jax hates women, huh? What could this mean.

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Then we take a look on his Tumblr with his Q&A.

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Then he made this tweet saying that if Shadman gets in trouble or gets banned, he would get in Shadman shoes and be edgier than him. He's talking about the guy that made extreme CSAM fanart, by the way. So, what did he mean by this?

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Could this possibly mean that this AGP tranny hates women? What a shocker.

 

[Nameless One]

Since there are people in social media now that try to paint Goonerworx as this tiny widdle artist that never did anything wrong and that he never brought this stuff on himself. Let's do a recap to show on how part of this stuff was his own fault for trying way too hard to interact with the fandom. Upon other questionable shit he posted.

Cooper said verbatim that Jax is his selfinsert character.

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Okay, that doesn't sound too bad, but wait, what is this?

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Which makes this next tweet something more hilarious in hindisght. Jax hates women, huh? What could this mean.

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Then we take a look on his Tumblr with his Q&A.

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Then he made this tweet saying that if Shadman gets in trouble or gets banned, he would get in Shadman shoes and be edgier than him. He's talking about the guy that made extreme CSAM fanart, by the way. So, what did he mean by this?


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Could this possibly mean that this AGP tranny hates women? What a shocker.

Not shocking. This man is one bad day away from becoming another deranged shadman, if he hasn't already under a pen name.

I hope he quits making art after this failure. I hope he reads this thread in anger and anguish. Make a fucking account here, cow out.

 

[Hayduraide]

I mean, Simon 2 could get back to him in time, you never know

Exactly! What else is Simon 3 going to do at the bottom of the ocean? Sit in the dark alone and twiddle his thumbs for the next hundred years waiting for his battery to die? I guess he could do that if he really wanted to, but trying to find a way back up is also a good way to spend your time.

Me as Simon 3: "I'm coming back for you, buddy! Wait for me, Simon 2!"

As Sarah Lindwall dies, the final words of the last human on earth is: "Don't let them die, okay? Send them out there. To the stars." Even as humanity dies, its spirit lives on. I love that about SOMA. You can view the plot as only dread and horror if you like, but you can also see sparks of hope in the horrorscape. Moments like that made the story enjoyably multilayered for me. In the darkness, there are stars.

Spoiler: Sorry I have to be silly for a moment

For fun, I'd like to make a SOMA mod where you can tell Sarah Lindwall if she lives, she can have the honor of joining your exclusive barbershop quartet. There'd be a 50% chance she says yes, and a 50% chance she asks you to unplug her faster. If she says yes, during the end credits, you hear two guys (Simon 2&3) and a girl (Sarah) sing in harmony "Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtag gaaaaaaaaal."

The main character, Pomni is as interesting as a somewhat happy looking brick. If the show focused on Jax since the start, like what it has done in the last 3 episodes, kind of, I feel it would have been WAY better.

There were so many opportunities to make Pomni a really interesting character. Pomni's forced smile teetering on the edge of insanity at the end of the first episode was so good. Where did that energy go?

The author could have leaned into the parallel of Pomni being obsessed with finding an exit and the looming threat that the last person who did that, Kaufmo, abstracted (instead of her insanity over exit doors being waved away in a throwaway line). It would have been interesting to have her obsessively look for exists during each adventure. Instead of her passively standing around with her eyeballs hanging out in episode 3 while standing before the choice of 2 doors, have her get excited at even the prospect of doors. Have her rip apart the walls with her bare hands The Yellow Wallpaper style at one point. Keep a strong motivation or desire burning in her character. ANY strong desire! She wants out, she used to explore abandoned buildings, so have her regularly explore the circus. She could have experience finding hidden doors or cellars due to exploring so many old houses, then conjuring crazier and crazier backrooms by accident. All the other characters have given up finding an exit and just endure Caine's adventures, but not Pomni. She'll never give up. Give her more spunk. Let her drive the plot more. Let her MAKE things happen instead of reacting to things happening to her. Let her get more and more frustrated and desperate as time goes on. Tease her nearly abstracting a few times and pulled back to sanity by the other characters. Maybe even have her abstract in the end trying to save her friends. She was the main character, she could have been so interesting. Give an emotionally charged reason why she explores abandoned buildings. She was looking for something specific, something to do with her or her family... but what? That could have been teased. But she ended up flatter than she could have been in favor of spending more of the emotional energy on Jax and his tragic backstory.

