The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

[Symbol of the Chud]

>deuteragonist
Fucking lol

More like Neuteragonist.
Because he wants to cut his cock off.
And is their pet by the end.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Honestly, I think the best way forward for Glitch, should they want to continue clussy as a "franchise", would be to do a prequel. Coop has often been accused of sidelining most of the cast in favor of his self-insert purple bunny rabbit, right? Well, here's a way to bring him back on board: just drop the pretense altogether and make Jax the star, and have the show take place between his arrival at the circus and Kaufmo's abstraction/Pomni's arrival. The scenes in his mind palace in episode 9 felt a lot like a backdoor pilot for a Jax-led prequel anyway, and I'm sure Glitch doesn't want those Ribbit and Kaufmo models they must have spent a fuckton to create and animate to go to waste.

Have it be a much more lighthearted, comedic, adventure-of-the-week kind of show so that you can keep it going indefinitely and you won't need to worry about building towards a greater overarching plot you'll have to end in a satisfactory way (honestly, this is probably what the main show should have been in the first place). But if you want to have the bigger and more serious stories (Jax and Ribbit falling out, Ribbit's abstraction, etc.), you can save that for the season premieres/finales and/or the super long and epic movies you might want to do. And for good measure, after it's been going for a while you can throw in some fanservice for people who liked the original series by bringing in Gangle and Zooble for Jax to bully the shit out of (hopefully not that kind of fanservice).

People here have speculated that Glitch has employees that monitor this thread. Well, if they are, I've just given them the ultimate infinite money glitch(teehee). You're welcome, guys.

That sounds terrible. Jax would be too meanspirited to be a protagonist of this kind of show and we already know his whole story so there is no real reason to do this.

Of they want to milk things just do a prequel about Kinger's group. Kinger is a well liked character and there is some intrigue there especially what happened between Caine and Scratch that was hinted in the escape episode. Not to mention, having a cast that presumably knows what's going on would allow us to explore and get to know the circus more.

 

[Helping Friendly Book]

My girl ribbit fucks like a frog, she bouncin' and hoppin' on it

I personally find it jarring how most of the NSFW art portrays her getting railed by Jax, the same fucking guy who, I could only guess, drove her to allegorical suicide.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

I personally find it jarring how most of the NSFW art portrays her getting railed by Jax, the same fucking guy who, I could only guess, drove her to allegorical suicide.

There are only so many male characters on the show. You got a pair of teeth, a bunny man, a chess piece, and a clown. Pick your poison, ladies!

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Should we stop treating Rorschach as the real hero in Watchman because Alan Moore says he meant that character to be a bad example despite being the most heroic character in the group for not compromising his principles.

I see where you're coming from, but the argument you're making is the same one leftists use for why the Hills Have Eyes is about Native Americans.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I personally find it jarring how most of the NSFW art portrays her getting railed by Jax, the same fucking guy who, I could only guess, drove her to allegorical suicide.

She was clearly his ex frog gf that he ditched once he told her about the mom killing

And then episode 9 clearly frames pomni as his clown gf and he die but then yeah outside shit ignores the pomni factor and attributes everything to jax retroactively to construct a new shibboleth to call back to for being good "trans allies".

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

I personally find it jarring how most of the NSFW art portrays her getting railed by Jax, the same fucking guy who, I could only guess, drove her to allegorical suicide.

Nooseworx confirmed it to be actual suicide, actually.
Which means that Kinger's wife is a selfish cunt who chose to kill herself to leave her husband in the zone of eternal solitude (as far as she would care) and misery...
After what? A few years?
Niggers.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Death of the Author, like most things, should be approached with care and only explored by people that aren't mentally ill.

 

[howtohatemyself]

I almost feel bad for GLITCH, they have a franchise that could potentially be their Sponge Bob money printer.

I would feel bad too, but not really because they're not exactly a hot commodity back home -- and they did it to themselves.

Without giving away too much, I'll just say I have many friends and connections in the Australian creative arts scene. And GLITCH are about as Australian as apple pie due to mistreating many local artists. Which is a huge no-no in the Australian creative arts. We're very much about supporting our small, but unique industry on the world stage -- helping your fellow Aussie creatives and all that. But since they've gone full global and pretending that Australia didn't get them where they are, support has started drying up. For instance, there was a LinkedIn ad about a year ago from GLITCH trying to find a head writer in Australia. For SMG4. They requested someone who could "speak Gen Alpha's language". No-one wanted anything to do with it and now that entire part of their production has been shelved. Not that the show was good quality, kek.

Anyway, from what I've been told (so, please, take it with a huge grain of salt), the brothers are just really fucking annoying to work with. Especially when you're local, because they can call you to come in on weekends and other crunch shit. Which in the industry is nothing new, but apparently other directors are at least sorry about it. Since GLITCH went more global, the pool of workers at their disposal went up several orders of magnitude. So they've stopped reaching out locally since last year's SMG4 advertisement.

