Disaster Tesla proposes $1 Trillion Pay Package for Elon Musk - *Or enough money to pay for 100,000,000 "kung-fu" lessons with Ghislaine Maxwell

*Assuming the allegations are true and also assuming such a visit with Ghislaine Maxwell and a trafficked Asian boy cost $10,000 per visit. #

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Tesla proposes Elon Musk pay package that could make him the world’s first trillionaire​


Elon Musk, already the world’s richest person, could become the first trillionaire after the Tesla board unveiled a massive new pay package for its CEO to keep his focus on the troubled EV maker.

The package would grant him additional shares of Tesla stock if the company is able to grow far beyond its current value, with a market capitalization far greater than any company has ever approached. Musk’s previous pay package, which added significantly to his massive wealth, also laid out ambitious growth plans that once appeared to be a reach – but which Tesla proved able to reach easily.

The new pay package could grant Musk 423.7 million additional shares of Tesla stock. Those shares would be be worth $143.5 billion at today’s stock value.

But Musk would get those shares only if the value of Tesla stock increases significantly in coming years. The company stock would need to reach an overall value of $8.5 trillion for Musk to get all the shares, significantly above the current market capitalization of $1.1 trillion

Those 423.7 million new shares that Musk would get under this package would be worth close to $1 trillion should the company hit the increased valuation targets spelled out in Friday’s proxy statement.

If Tesla shares are able to reach the $8.5 billion market capitalization value, it could become the most valuable company ever. It would be worth roughly double the current market value of Nvidia (NVDA), the current most-valuable company on the market. Tesla is already the most valuable automaker by a large margin, even though legacy automakers, like second-most valuable automaker Toyota, sell far more vehicles and now make more profits.
 
It's pretty much just a car company.
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Yea it remains to be seen if the company can transition without a breakup. Musk has been dumping money into R&D for batteries which wont show up as earnings obviously. But I feel there is still potential. More so than say Ford, which is basically a car and car accesories company.
 
The controversies with Musk getting paid from Tesla, which had one of the best stock runs of all time last decade, always looks like people who didn't buy cheap shares in the past seething about it today, seeing everything they missed out on, hoping it all goes kaput so that in a bizarre way they will seem justified in reverse. And Musk himself makes a lot of idiotic public comments, which really fuels their anger and derangement — how can such a dumb guy be doing so much better than me?
 
Musk has been dumping money into R&D for batteries which wont show up as earnings obviously.

Tesla cars have Panasonic batteries in them. The latest version of Powerwall has LG batteries in it. Tesla has very few battery patents and makes no batteries. The Tesla battery is, like the Dojo superchip, vaporware. I don't think Musk has even been pretending he could turn Tesla into a battery company for 10-15 years now.

But I feel there is still potential. More so than say Ford, which is basically a car and car accesories company.

You know what other company has more potential than Ford to make money selling something other than cars? Literally every other company on the planet that isn't a car company. Unfortunately for Tesla, it's spent the last 20 years developing all its core capabilities in the automotive industry, where it is still meandering around a 1.5% market share.
 
Tesla isn't just a car company though. It's also a battery, solar, and robotics company. In the near future I think the battery part of the company will outpace the EV market. There is always going to be a market for energy storage.
The market for mass energy storage is just as much of a government-propped up bubble as the EV market is.

Nuclear/fossil/hydro/etc. power plants can produce at any time and don't need massive batteries to try to paper over their intermittency.
 
with the way shits going its fairly fucking obvious that tesla doesn't have that much longer. YoY drop of 13% in q2. for the first half of the year for the entire EV market, there has been only a 1.5% growth and with the EV credit gone there is even less reason to buy an EV

tesla already lost its monopoly on EVs and now lost its majority market share, unless musk knows the dollar will go Latin America tier inflation very soon, the only way its hitting $9 trillion is if they've been working on fusion in secret. can't wait for Jensen to take his title for richest person alive.

the cybertruck fucking failed, and they don't have anything worth caring about on the horizon. these robots will be like the cyber taxi and be a complete waste of time. i have a very strong feeling Tesla's insane evaluation will correct itself before the end of the decade. no way in hell its the top selling car company of EVs by 2030, Musk had a massive advantage and squandered it.
 