 

[Barony]

Since there are people in social media now that try to paint Goonerworx as this tiny widdle artist that never did anything wrong and that he never brought this stuff on himself. Let's do a recap to show on how part of this stuff was his own fault for trying way too hard to interact with the fandom. Upon other questionable shit he posted.

Cooper said verbatim that Jax is his selfinsert character.

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Okay, that doesn't sound too bad, but wait, what is this?

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Which makes this next tweet something more hilarious in hindisght. Jax hates women, huh? What could this mean.

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Then we take a look on his Tumblr with his Q&A.

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Then he made this tweet saying that if Shadman gets in trouble or gets banned, he would get in Shadman shoes and be edgier than him. He's talking about the guy that made extreme CSAM fanart, by the way. So, what did he mean by this?


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Could this possibly mean that this AGP tranny hates women? What a shocker.

We need a Goonworx dedicated thread someday

 

[crystal_pepsi]

Cooper said verbatim that Jax is his selfinsert character.

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Okay, that doesn't sound too bad, but wait, what is this?

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Which makes this next tweet something more hilarious in hindisght. Jax hates women, huh? What could this mean.

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Then we take a look on his Tumblr with his Q&A.

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I would have never given this show the time of day had I known about any of these posts, that is grotesquely self indulgent, there really was zero chance of this ever turning out good. It had people going for a while but at some point the actual point of this show had to rear it's ugly as fuck head. I had no clue this whole thing really was a glorified therapy session for himself until recently, this is not what fiction is supposed to be.

 

[Escaped Abortion]

“People don’t read anymore”

“I don’t have the money to make my own comic”

“My vision is for a cartoon”

These are all excuses I’ve heard and seen countless times. I think the biggest thing holding people back is their unwillingness to put money where their passion is. Sure you could make a comic and have it be your exact vision, but you’ll have to pay for an artist or editor if you can’t draw to comic spec and many people don’t want to do that. Or they can draw well enough to even animate themselves but they don’t want to do it in their spare time while having a job. A lot of these people want to get paid for their idea and then have other people do the heavy lifting while they “lead” the project.

And it’s primarily because they’re in it for fame and fortune. If you truly had the desire to create and tell stories and you truly wanted to follow your passions, you would make the time and money. It could take a long time, but you’d do it. No different as any other hobby. If you can afford to do things like drink alcohol, eat out, or play video games you can afford to pay an artist to make a comic. The irony too is a lot of studios including the big ones are more willing to work with you if you can produce a professional looking comic because it shows you have work ethic and a proof of concept.

This is also why I hate the comics gate people because comics are notoriously easy, and relatively cheap too. I’ve personally had 20 page comics made for around $1000, and gotten it done in less than a month.

God with AI now it's literally a few hundred bucks to make a cartoon, less if you want to go with a comic. You can even give it your own art to puppet around your characters from your script and roughs. It makes what could take years to decades alone take months. Maybe no one will care, but it's a great way to get your shitty ideas out there.

Like that one guy who commissioned that thirst video with Charlie for $50k. You could make that from a handful of storyboards in a week or two depending on how much editing and how you approach the storyboarding.

To your point, they wouldn't like to do this because the community they want attention from would probably burn them at the stake for the original sin of using AI.

 

[Mystery Spy]

And it’s primarily because they’re in it for fame and fortune. If you truly had the desire to create and tell stories and you truly wanted to follow your passions, you would make the time and money

Which is odd as I couldn't think of a worse way to become rich and famous than making a cartoon, even a huge successful one.

Sure SpongeBob made billions, but Viacom is the one that is keeping all the profits not Stephen Hillenburg when he was alive or his state.

I have no idea how much cartoon people earn, but none seem to be rich. At best they all seem to be middle class. Few cartoon creators are that well known outside the internet cartoon communities.

I could recognize only some big names like Seth or Butch Hartman.

 

[LiquidKid]

I have no idea how much cartoon people earn, but none seem to be rich. At best they all seem to be middle class. Few cartoon creators are that well known outside the internet cartoon communities.

