UN Tasmanian tiger declared extinct 80 years ago ‘spotted’ eight times

Eight reported sightings of a creature believed to be extinct are forcing experts to wonder whether it could still be alive.

The Tasmanian tiger, a large striped marsupial carnivore with almost Loch Ness Monster status Down Under, was thought to have died out in 1936, when the last one known died in captivity.

But newly released Australian government documents show sightings have been reported as recently as two months ago.

The species, officially called a thylacine, resembled a cross between a large cat, a fox and a wolf. It had yellowish brown fur, powerful jaws and a pouch for its young like a kangaroo.

Among eight sightings in the past three years was one from a couple from Western Australia visiting the island of Tasmania in February, who said they saw one of the creatures crossing the road.
The animal “turned and looked at the vehicle a couple of times” and “was in clear view for 12-15 seconds,” the report read. Both people in the car “are 100 per cent certain that the animal they saw was a thylacine.”


It had stripes down its back, the report read.

Another report the same month described a striped “cat-like creature” moving through the mist in the distance, CNN reported.

“I am accustomed to coming across most animals working on rural farms ... and I have never come across an animal anything close to what I saw in Tasmania that day,” the witness said.

In 2017, another driver reported seeing a possible thylacine near in northwestern Tasmania. He “seemed certain that if it was a cat it was a bloody big one,” the report said.

Most recently, in July, a man in southern Tasmania, near the state capital of Hobart, reported seeing a footprint that seemed to match that of the Tasmanian tiger.

Native to both Tasmania and the Australian mainland, it was the only member of the Thylacinidae family to survive into modern times, according to the Australian Museum.

European colonists in the 19th century killed thousands of thylacines for attacking sheep.

What was thought to be the last one of its kind died in Hobart Zoo in 1936, although there have been regular claims of unsubstantiated sightings, giving the animal an almost mythical status in Tasmanian culture.

Tasmania’s Department of Primary Industries, Parks, Water and Environment released the document detailing the eight reported sightings.

In 2002, scientists at the Australian Museum replicated thylacine DNA, opening the door to potentially reviving the species with cloning technology.

 
Do we even have some of their DNA to do something like that?

There are a lot of museum specimens, you can collect DNA from. If you manage to hack together a survivable embryo, there would be the question which species of dove might be the closest relative as a surrogate parent. And would the clone really be the same, lacking in the distinct way passenger pigeons did live and breed?

Those same questions go also in the direction of thylacines, whose surviving next relatives are Tasmanian Devils, who are distinctly smaller with a different behaviour.
 
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Why not clone something easy like a passenger pigeon?
Do we even have some of their DNA to do something like that?
we do still have feathers and bones i believe, in theory we should be able to get DNA out of those.

The problem here would be that the ecosystem has already adapted and moved on to survive without these animals that are now extinct. Also, which ones we're bringing back? All of them? Even those who are a direct danger to other species that proliferated after that one disappeared? Personally, my requirement to bring back an animal would be if such species disappeared due to direct human intervention, as in we hunted them all until they died.

Thing is, animals adapt and they're adapting to us. When people say "oh, noe, there are bears in cities now!", they see it as a negative sign, but I remember someone mentioned this means the bear is learning to live along humans so they can survive and not being a threat for us as well we wouldn't be one for them.

Extinction is the same case as global warming and climate change. There is so much hysteria and misinformation and feelings override logic. People always talk about the animals that went extinct (because of us, always, it's always us... of course) but barely ever mentioned the new species we discover.

 
Why not clone something easy like a passenger pigeon?

The passenger pigeon was considered a pest once we started industrializing (kind of like actual pigeons these days) and didn't have to rely on hunting animals for food, although farmers also didn't like them being around. This is why it was hunted to extinction, but it was definitely careless because "It's useless, we don't need those rats with wings no more!" So if we clone it, we'd have to keep its population under control (they want to use the return as a way to fix the eastern woodlands, so there's a form of population control it sounds like). Should it ever migrate further across America and there's population booms in the great plains, it might make for good game for hunters or could help with locusts--wouldn't that be great? Seems like there's never enough locusts being eaten. Some American Indian tribes might be pleased to see its return, but outside of that, I honestly don't know if there's really much of a use for the passenger pigeon anymore in this day in age other than to prove that we can clone extinct animals back to life.

But it looks like, unfortunately, a lot of the passenger pigeon specimens weren't too well-preserved, so the DNA will need to be spliced with other species. We'll never-ever-ever get pure-blood extinct animals brought back, which I'm sure everyone has come to terms with, but who knows what the resulting hybridization will do to them.
 

Oh, to address this video, the guy says: "It's a pigeon--what's the worst that can happen?"

Disease. The passenger pigeon was (in)famous for having dense flocks. Well imagine that happening in big cities (and you don't hear much about actual pigeons having such big flocks--happens, but there's a reason their population is to be kept under control). What if these pigeons end up carrying parasites to-and-fro that other birds haven't been doing? And when they leave their droppings everywhere, whatever is in their waste may become just as toxic as that which is akin to actual pigeon poop when left unattended to.

Who the hell knows what a passenger pigeon will carry today, especially thanks to shithole cities bringing back disease and superbugs. They didn't study the passenger pigeon for that back then, so if the superbugs don't kill them, they could bring in a mutated strain. Bird flu is a problem in other countries, do we really want that here just by introducing a long-dead species that hasn't adapted to modern times?
 
100% of Australians have a mobile phone with a high res camera built in. No photos? Never happened.

We have a massive feral cat problem here so without clear photos, reports of a "cat-like creature" should probably be considered likely to be a feral cat. They can get pretty big, too.


In Tasmania you tend to get reports of "thylacines" being spotted. In Victoria it tends to be "pumas" or "cougars".
 
We have a massive feral cat problem here so without clear photos, reports of a "cat-like creature" should probably be considered likely to be a feral cat. They can get pretty big, too.


In Tasmania you tend to get reports of "thylacines" being spotted. In Victoria it tends to be "pumas" or "cougars".


the Puma in victoria gets a go every couple of months when some bloke gets pissed out in the country and sees a feral cat.

my favorite part was always their explanation for where the fuck a puma came from, which was it was brought over as a mascot for us forces stationed in Australia in WW2

average lifepan of a puma is 8-13 years.
 
Remind me again. Why don’t we clone animals like this?

Animal rights groups and it is expensive. If you spend millions cloning it you will not see that money again. Also cloned animals tend to have defects and live for less time than the original
 
Eight sightings in the last three years, in the age when everyone has a camera ready, not one single picture.

Why not clone something easy like a passenger pigeon?
They won't survive for long. It is believed they need to be in huge aggregates to stimulate their breeding instinct.

The problem here would be that the ecosystem has already adapted and moved on to survive without these animals that are now extinct.
This too.
 
I refuse to believe neither of them had a phone within arm's reach. They're either full of shit or it's another case of boomer dementia.


Not only that but also

i cannot even begin to comprehend how much the Tasmanian state government, let alone the news outlets and even the federal government would pay you for proof that tasmanian tigers are still trundling around in the wilds

youd probably be able to declare yourself king of tasmania
 
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