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Even if you think Tesla is doing great(which it isn't) and Elon somehow deserves the money. The company is heading for uncertain and difficult times and they need someone who is more interested in running the fucking company instead of larping as a political visionary and tech God online.
 
Tesla already needs to ~20x its sales numbers to justify its current stock valuation. Maybe Musk can convince the market that glitchy robots with fragile fingers will replace all human labor throughout the planet, though, after all, he convinced everyone that robotaxis would be a hundred-billion-dollar business.
In fairness it would be a massive business if you could get the operating costs right and could battle taxi authorities successfully. I for one am on team robot car vs team stinking pajeet who cannot understand a fucking word I am saying and drives me to the wrong address or Uber.
 
Tesla isn't just a car company though. It's also a battery, solar, and robotics company. In the near future I think the battery part of the company will outpace the EV market. There is always going to be a market for energy storage.

Everyone has been wanting better batteries for forever. There will always be a huge need for them.
 
Everyone has been wanting better batteries for forever. There will always be a huge need for them.
Sodium ion batteries are going to be a thing real soon. They're supposed to be about 70% of the energy density of lithium ion, but at 1/10th the price per kwh and no risk of blowing up on you. If Tesla can scoop CATL and start putting those out, I'd sign up..
 
tesla already lost its monopoly on EVs
It never had one....there were EV offerings from other makers including established car makers long before he started Tesla.

It did have a monopoly in the consumer mind on "cool" EVs..... but that in and of itself? Was only ever a market for people who could make "vanity" car purchases that doubled as political virtue signals instead of practical ones because they needed an affordable and reliable car today.

EVs were never anything but that, a "gimmick". They aren't superior to conventional ICE cars in any way except as personal accessories showing "I'm on the RIGHT side of history!"

EV subsidiaries/bonuses brought it down a little bit into upper-middle class.... but it was never sustainable. Those incentives were always going to run out just like the 2010's sensibilities that made owning one hip in the first place.

Everyone who wanted one and could afford one got one years ago, the market just can't grow beyond where it is right now because its saturated.
 
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the cybertruck fucking failed, and they don't have anything worth caring about on the horizon.
Remember in 2017, when Tesla offered you a free Roadster 2 for every 55 confirmed referrals, and the program was so successful that they decided to just never ever ever ever make a Roadster 2?
 
Speaking of that?

I remember all the Tesla fanboys going around the internet and finding every "Top 10 this-or-that cars" list and adding the roadster to the list based only on paper-based stats.

It was simultaneously the fastest, quickest accelerating and best handling production car in the world..... based on what Elon said it could do.... and pointing out it hadn't even been built yet made you a "hater".
 
In fairness it would be a massive business if you could get the operating costs right and could battle taxi authorities successfully. I for one am on team robot car vs team stinking pajeet who cannot understand a fucking word I am saying and drives me to the wrong address or Uber.

And if you could make totally self-driving cars actually safe. They aren't right now and Elon's bet that stereooptical camera's could be as effective as human eyes, which have evolved over millions of years to become so sensitive they can detect subtle differences in colors (which is a trait not shared across every member of the species,) was a stupid bet. Lidar is used by everyone else for a reason.

Don't expect wild implementation of self-driving anytime soon. Its got a lot farther to go still.

Sodium ion batteries are going to be a thing real soon. They're supposed to be about 70% of the energy density of lithium ion, but at 1/10th the price per kwh and no risk of blowing up on you. If Tesla can scoop CATL and start putting those out, I'd sign up..

As are solid state batteries and nuclear fusion. Better to wait until its not only being manufactured but reaches levels were the average consumer can afford it. None of this stuff is there yet. Hell, a sodium ion battery plant that was opened in 2024 is shutting down next month because theres no customers.


Everyone has been wanting better batteries for forever. There will always be a huge need for them.

Its been an ongoing process since the invention of the galvonic cell. Most people don't know that the first 50 years of messing with electricity was all by chemical reaction (the mechanical generator hadn't been developed yet.) Telegraphy and metal plating were the 2 big industries and they both operated on batteries for decades. Those telegraphs being used in the civil war, they were battery powered (usually with "crows feet" style batteries that were a copper sulphate solution with a zinc cathode shaped like a crows foot.)

Battery development isn't some new thing Elon is financing. Its never stop since the first pile. Don't expect revolutionary developments in your lifetime. Its a slow process of 3% gains every few years compounding--if we're lucky.
 
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