I could recognize only some big names like Seth or Butch Hartman.

It really depends on how you sign your contract. If you’re the creator and maintain a level of ownership or royalty, you could make a ton of money should your show succeed. On the flipped side you could sign into a terrible deal and end up broke and unemployed like Raye Rodriguez. Butch and Seth did the former.

But in general, you’re really only gonna make a few hundred thousand at first, and that gets cut up by taxes, legal fees, agent fees etc, and your payment is also part of the show’s first season budget so if you take too much your show will suffer.

 

[unholysedation777]

A lot of these people want to get paid for their idea and then have other people do the heavy lifting while they “lead” the project.

I've known so many fucking people like this in my time in cartoon/indie circles back in the day, jesus you hit the nail right in the head with that one. Everyone thinks they have the next "big idea," everyone thinks they're gonna be the next big guy, and they end up spending more time on stupid meme animations and trying to get into the pants of bigger creators instead of actually making anything of value. They all have this vision of "someday I'll do something when the time is just right!" But that day never comes, and it never will.
It's more fun to daydream than actually put in the work. And if anything, this whole fiasco shows that maybe it's better to keep daydreaming for most of these emotionally unstable freaks because it's clear even if you did just pick one and give them a million dollars to fund their entire cartoon it's very unlikely it won't be a steaming pile of trash.

 

[Seafarer]

I honestly thought that Jax is supposed to represent the "chuds“ he is an asshole, misogynist, anti social and I would have said transphobe ( because of the whole dress thing and how much he hated it and I thought it was some kind of revenge fantasy for Nooseworx ). But NO Jax actually is a representation of Mr. Goonworx which has to be so telling about him as a person ( And maybe sucide announcement if we look at how Jax ended up ).

There is a very popular trope you often see wherein a bigoted character is secretly longing for the thing they profess to hate (homophobe being a closet gay, racist wanting to fuck non-white women, etc) so I imagine that plays into Jax’s characterization considering his many “trans-coded” moments throughout the show as well as the fact that he is apparently Goose’s self-insert. The chud-to-troon pipeline is a real thing especially among Goose’s specific age bracket.

Cooper said verbatim that Jax is his selfinsert character.

Trannies self-inserting into their own work is not a new or novel thing but it is interesting for a MtF troon’s self-insert to be a masculine (some might even say “toxically masculine”) character instead of an UwU anime girl or something. The series also has a clear “thirst” for the Jax character (they are obviously trying to develop him as some sort of sex symbol) which combined with the information that Jax is apparently Goose’s self-insert presents a very interesting case of sexual narcissism that is perhaps unsurprising for a MtF troon, except, again, it is odd that this was done with a male character rather than a female one. This makes me suspect that Goose himself falls more towards the HSTS (closet gay man) end of the MtF spectrum, but there are clear elements of AGP as well.

 

[Tom Arnold Schwarzenigger]

Still crazy that Zooble is supposed to be a reference to benny a handsome gay man that was forcibly turned into a hetro retarded ape with a giant dick

If they had balls [I know unlikely since they're trannies], they would have made Zooble's irl personality a heterosexual beauty model, or something, to inverse Benny.

And afaik Ragatha is supposed to be the Ellen except with regular abuse trauma instead of sexual, so really Jax is basically spiritually raping her every time he attacks her

Just like HowlingMutant

In the oh so 'innocent' years before the Internet in the 1950s-80s there were more then a few deviant child rapist/murders who when caught were legit found to have been owning Raggedy Ann dolls with the crotch ripped open and the inner stuffing literally cemented into an inverse cock shape by years upon years of semen shot into them since puberty.

I demand proof, you cannot just say shit this out of pocket and expect me to ignore it

 

[Nameless One]

Regardless of anyone's feelings about the whole series. I think the funniest thing to come out of this is everyone suddenly deciding to hate gooseworx. Not because she made bad product or anything, but because they have to come up with bizarre and retarded reasons to hate her. It is seriously hilarious that they need to jump hoops just to hate.

"She"
Lol. Lmao. It's a man called Cooper.

Sussy bakas. @Swagmaster69 @invisibult plus+

 

[Tom Arnold Schwarzenigger]

Which makes this next tweet something more hilarious in hindisght. Jax hates women, huh? What could this mean.