Lastly, the NSW government did fund the pilot for TADC, but only up to $75,000 AUD (and in my experience with NSW creative arts fundraising there is a zero percent chance they even got close to a quarter of that amount). And, since GLITCH are no longer "upcoming new artists or groups" they cannot secure that funding again -- they have to apply for other funding programs which have a pool of $500,000 AUD split up between hundreds of other established creative projects/groups: opera, theatre, short film, TV shows. If anyone knows the show Mr Inbetween, that was also funded by the NSW government in the same way. It's a misnoma that the government funded TADC like it was a form of propaganda. It was just a middling creative arts grant.

tl;dr: GLITCH burnt bridges back home so things better go well for them in other places.

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

I feel like the trans Jax shit was made up after-the-fact, as one final discourse bomb to throw into the endless abyss that is the Amazing Digital Circus fandom to make sure this show is unbearable to talk about for the next 10 years. This shit was not conveyed clearly at all in the finale if it was genuinely intentional.

To me, it almost feels like Goose dumping gasoline all over his show and throwing a match at it before running away, and to be honest, I can't blame him.

 

[Neil]

I guess I don't see why the need for secrecy. This is your project you are allowed to do whatever you want with no oversight. Could have had the drill brain scene if you felt like it, what would people do? Cancel your show that is already over?

I mean I guess that would have involved pacing the writing better to explore the topic a bit more than just one yapped out paragraph, or maybe because it would have given people more time to dwell on how Jax is actually a huge warning against trans people. They will drive you to suicide, or kill you, and then kill themselves. They are fucking crazy and you are all better off when they die.

I mean, yeah I could see why you might want to gloss over that.

I still think Goose could have just directly addressed that in the story. This isn't like JK Rowling waiting for the sea change to say her School Headmaster likes it up the pooper. That was still controversial in the 90s for children's media.

Drill to brain is probably how abstraction happens. When you are depressed enough, the drill just appears, and as a GW character, you just know what you have to do.

That's why I don't think this whole trans Jax shit was pre-planned, the entire way Goose is going about things is the way Bryke went about "confirming" Korrasami via a Tumblr blogpost after the finale of the Legend of Korra. It was a last minute decision meant to ride on the back of the legalization of gay marriage via Obergefell, which successfully drove more attention to Korra after it suffered a rushed ending due to low ratings and corporate meddling.

Jax being just a tranny does ruin his character for me tho. Everything he did was because of his troonerism affecting him and close ones. This is the most transphobic character in recent media and it was written by a troon. Go figure.

It basically makes him a one dimensional character. Being trans basically overshadows every other motivation he could've possibly had for being a shithead. Now it all boils down to him having a prolonged troon crashout with the intention of harassing every single one of his friends into suicide because he wants to wear pretty dresses.

He iced out Ribbit not because he admitted to being a (potential) real life murderer to her and was desperate to keep that secret, no, he was mad about Ribbit putting her bow on his ear because something something transgender dysphoria.

According to another recent post by Gooseworx, the character Jax's real-life self in the show is a boymoder (closeted troon) who goes by Lee instead of his given name Leeroy.

Seems he is bent on clearing up any remaining debate about whether the character is a tranny.

I think it's pretty fucked up to cast an IRL male actor who isn't even the slightest bit transgender to play this character, this kind of shit feels like he's wishcasting upon the model for Jax (Izat Ishonov*) when he just looks like any other asian dude wearing plain clothes:

*Dude has an Kyrgyz surname, the majority religion in that region is Islam. I'm totally sure this guy is happy with the director of the show trying to imply he's a closeted tranny.

@Neil I think at least Shinji in End of Evangelion had by that point had more reasons than Jax to treat any offer of help or human connection as an attack on himself (like Shinji, in fact I think it might be an insult to Shinji to compare him to Jax. What is it with with shit media having some characters so bad it's the second time I had to write that it's an insult to compare him to said character? I'm not even a fan of him

Evangelion is every American kid's first 2deep4u anime. The problem with that is that Evangelion unironically is too deep for a lot of these people's comprehension.

This finale intentionally takes a lot from End of Evangelion, but not in the way most references to EoE are purely the apocalypse, everyone dies scene. A large chunk of End of Evangelion is a character study of Shinji, something that this final episode of TADC tries to do with Jax (34~ minutes of this 55 minute finale is about Jax, whereas EoE spends 20~ minutes out of 87 minutes dissecting Shinji).

It's very hard to sell a pathetic character. It's even harder to sell a pathetic character who's actively cruel and hostile as being a good guy/sympathetic character.

Shinji and Jax are both pathetic, irrational, deeply flawed individuals desperate to avoid the pain of being open, but unlike Jax, Shinji still tries to do the right thing, even when it actively hurts him. Which is why the people in the story give a shit about him beyond serving the plot (piloting the giant robot), there's still a good person deep down beneath all those flaws. Meanwhile, Jax gives off no signals of being a good person deep down.

