The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

I wanna say viziepop
Vivziepop is a little bit worse than gooseworx too which is saying something. I dunno call me crazy but like I view "using newgrounds/youtube animators working on your shit only to throw them away once you get an amazon deal proving the one that called you out for only using others for publicity right" and "retconning/gaslighting superfans into acting like the comedy relief pervy rape owl was ackshually a wholesome chungus misunderstood gayboy the whole time" is on a level above "made a shitty ending and is into fucked up terminally online fetishes like turbo teen and killing yourself via drill to the side of the head"

Like it desn't stop the drilling yourself/turbo teen shit from being terrible but it's a kind of classic Internet unintentionally funny terrible rather than "traitorous snake scumfuck" terrible.

EDIT: Youtube recommended me a shitpost about the finale
 
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As in the kiwi farms thread. It wasn't a grandiose statement about franchises.
I know what you meant. I was saying there's fuck all to talk about. @Strangolapreti went into it with a bit more autism.

There is a comics thread that's active, but DC as a company. It's now The Batman Company. And there's fuck all to talk about other than maybe, maaaaybe the Absolute Batman series, but even that pales in comparison to manga. No apology for linking my favourite Nerdrotic clip again.
 
I took some time and watched the web series, as well as the leaked finale, and my feelings are mixed. I think that the concept, of being stuck in a digital "prison" and attempting to escape while dodging the obstacles that the computer program is throwing up at you, is a very cool one. I think that the characters, at least initially, were all generally compelling and hit the right notes for an ensemble cast. It could've theoretically gone on forever with the imitation of episodic television, with the "adventures" happening and some kind of plot arc being alluded to once in a while. Maybe I'm a goyslopped retard but I like this sort of thing, the whole "I'm trapped and how do I get out and what's really going on here?" It's a perfect set up for a story, with all the plot threads basically written for you, and I think someone will eventually come around and do the concept justice. But this is unfortunately not it.

Gooseworx, in my view, failed to really do anything with all of the potential in The Amazing Digital Circus. The interesting parts (What causes the abstractions? Where did everyone from? Why does the program exist at all? and those are just examples) were either unanswered or answered in a horrible manner. The characters are sort of reduced, over time, to one-bit support players for Pomni and Jax. The worst, in my view, is that the whole "sit-down-therapy-session" thing is extremely intolerable and it happens repeatedly. It worked, for instance, with Pomni and Kinger, but every other time it happened with any other character it felt tonally off and dissonant and just poorly written.

I'm not sure what the logic was in the finale. It is probably the most bizarre, discordant, and fake-pump finale in history. The big question all of the characters have been trying to solve ("What are we and how do we get out?") is given in a literal blink-and-you-miss scene and is basically accepted at face value and uninterrogated until the saccharine montage at the end. What makes it worse is that Pomni, the actual protagonist, is a backseat in the finale of the show to Jax, who is probably the least interesting and most insipid character in the show. Am I supposed to feel bad for him? All of it feels very pointless and not even given a tragic weight, considering everything he abstracted over would've been told to him in the compilation montage Caine whipped up for the final seconds.

Oh well. Maybe someone will make a more interesting story out of the concept.
 
It could've theoretically gone on forever with the imitation of episodic television, with the "adventures" happening and some kind of plot arc being alluded to once in a while. Maybe I'm a goyslopped retard but I like this sort of thing, the whole "I'm trapped and how do I get out and what's really going on here?" It's a perfect set up for a story, with all the plot threads basically written for you, and I think someone will eventually come around and do the concept justice. But this is unfortunately not it.
It really depends how far in advance the plot was outlined.

As we've seen in recent years, especially with Star Wars and the post-endgame MCU, that kind of storytelling, while fun, can be extremely frustrating. While I generally agree it could've gone on longer, given time to breath, fleshed out some more of the adventures, etc. If the option is either go on too long and wear out the audience, or finish as planned and leave the audience wanting more, the second option is preferable.

When was the last time that kind of story was done well? The Mentalist? Burn Notice? MCU pre-endgame? It's far easier to name shows and films that tried it and dropped the ball.
 
I wonder if glitch lets the creator have total rights or it’s 50/50
They're trying to sell themselves as the progressive creators-first company that's unlike those mean old big corpos that hate art. If they're lying, then it's only a matter of time before someone blows the whistle.
 
went into it with a bit more autism
Yeah I kinda let myself loose a little, apologies for my spergout on why a so-called giant of the comic industry has become more irrelevant than an "indie" show written by a troon with a lobotomy fetish and voiced by 3 lardballs.
As in the kiwi farms thread. It wasn't a grandiose statement about franchises.
Hey, at least I tried.
Oh well. Maybe someone will make a more interesting story out of the concept.
The issue is that digital circus is extremely derivative by itself, and the premise alone is fairly generic.
Its an hodgepodge of pre-existent stuff melded together in something that can only be mediocre at best, and even then glitch's execution ensured that multiple aspects wouldn't be developed well.

Just a couple of examples and comparison with extremely similar titles that totally weren't source material:
The little time spent inside the circus itself or the territory around it doesn't allow people to familiarize with it, and the place looks open and relatively pleasant rather than sterile, empty or liminal like Lyoko.
Then there's abstraction, it doesn't feels like a looming threat because either you know little to nothing about them (kafumo & the nigger queen) or know the people about to abstract deserves worse (jax). Even with such minimal appearances, they managed to fuck it up completely by giving the shame shape to both abstracted beast that appears on-screen. The idea of abstraction is a complete rip-off of witches from Madoka magica, difference being that you actually witness a character's personal downfall and how she goes from optimistic and selfless to a fucking wretch, all in a series that is 10 episodes long and, furthermore, witches have distinguished designs that makes each one of them memorable, while abstracted are just a big eye-horse, I'm not demanding the "small indie studio" to make each abstraction look completely different, but at the very least, they should make those eye blobs take different shapes.
 