Not to be pedantic, but nooseworx specifically said Jax loves harming women. Different thing, more concerning honestly. Makes me think he might have violent fantasies.....

For fun, I'd like to make a SOMA mod where you can tell Sarah Lindwall if she lives, she can have the honor of joining your exclusive barbershop quartet. There'd be a 50% chance she says yes, and a 50% chance she asks you to unplug her faster. If she says yes, during the end credits, you hear two guys (Simon 2&3) and a girl (Sarah) sing in harmony "Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my ragtag gaaaaaaaaal."

That's just adorable

 

[Bob Barbas]

Could this possibly mean that this AGP tranny hates women and is a pedophile? What a shocker.

Ftfy
Though it would've been obvious with the Shadman mention.

Give an emotionally charged reason why she explores abandoned buildings. She was looking for something specific, something to do with her or her family... but what?

I remember very early on, one of the theories for how Pomni ended up in the circus was that she was an employee of C&A who just happened to put on the headset or something.
Funny how almost the complete opposite ended up being true.

I kinda figured the SOMA twist was gonna be the conclusion but vainly hoped the tranny wouldn't go that way but the ending is so much worse, it handwaves away pretty much everything. Even the abstracted. In a way it's almost laughably bad.

Unironically the plot could've been more interesting if they went the real humans route too. It could also easily give a motivation to some characters for how they ended up there. Maybe the only way to free them is inside the program somehow so they enter the simulation in an attempt to try and save them? Ect. There's so much they could have done that they didn't.

 

[invisibult plus+]

These are all excuses I’ve heard and seen countless times. I think the biggest thing holding people back is their unwillingness to put money where their passion is. Sure you could make a comic and have it be your exact vision, but you’ll have to pay for an artist or editor if you can’t draw to comic spec and many people don’t want to do that. Or they can draw well enough to even animate themselves but they don’t want to do it in their spare time while having a job. A lot of these people want to get paid for their idea and then have other people do the heavy lifting while they “lead” the project.

I've known so many fucking people like this in my time in cartoon/indie circles back in the day, jesus you hit the nail right in the head with that one. Everyone thinks they have the next "big idea," everyone thinks they're gonna be the next big guy, and they end up spending more time on stupid meme animations and trying to get into the pants of bigger creators instead of actually making anything of value. They all have this vision of "someday I'll do something when the time is just right!" But that day never comes, and it never will.

The timing never is just right.

If this debacle teaches anyone anything, it's that it's not enough to "just tell a story." You have to know what story you're telling, and if you're telling it for the right reasons. Most people that make meme animations, or he/they/zem OC bios, know deep down that they don't have anything to say. Whether you think it's a life experience issue is up to you. If Goose actually "interrogated his trauma" or whatever, if he actually planned it like he claims (instead of putting in a first draft without revising it apparently), there wouldn't be a billion posts breaking down how the so-called Happy Ending™ is real existential horror.

If nothing matters, why be happy? If nothing matters, why care? Why do anything at all? Why even put the effort into being a nihilistic gooner, let alone make a cartoon if "you just want to?" I don't even think he believes nothing matters. If he really did, he wouldn't even care enough to waste everyone's time to prove a point (contradicting himself from the start), and try to portray a stagnant life as meaningful when it clearly isn't. I know what I'd be if it turned out that I'm not even a real person, but a mangled mind clone who can only watch my real self truly live as I go through the motions and slowly decay.

I wouldn't be at peace. I wouldn't be happy. That's for sure.

 

[unholysedation777]

If Goose actually "interrogated his trauma" or whatever, if he actually planned it like he claims (instead of putting in a first draft without revising it apparently), there wouldn't be a billion posts breaking down how the so-called Happy Ending™ is real existential horror.

If it really was an interrogation and cleansing of his trauma he wouldn't still be a transgender freak, lmao. The fact he's still a tranny will mean the circus will never go free, at best they will be able to observe their ideal human selves while they continue to toil away in a digital hell for the rest of eternity as nothing more than fake imitations of the real things.

 

[Powerhouse of the Cell]

The story and ending of SOMA was about creating purpose and doing the right thing in the face of a hellscape of a life, so I thought letting the guy live to make his own decision of life or death fitting. Even if he chose death, it would be his decision to make.