The most sympathy-worthy thing Jax ever does is show momentary vulnerability before immediately covering it up by acts of cruelty. Shinji had many reasons to hate human beings. Jax never had a real reason to antagonize the other prisoners of the Circus.

Disclaimer: I have not watched Evangelion since I was a freshman in college several thousand years ago.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

I see where you're coming from, but the argument you're making is the same one leftists use for why the Hills Have Eyes is about Native Americans.

People are allowed to have retarded takes and I don't think Wes Craven felt the need to correct the record on what the meaning of the story was. What I am getting at is we need to fully embrace the death of the author. If the creator is getting mad that most people walk away with the wrong message, that is their fault as a writer and they shouldn't be allowed to retroactively try to fix that like they are posting fucking patch notes on social media. That is how you get retarded shit like wizards shit their robes magic the waste away, everyone in Star Trek bisexual, and Jax is a trans cuck.

 

[Helping Friendly Book]

Nooseworx confirmed it to be actual suicide, actually.

Holy shit, that has just made it a bit more horrible than it already was. I fucking hate fandoms.

 

[Bitchy Babylonian Barber]

Seeing how others shared their takes of rewritting plot of TADC, I wanted to share my take as well

Honest to god the fact a bunch of random Kiwitards can make a better plot than Troonworx, I almost wanna say someone could write a fanfiction that rewrites the whole premise and it'd be better than TADC's whole production.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Tbf, Vox did have the best songs of the season, even with the forced Trump allegories

It’s a Trump allegory that accidentally became a BLM/Antifa allegory.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

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Someone caught animation error and Gooseworx responded.

At least they had the humility to admit it.

By the way, why would anyone after the OG cast use a brainscanner or a headset? I can get maybe an urban explorer fiddling around with it, but there's got to be a number of warnings, hazard labels, or the fact it's a probably filled with spiders and bugs that'd make people less likely to put that on their head.

Just imagine Jax or Gangle's human counterpart accidentally putting on an old VR headset instead of their bicycle helmet.

I read some fan theory that C&A is recreating brainscan/backup for the family of the deceased...

So basically...

Saw a post similar to this on twitter about zooble "foreshadowing" so I thought I'd make it an Always Sunny punchline.
always sunny in digital circus.mp4

You'd think after the pilot, they'd at least set up a buddy system or check on each other every hour or so.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

People say GLITCH isn't indie because it took grant money, but I disagree. People constantly talk about using your enemies' tactics against them. Every big movie nowadays has a list of governments who contributed, and I'd most certainly take from the pot too if I had a relevant business. I'd be stupid not to do so.

The biggest hole I already brought up a few times is with the brain scan twist BS it makes their Ai development that led to caine who went rogue and hijacked/ made the circus VR game out of the idea program they were supposedly making redundant. Why the fuck try to make an ai with human level intelligence when you can just scan and get an ai clone of a human?

It's explained that the brain scans were impossibly small for what they were supposed to be. Caine is a Lisp program who has nothing but time to write code to write code to write code to write code to do things, and he eventually found a function that would perhaps fit. A major use for AI is writing functions we can imagine but don't know how to make for ourselves. All he really did, however, was wrap the literal outer layers of a scanned human mind around the NPCs he got good at creating. Most people wouldn't consider that to be a good immortality, looking into the machine, but Scratch is dead, so whatever.

coopy the thief

No, no, copy the thief.

Death of the Author, like most things, should be approached with care and only explored by people that aren't mentally ill.

What I am getting at is we need to fully embrace the death of the author.

I'm also fond of death to the authors, personally. Get a load of this: I've learned from this discourse that the original essay about this kind of interpretation was because a guy was mad at a castrated man being described as a woman.

For instance, there was a LinkedIn ad about a year ago from GLITCH trying to find a head writer in Australia. For SMG4. They requested someone who could "speak Gen Alpha's language". No-one wanted anything to do with it and now that entire part of their production has been shelved. Not that the show was good quality, kek.

I'd like to be a professional writer full-time, and it's great to see this can be my future if I get desperate enough, fuck.

*Dude has an Kyrgyz surname, the majority religion in that region is Islam. I'm totally sure this guy is happy with the director of the show trying to imply he's a closeted tranny.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Consider how many translations GLITCH has for its shows. I'd be a little pissed if I got retconned into voicing a tranny.

 

[Illuminal]

If the characters are unable to remove their clothes (Pomni's hat, Jax's overalls) then how did Ribbit remove her bow tie to put on Jax's ear?

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Maybe the real Amazing Digital Circus was the friends we made along the way

Quick note about Caine coming back. He may have been backed up to some protected area of the system as a failsafe, beyond the reach of even an admin. This isn't that farfetched, technology like that definitely exists, though it would have been exceptionally rare in the era these systems are supposedly from.

But since they didn't explain anything that actually mattered, I'm just speculating.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

If the characters are unable to remove their clothes (Pomni's hat, Jax's overalls) then how did Ribbit remove her bow tie to put on Jax's ear?

Because it allowed Cooper to cum, obviously.