Man that ending sucked. They needed to make that shit 3 episodes to get the pacing right, but instead they shoved it all into one. Everything is rushed. but Jax being a version of gooseworx that never transitioned and then killed themselves is kinda interesting I guess even if it is eye roll worthy.

Stupid gorilla face'd trans nigga couldn't write anything other than "what if I stayed a boy lol I'd kill myself lol"
 
Man that ending sucked. They needed to make that shit 3 episodes to get the pacing right, but instead they shoved it all into one.
I was wondering why they did that, instead of milking the series some more before the finale.
Just how rushed the movie was, that it had to be padded out with episode 8 ?
What was the point of Zach Hadel fish telling the audience "You really should've watched the series before coming to watch the finale", if you're going to do a recap anyway ?
 
The response to Fortnite Pomni has been fascinating and concerning

Me Too and the feminist takeover of media has made it verboten to find actual women sexy, so zoomers and gen alpha are treating adult proportioned Pomni as the sexiest thing they've ever seen because it's close to, but not actually, a regular woman.

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Look at them legs.
 
I took some time and watched the web series, as well as the leaked finale, and my feelings are mixed. I think that the concept
The idea of adults being trapped in a baby game and treated like children is incredibly pertinent to the infantilism of our modern culture, especially with fiction. Unfortunately they don't do anything with this and, ironically, the show is one of the biggest examples of an infantalised baby show designed for adults I've ever seen.
 
Then there's abstraction, it doesn't feels like a looming threat because either you know little to nothing about them (kafumo & the nigger queen) or know the people about to abstract deserves worse (jax).
It's not a looming threat because it just happens when the story calls for it. It isn't like there are signs or symptoms other characters can pick up on and show the audiance that EVERYBODY is basically on thin ice and one bad day away from abstracting. Even though most of the cast is miserable and are constantly bullied by Jax they seem to continue no problem.

There is also no sense of urgency or attrition. Between Kinger's group and Jax's two friends there have been around half a dozen abstractions total. There couldn't be more unaccounted for because new arrivals are very rare. So Kinger's group abstracted between 1999 to 2008 (when Ragatha arrives) then two more abstract between 2008-2017 (when Pomni arrives) which means we have an average abstraction rate of three to four years which is a pretty long gap for a threat. It also isn't guaranteed to happen because Kinger and Ragatha are old timers and after decades they don't seem close to abstracting, eccentric sure, but with what little we know about abstracting they they seem safe. So how is abstracting an active danger?

Also why the fuck do they have a formal funeral and act like it is routine when most of the cast would have seen only one example of abstracting AT MOST! They should be confused about it unless Caine told them everything.
 
I was wondering why they did that, instead of milking the series some more before the finale.
Just how rushed the movie was, that it had to be padded out with episode 8 ?
What was the point of Zach Hadel fish telling the audience "You really should've watched the series before coming to watch the finale", if you're going to do a recap anyway ?
It was rushed enough that the episode wasn't even finished being made until after they got the movie theater deals lined up supposedly going by the whole south korea drama and the slight visual oddities in the leaked brazil dub one. However that's more tied to episode 9 and not episode 8 being included to pad out the runtime which was always the plan from the start, making the inconsistencies with the stakes setup by the end of 8 even more infuriating.
 
Vivziepop is a little bit worse than gooseworx too which is saying something. I dunno call me crazy but like I view "using newgrounds/youtube animators working on your shit only to throw them away once you get an amazon deal proving the one that called you out for only using others for publicity right" and "retconning/gaslighting superfans into acting like the comedy relief pervy rape owl was ackshually a wholesome chungus misunderstood gayboy the whole time" is on a level above "made a shitty ending and is into fucked up terminally online fetishes like turbo teen and killing yourself via drill to the side of the head"

Like it desn't stop the drilling yourself/turbo teen shit from being terrible but it's a kind of classic Internet unintentionally funny terrible rather than "traitorous snake scumfuck" terrible.

EDIT: Youtube recommended me a shitpost about the finale
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Sz3_5dQXNOA
Gooseworx is deliberately grooming kids by inserting his fetish shit into the cartoons

Unless vivzie is doing that, she isn't as bad
 
I'm not sure what the logic was in the finale. It is probably the most bizarre, discordant, and fake-pump finale in history.
I have two theories.
A.) Goose was a chronic procrastinator in school and it's carried over into anything that isn't a 5 minute lolrandom animation

B.) Goose genuinely believes everyone is fragile as he is and think watching his pretroon self kill himself is as tragic as he thinks it is (ie "I'll kms and it'll be all your fault") hopped up on the troon delusion people would be sad instead of throwing a party in relief that the insufferable dickhead finally killed himself.
 
Would this get an encore showing in theatres? While I am technically getting the better deal with seeing the finale for free in YouTube, that would not feel the same.
Then again, the popularity of thi series would make an encore showing likely, though that may be the :optimistic: Optimism showing.
 

I hope that, no matter how the perception of TADC's quality changes over the time, Jax never stops being a racist icon who loves saying nigger, which is honestly a much better legacy than being a suicidal troon.

The irony is that this is still less racist than michael kovach's "rap" where he says "yo nigga yo nigga nigga yo yo yo" over and over.
 
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