To be fair, you are just playing Simon a few minutes after having been copied from his 1st body.

If the 2nd Simon decided to kill his previous self, it's like if the 1st Simon already decided to kill himself anyways, so maybe it doesn't outright count as making his decision for him.

Yeah, this really easily slides into a philosophical clusterfuck real fast, doesn't it?

 

[Powerhouse of the Cell]

I've recommended people play Spark the Electric Jester 3 to see this trope done right a fair amount of times. Spark died thousands of years ago, found out he's a digital copy, still sentient, conscious, and he eventually gets over it. He tried to kill himself at some point but he had a better friend than the dogshit characters written into this show, so he stopped being a pussy and didn't kill himself, and accepted that he's still the same guy as the guy that came before him. One guy wrote and made all 3 of those games, but Cooper needed how many people to fuck this one up?

Both living and dead, uploaded or not, a life matters, and TADC is just nihilistic edgelord bullshit that should have been cancelled before we saw how awful Goose is at concluding a story. Your parents give you life, God gives you meaning, you live, you die, that matters. If you get copied and find out the old version of you is the "real" one, you can still live meaningfully.

I'm gonna lay this out here for everyone.

When you have dreamless sleep or go under anesthesia, the self-awareness completely vanishes completely in the same way you die.
Whenever you have dreamless sleep or go under anesthesia, you are literally technically dying multiple times.

The perception of the continued self is just an illusion.
Memories are not literally stored in the way many people think it is, it is just your neurons reconstructing the electrical mapping of when you experienced the moment of your memory.

I have been under anesthesia multiple times in my life now.
So if we wanna be technical, as far as I know, my 1st iteration died a couple years ago when I went under anesthesia the first time, and what awoke after that was merely a copy that happened to have the same memories and personality as my first self who died.
And I have went under anesthesia a few more times in my life, so I technically a copy of a copy of a copy.

So yeah, I truly believe that this does already happen in real life.

I'm not the same Powerhouse of the Cell who lived his first couple of years of life uninterrupted (not counting the dreamless nights I don't remember having).
He died a couple years ago in a hospital when he underwent surgery, I am a completely different being who happens to have his exact same memories and personality.

Does this change anything? Tbh, no, since I am functionally living the same life as I have been living before and don't feel any different from before.
At the very least, my previous iterations died peacefully and probably wouldn't give too much of a shit about them not living on because I am considering that I don't give a shit.

Now if I woke up trapped in a simulated computer circus envisioned by a tranny being forced to hear the tranny's OC having sex with her other OCs or on a dying Earth where like 95% of humans are extinct, then that would be a different story.

So I guess it's more to do with the context than actually not being the same exact self as you were before.

 

[Mystery Spy]

don't even think he believes nothing matters. If he really did, he wouldn't even care enough to waste everyone's time to prove a point (contradicting himself from the start), and try to portray a stagnant life as meaningful when it clearly isn't.

There isn't any meaning in a stagnant life. But there is one in a humble one.

Playing with toys, and coping with playmates feels empty and wrong, specually as an ending, because it is empty and wrong.

A humble life doesn't mean becoming a famous multimillionaire. A mother that cares for her children, the Christian family that volunteers to help feed the needy, a dad that works a job he hates for his family etc, that's meaningful.

There's a very good reason Goose work used the word "stagnant" and not "humble". For him stagnant equals mediocre self indulgence. You could call it " positive nihilism"" but for a manchild it boils down to playing with toys.

If you think the message is bad for adults, just imagine how it will be for the kids. Luckily they will miss the message ,and just be bored and disappointed they got a therapy session instead of a fun adventure.

 

[The Un-Clit]

I demand proof, you cannot just say shit this out of pocket and expect me to ignore it

You will have to go to your local library for the proof. Everything I read pre-dates the Internet. This was read in some obscure-ass forensic psychology and abnormal psychology journals I read back in the dark ages of the 1980s that stuck in my mind like a burrowing maggot for all these years.

Just be ready to harden your heart. And stomach. You will read things that make stories of dicked out Raggedy-Ann dolls standing in for children look like a church encyclical.